Linux-Misc Digest #943, Volume #27 Fri, 25 May 01 16:13:03 EDT
Contents:
How To Set The Swap size ? ("yotam")
Re: How To Set The Swap size ?
Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free (Dave Mundt)
Re: permanent mail server question (Dave Mundt)
Re: permanent mail server question (Vilmos Soti)
Agenda PDA (Martin Gregorie)
Re: How to install debian kde_2 (Colin Watson)
100MB or 10? (Brian Pontz)
Re: rpm package building problems ("jww")
Star Office is NOT stable ("Christopher R. Carlen")
Re: microphone volume level? (Nate Eldredge)
Creating rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1 (Jeff Shepherd)
How to get pixels from a Pixmap in GDK (Etienne Maitre)
Re: Help With Xterm (Jim Cochrane)
Re: 100MB or 10? (Michael Heiming)
Re: @Home setup SO SLOW ("Coles")
Re: Creating rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1 (David)
Source for custom PC CASE BADGES (SecurisysAgency)
Re: XTerm Question (Steven Yap)
/etc/shadow password encrypted and not (LRW)
Re: @Home setup SO SLOW ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Winmodems? ("Peter Titas")
NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 29 May 2001: Richard Stallman on the Free Software Movement and
the GNU/Linux Operating System ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "yotam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.certification.redhat,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How To Set The Swap size ?
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:04:13 +0200
I am using R.H 7 is it possible to change the swap size after installation ?
thanks in advance
Or Freund .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.certification.redhat,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How To Set The Swap size ?
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:24:35 GMT
On Fri, 25 May 2001 18:04:13 +0200, yotam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am using R.H 7 is it possible to change the swap size after installation ?
>thanks in advance
>Or Freund .
>
>
boot in single user mode and run cfdisk. However it's a bit primative.
I don't think you can resize partitions with deleting and recreating.
might even work
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Mundt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:29:15 GMT
Greetings and Salutations...
On Fri, 25 May 2001 12:03:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
wrote:
>On Fri, 25 May 2001 03:58:01 +0000, Richard Thrippleton
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>characters regardless? I know there's some reason for this, but it escapes
>>me at this time. Any ideas?
>
>Because the most popular character-cell terminals (ANSI/DEC VT-xxx series)
>have 80-column wide screens. You'll notice that if you use a terminal
>emulator or the Linux console, that's what you'll get by default.
>
>(There was a time on Usenet when no one would need such a thing explained
>to them. :-)
>
>--
> Roger Blake
> (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
Actually, it goes back further than that. The original
Hollerith cards used for data input on the systems had 80 columns.
Traditionally, the last four columns were used for a sequence number
(have YOU ever dropped a box of 2000 punchcards without sequence
numbers? I have...it only takes ONE time like that to scar a person
for life).
In any case...because of this physical limitation, the line
length on early I/O equipment was set at 80 colums. Although this
physical limit was fairly meaningless when we finally got to a point
of terminals logged into a timesharing system, at least with IBM the
early terminals buffered the input data and sent it TO the mainframes
in 80 column images.
The first time I ran into systems that supported more than 80
columns on a terminal was the DEC VT-100 terminal...which did support
132 columns (as did the decwriter dot matrix printer/terminal).
For what it is worth, there is a story about that Hollerith
chose the size of the punch cards (7 and 3/8 inches by 3 and
1/4 inches) at the size of the dollar bills of the era. By using
this size he would have had a huge collection of tools for dealing
with large numbers of them. Other folks seem to feel this is
nonsense, and, since Herman has been dead since 1929, we can't ask
him.
Regards
Dave Mundt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Mundt)
Subject: Re: permanent mail server question
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:32:44 GMT
Greetings and Salutations..
On Thu, 24 May 2001 23:40:45 -0400, "Marc Arbour"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Could anyone direct me in this project. I am a junior Linux network admin
>and was asked to put up a permanent mail server on the net.
>
>We are actually using the services of Netnation.ca for our POP accounts and
>would like to have OUR OWN mail server. Totally independant. Internal
>clients would
>connect to that server with Outlook Express for the most part. It also has
>to be available from the internet as well. I was planning to use
>phpgroupware for outside
>access (www.phpgroupware.org)
>
>I need a little guidance as to what to do. I will be using Mandrake 8.0. Are
>there any good howto pages out there that could tell me everything that
>needs to be done? Like what to do in what order? How can I allow access from
>the
>inside, but not from the outside? (see outside remark earlier)
>
>I have found many howto's (especially the ones on MUO) that explain how to
>do
>this with an external POP provider, like ISP's. I really require a full
>blown mail system. A complete replacement to Exchange.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Best regards
>
>Marco
>
>____________________________________________
>The instructions required to install Windows 95 or better...
>So I installed Linux!
>
Well, sendmail IS the classic, and, will work great, given
enough time and education. I would suggest you check out exim
(www.exim.org) as a somewhat less painful alternative. I gather it
does not scale upwards to 10s of thousands of postboxesl, but, for a
small to moderately sized business, it seems to work well.
Regards
Dave Mundt
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Subject: Re: permanent mail server question
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:42:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Mundt) writes:
>> Could anyone direct me in this project. I am a junior Linux network admin
>> and was asked to put up a permanent mail server on