Linux-Misc Digest #808, Volume #18               Fri, 29 Jan 99 09:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Anahata)
  Help with Creative PCI64 soundcard please? (Richard Taylor)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Edmund)
  Re: How can i use this (Alex Harford)
  Re: Uninstalling a tarball application? (John Forkosh)
  Can anyone help me with this problem? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Socks compliant? (Steve Terrell)
  Re: Are we there yet? 2.2.0 When? ("Michael.Creasy")
  Re: Inspired by Red Hat Labs ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")
  Undefined symbol Apache jserv (Robert Lynch)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Richard Walker)
  Re: Mouse Autoraise in Red Hat (John Strange)
  Re: Unable to mount cdrom (Tim)
  [Fwd: delay in execution of programs-Xfree & Netscape] (Mark Hamlin)
  Re: Newbie Question (Merman)
  Re: encrypted file system (Martin Dickopp)
  Fat 32 logical drives problem. (Stimpy)
  printing from slackware -> nt hp lj III (Ryan Speed)
  Re: Looking for software on the Net (Stewart Honsberger)
  Error compiling Apache 1.3.4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrea Cerrito))
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Mark Ramos)

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From: Anahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:51:52 +0000

Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>But the average user never uses the OS as such - they interface solely
>with their applications on a correctly set up system. Millions of people
>used DOS in this way and found it perfect for their needs at the time.
>
True.  Including having to run Word Perfect (in one case I know) or
Lotus 123 (in another) in order to do simple operations like copy or
delete a file, because that's the only way they knew how to do it.

Anahata

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Help with Creative PCI64 soundcard please?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:57:52 GMT

I bought the useless darn thing at the local shop owner's
recomendation - he's usually pretty good, but a complete Windoze head
and as such completely oblivious to concerns like "Does it work in
Linux?" 

The problem is, I believe it to be the soundcard equivalent of the
WinModems - dependant upon features of the Windoze OS to work!
Please folks - I'm begging for someone to tell me that I'm wrong? 
I mean, the thing even needs a TSR program to work under DOS, so it's
doubtfull to me if it'll work, but if it don't, that's �70 down the
swanney. 

Richard

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From: Edmund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:20:37 GMT



Christopher Browne wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:14:38 -0600, Keith G. Murphy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Julian T. J. Midgley wrote:
> >>
> >>  Microsoft buys Hotmail, says "ha, we don't want any of this poxy Unix
> >>  stuff here", replaces all the servers with NT servers, and discovers
> >>  very rapidly that NT can't cope with the load.  Equally rapidly, they
> >>  discover they haven't a chance in hell of fixing NT so that it can
> >>  cope with the load in time, so restore the old Linux [IIRC- may have
> >>  been some other brand of Unix] servers, which chug along merrily
> >>  wondering what on earth it was that NT was finding difficult about
> >>  all this.
> >>
> >Apparently, they're running FreeBSD.  See http://www.netcraft.com.
>
> The front end servers are running FreeBSD.  Apparently the data, behind
> the scenes, where you can't see it, is being stored on Solaris/SPARC
> boxes.
>
> And it is *not* evident that they started a project to replace
> Solaris/FreeBSD with NT; while it's obvious that MSFT would be quite
> happy to have Hotmail as an example of 'NT superiority' (rather than as
> a public example of NT inadequacy), there is a distinct *lack* of
> substantiation for claims that they actually installed NT at Hotmail for
> mail management.
>
> Lots of wild claims, certainly.  Anything that I'd trust?  Not.

Here's the URL of the article.  You can find it at VNU's website using their
search engine, but there is no real way to link to it so this is a copy.

http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/hotmail.html

Next time maybe you should do some research before you post.

C'ya




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:56:47 -0800
From: Alex Harford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: How can i use this

Wael Sedky wrote:
> 
> OK, this boring stuff is my ppp. As u can guess it uses chap. How can i use
> this to connect to the internet with my slackware 3.6?
> Any suggestions? Please please don't tell me to read the how-to again. I've
> done that already 4 times and didn't find anything that helps.
> I tried to use ezppp, but apparently i have 2 be able to logon manually
> first and this is just to make things easier.
> 
> Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Have you used the pppsetup command as root?  It should take you through
all the steps.  The howto's are good, but not always Slackware specific
:(

 
======================================================================
Alex Harford                            Alcohol and calculus don't mix.
http://www.dowco.com/~alexh             Don't drink and derive.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: Uninstalling a tarball application?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 06:28:27 -0500

jdn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
snip
: Anyway, suppose I've come to my senses and decide to get rid of some of
: these applications to free up disk space.  Obviously, with
: RedHat, you just uninstall the RPM.  Is there anything similar with tar.gz
: installs?

You might try Slackware's removepkg utility (which you may have to
install if you're not using slackware).  First, you'll need a
directory /var/adm/packages, and then do
     tar -tzvf tarball.tar.gz > /var/adm/packages/tarball
which will produce a listing of all files in the original tarball.tar.gz
in a file called /var/adm/packages/tarball.
     Now you can run removepkg, which munges through that list and
removes the files.  But it also checks all other installed packages,
as prescribed by _other_ files in /var/adm/packages, so that it doesn't
remove files or directories used by other packages.  Since you haven't
generated these files for your other packages, it's a bit dangerous.
You may want to first manually double-check the list to make sure
that removing all the files will be okay.
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can anyone help me with this problem?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:46:53 GMT


I'm having various problems with installing a couple of programs,
and I can't seem to figure out why.  I'm using Caldera OpenLinux 1.3

I am attempting to upgrade the GTK toolkit with 1.1.13.  I installed
the new libs, but when i go to configure GTK, it complains that the
test failed.  If I run glib-config --version, it reports 1.1.9.  I've
made sure that /usr/local/lib is in both ld.so.conf AND LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
It still cannot find it.

In a seperate project, I was attempting to install the rpm for the new
wine package.  It complains about requiring certain libraries.  I installed
the new glibc package [1] and verified that the libraries ARE present (in
/usr/local/lib, for the most part), and yet it still refused to find them.

If anyone can shed some light on where I'm going astray, I'd greatly
appreciate it.  I'm very familiar with Solaris, but Linux is a different
beast. <g>

Rob

[1] Speaking of that, glibc's configuaration complained about wanting
    the crypt and linuxthreads packages.  I downloaded them, but cannot
    figure out how to get them installed.  Hrm, that makes three things
    I'm confused about.

-- 
Rob Wynne / The Autographed Cat / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The best original science-fiction and fantasy on the web:
        Aphelion Webzine:  http://www.aphelion-webzine.com/

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From: Steve Terrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Socks compliant?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:03:18 -0500

Does anyone know if there is a Linux program like windows sockscap or
Hummingbird that will make any winsock program socks 4 and 5 compliant
for use with a socks proxy? 
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From: "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are we there yet? 2.2.0 When?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:04:43 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which he did...

Which is why we now have 2.2.1 :)

David Bubar wrote:
> 
> grinder wrote:
> >
> > I'm fairly new to linux, 8 months or so experience. I've tried some of
> > the dev kernels and they seem to work great (except for a vm quirk or
> > two) especially the 2.2.0pre version.
> >         Is there a naming custom for pre versions that indicates how close the
> > release version might be?
> >         Anyone know how soon 2.2.0 not pre might appear?
> 
> Today.... barring anything so embarrasing that linus would have to hide
> his face in a paper bag for a month.
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> David Bubar     http://www.albany.net/~bubar    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LTI             http://www.ltionline.com        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inspired by Red Hat Labs
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:03:25 -0600

http://computers.iwz.com/linux is my own little contribution, stolen from a
friend's little contribution ;p as far as books, running linux and linux in
a nutshell are widely praised, nutshell is kind of a command reference,
running is more of a tutorial, there are hundreds of other books, if you
have a barnes & noble near you just go in there and sit at one of the little
table for a couple hours and look at a few books just to see what they are
like and then decide which one(s) you want
-Justin

--
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Internet/Developer Relations Associate
Pacific HiTech / TurboLinux
http://www.turbolinux.com/
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Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I started reading http://www.labs.redhat.com/ which talks about Red
> Hat's attempt to create a more user friendly interface to Linux and all
> the other jazz associated with it which is detailed on their page.  It
> got me wondering, is there a web page out there which actually makes the
> assumption that the user knows nothing about Linux or Unix and is simply
> just interested in it and wants to install it and set it up and start
> using it for this, that and the other?  A web sit which explains it in
> simple, easy terms?  A site which deosn't make the assumption that you
> know your 'chown' from your 'make bzImage'? :-)  I used to use Solaris
> in my Uni days 4-5 years ago so when I installed Linux it wasn't such an
> immense mine field for me, however, there are many many things which I'm
> still confused with and would dearly love these things explained in a
> straight forward easy to understand way.   Any useful suggestions
> anyone?  Finally, I guess the good old rainforest mucher is probably the
> best place to search for such info, so any good suggestions on books for
> total Linux newbie's?  Many thanks...
>
> Kozzey



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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:12:59 -0800
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Undefined symbol Apache jserv

Hiya-

I'm attempting to use the jserv module with Apache 1.3.3.  I have read
the somewhat scattered docs, and I believe I have DSO support in the
server.

I use apxs to build mod_jserv.so with Apache-JServ-1.0b1:

apxs -c mod_jserv.c
apxs -i -a -n jserv mod_jserv.so

the module builds and /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf is altered to load it.

But, after stopping, then re-starting the server, I get an error msg.:

[root@ravel init.d]# ./httpd start
Starting httpd: httpd Syntax error on line 69 of
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:
Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_jserv.so into server:
/etc/httpd/modules/mod_jserv.so: undefined symbol: jserv_error_exit

I looked through the header files, and jserv.h defines this:
----
...
/* Logs an error to Apache JServ log file, apache log file or stderr */
void jserv_error_exit(const char *file, int line, int level,
jserv_config *cfg,
                 const char *fmt, ...);
...
----

I am willing to be told to RTFM, just point me to it if it exists, I
have searched for how to fix this for a while with no joy.

TIA.

Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Walker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:56:03 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>
>> In <78o1sr$plb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger) writes:
>> So stick in a video card. It;s 10$. you do not need a monitor or
>> keyboard(depending on the BIOS, you can set them to ignore errors on
>
>The point is not the money spent on a $10 video card.  But it kind of looks
>funny in an environment that, say are all Sun boxes and none of them have
>keyboards/mice dangling and can be built/configured, etc. without any special
>"work-arounds".   Now we have this lowly PC that is the only one with a video
>card.  Why? because it will beep at you when you take it out.  And why is this
>the only system with a keyboard?  Well because when you turn it on without a
>keyboard it asks you to press "F1 to continue".  Hmm.  Well can I stick a
>console to it and bypass that?  nope.  Maybe stick that $10 video card in there
>temporarily to press F1 then take it out!  Doesn't sound like a good solution
>to me does it?

You aren't listening.  You do *NOT* need to have a keyboard or monitor 
attached to a linux PC in order for it to boot.  I have neither monitor, nor 
keyboard attached to mine.  I telnet/xterm into the linux when I need its 
applications or when I want to reconfigure it.

The only thing you need a monitor and keyboard for is at the point of initial 
installation.    Just leave the stupid video card in the machine.  Its not 
hurting anything, it isn't worth anything, and it doesn't even usually eat an 
IRQ.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Strange)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Mouse Autoraise in Red Hat
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:14:52 GMT

The problem is in Red Hat 5.2 also.  My fix was in one of the following:
 /etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.defines.m4    (autoraise)
 /etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.modules.m4    (auto hide taskbar)


Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: "Vivek Shanmuganathan (95410006-BS)" wrote:
: > 
: > Hello,
: > 
: > I have installed redhat linux 5.1
: > 
: > I have also loaded X Windows (fvwm). But, I have not been able to enable the
: > window-autoraise option from the menu items one gets by clicking the right
: > mouse button and choosing  Preferences/Autoraise.
: > 
: > I have even treid restarting fvwm. But, it does not seem to work.
: > 
: > Pl help.
: > 
: > Vivek...

: I had the same problem under AfterStep, then finally "upgraded" to KDE
: 1.1 and mouse autoraise was no more a problem...

: http://www.kde.org/

: I don't know if there is the possibility to fix this behaviour under
: fvwm, but I think it is, so keep asking!

: - Fabrizio

--
While Alcatel may claim ownership of all my ideas (on or off the job),
Alcatel does not claim any responsibility for them. Warranty expired when u
opened this article and I will not be responsible for its contents or use.

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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to mount cdrom
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:26:07 +0000

I think the problem may be that you are trying to mount the CD while your cwd
(current working directory) is /mnt/cdrom; ie, you are in the cdrom directory
while trying to mount the CD on it. Try:

cd /dev
mount cdrom
cd cdrom

HTH,

Tim

remove "NOSPAM" to mail

Doug wrote:

> From control; panel there is  a mouinting tool i click on nount cdrom??
>
> I used commsand s tooZ:
> cd/mnt/cdrom
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> cd/mnt/cdrom
> ????
>
> Thanks for advise
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Doug ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > : When I go to mount my cdrom from user mount tool or by commands i get.
> > : mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected,mounting read only.
> >
> > : mount: wrong fs,bad option,bad superblock on dev/cdrom or too masny file
> > : systems.
> > <<<<<<snip>>>>>>
> > Can you show us the exact command you type to mount it, and your
> > /etc/fstab file? Those things would help to answer your question.




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From: Mark Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: delay in execution of programs-Xfree & Netscape]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:21:12 +0000
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All was fine after initial install of RH5.1 with XFree86 (svga I
think),  Since then I've made a new xinitrc (i think) using
Xconfigurator to change the res., and I have also reinstalled the Kernel
after having some trouble during boot-up.  Now netscape doesn't load
properly.  After selecting it there is some disk activity (nothin
abnormal) then a good 5 minute delay and then another quick look at the
hard disk, then bang and its on my screen.  End of story.  Is there some
kind of task management which controls priority which could cause this.
If not what????

I have other symptoms/problems at the moment.  Calderas Star Office
won't install, after selecting setup from a command line in an Xterm,
after a lot of thinking and telling me some crap about the window
manager not setting the icon size, a gui eventually appears taking up
the whole screen and chaging the mouse pointer, a Next button is visible
along with a logo, the machine is then completely locked up, something
that I've never seen happen using Linux/unix.

Thanks for any advice,
Mark Hamlin


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From: Merman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:38:58 GMT

OK, I got all the C & C++ libs installed.  I can run ./configure, but it get only so 
far
before I get this error:

checking for TIFFGetVersion in -ltiff... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... no
checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config
checking for GTK - version >= 1.0.0... no
*** Could not run GTK test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK was incorrectly installed
*** or that you have moved GTK since it was installed. In the latter case, you
*** may want to edit the gtk-config script: /usr/bin/gtk-config
configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?

I have installed:
gtk+-1.0.6-3
gtk+-devel-1.0.6-3

What could be the problem?

Thanks




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp)
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:32:41 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson) wrote:
> The next step to getting this Linux system the way I want it is to look at
> encryption.

See `http://tcfs.dia.unisa.it/'.  (Please note that I have not tried
this myself, so I cannot say anything about how secure or how easy to
use it is.)

Regards,
Martin


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:59:04 -0600
From: Stimpy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fat 32 logical drives problem.

Anyone know if there is a limitation with linux resulting in logical
drives in ext partitions not being mountable?

Have 2 hardrives, 8.6 and 6.8 gig drives.  6.8 gig drive is hdb and is
fine, has redhat 5.1 on it and works fine.
8.6 gig has 3 partitions primary and 2 extended.  The first extended
partition ,hda2, has 13 logical drives in it all formated as fat32.
Linux wont let me mount any of the logical drives.  Most of the logical
drives are 600 + megs.  Linux mounts hda1 the primary part and hda3 the
2nd extended partition.   When trying to mount any of the logical drives

gives me this error,

    mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/dosC -t msdos

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3, or too
many mounted file systems.

dir /dev lists drives from hda to hda16 for drive hda.

When trying to mount /dev/hda10 get this message

    mount /dev/hda10 mnt/dosC -t msdos

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3, or too
many mounted file systems (aren't you trying to mount an extended
partition, instead of some logical partition inside?

I checked the startup messages on linux startup and found this during
the partition check
    hda:hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }



The next line shows hdb and c and d to be ok.

fdisk reports this when the partition table was printed,

device       boot    begin     start       end
blocks            id                 system
/dev/hda1     *        1           1              78              626503

+        b            win95 fat32
/dev/hda2               79         79            1031         7654972
+      f             unknown
Partition 2 has different physical /logical endings
        phys=(1023, 254, 63)         logcial=(1030, 254, 63)

Linux will let mount hda1 fine along with hda3.  Only the logical drives

are giving me trouble.

Seems like something isnt right.  Can anyone can help me figure out why
linux wont mount the logical drives or point me to a faq or howto
explaining this?

Thanks in advance.




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From: Ryan Speed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: printing from slackware -> nt hp lj III
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:53:16 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello I would greatly appreciate if someone could either help me out or
point me in the direction of some good documentation that will help me
resolve my problem from beginning to end, here is my situation I have 2
linux (slackware) machines running on a Windows NT domintated client /
server network, I would like to be able to print from anywhere in
slackware (ie. wp8 or netscape) but the printer (hewlet packard laser
III) is setup on one a 95 machine (//inkblot/hpiii lab1)on the nt
network.  i would like to use whatever method possible to get full
access to the printer (ie. be able to print text/graphics, and maybe
even view the print cue) from within applications.  the closest i have
gotten which is not acceptable for me is the smb:/> prompt (where i was
able to print text files).  If anyone could help me out it would be very
much appreciated.  i will give a basic description of my network
below(we are using ethernet if that matters.

Linux Machine 1
Linux Distributuion: Slackware 3.6 (w/kernel 2.2 final)
Name: absolut
IP: 142.231.36.103 (itas-103.mala.bc.ca)

Linux Machine 2
Linux Distributuion: Slackware 3.6 (w/kernel 2.2 final)
Name: furball
IP: 142.231.36.210 (itas-210.mala.bc.ca)

Windows 95 Print server
OS: win95 osr2.5
name: inkblot
ip: 142.231.36.193 (itas-193.mala.bc.ca)
location of priter share: HPIII LAB1 (//inkblot/hpiii lab1)
what i get when i type smbclient -L inkblot

security=share

Server=[INKBLOT] User=[] Workgroup=[ITAS] Domain=[]

        Sharename      Type      Comment
        ---------      ----      -------
        HPIII LAB1     Printer   First Year Printer (ITAS)
        IPC$           IPC       Remote Inter Process Communication
        PRINTER$       Disk


if you need more info please email me like i said earlier i would
greatly appreciate any help even if it is just a small tidbit i can use
any help i can get

please reply to my email as well as the newsgroup

thanks in advance

ryan speed



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Looking for software on the Net
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:36:26 GMT

Quoting a message by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vladimir Vuksan) in
comp.os.linux.misc:

>Check out LinuxBerg (Tucows Linux archive)
>
>http://www.linuxberg.com/

Wow. I had no idea that Tucows had a Lunux site. Cool :> When they
dropped the OS/2 section from Tucows, I thought for sure that they
were going Windoze-only.

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From: (COOL)[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrea Cerrito)
Subject: Error compiling Apache 1.3.4
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:28:31 GMT

My Configure file said:
"
+ doing sanity check on compiler and options
ld: cannot open crt1.0: No such file or directory
make: *** [dummy] Error 1
*** A test compilation...
"
My CCompiler is GCC with RedHat 5.0, installed by RPM.
What I have to do???
Thnx!
=)

Andrea Cerrito

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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:52:43 -0800

Marco Anglesio wrote:

>
> If you already have a Solaris shop, what would make you convert to Linux?
>
> Firstly, software that isn't available on Solaris, which is on Linux. Not
> many of those, if any, and since most Linux software is OSS, you can port
> and recompile.
>
> Secondly, price-performance. Intel boxes offer excellent price-performance
> at the low to medium end, especially when compared to traditional Unix
> vendors such as HP, SGI, IBM, or Sun.
>
> High end enterprise servers? I would say no, both because clustering
> technology for linux is immature, multiprocessing is barely mature
> (although kernel 2.2 provides for a great improvement, or so I hear), and
> reliability is restricted by the PC architecture and hardware - not the
> best in the world.
>
> Thirdly, security. Linux is typically the first OS to produce patches for
> any given exploit. Linux vendors are typically fully open as to the
> security status of their software. In the modern world, where one assumes
> that the attacker knows as much about your system as you do, these are
> good things.
>
> Do these three reasons offer a compelling reason to switch to Linux?
> Depends on your situation. You may already have such a vested interest in
> Sun hardware and Solaris software that a conversion is moot. However, if
> you're looking at aging hardware and aging software and no demand for
> high-end or enterprise solutions, Linux presents a viable alternative. Not
> a *perfect* alternative, but a viable one.
>
> Linux being Linux should never be a reason to switch. Linux being good for
> the job should be an excellent reason to switch.
>
> marco

These are all very good points and they are all accounted for.  We are chosing
to *add* linux because we are converting to Apache from Oracle Webserver.  It
goes on that "lighter and tighter" saying.  Notice I stressed "add"?  We are
keeping the Sun boxes (no reason to get rid of them) and since we are expanding
we just decided to add linux boxes instead of purchasing more Ultra's.  The
main reason driving this is cost.  Three of these 1GB RAM dual Xeon boxes is
the cost of one Ultra.  And as a web server, each system should get similar
performance (if not better) then an Ultra 2.  Also I think commiting to one
product is risky in this business.  If you know that you have tried and tested
two different platforms then if/when one dies or the other simply becomes more
superior in time then it should be much easier to migrate.



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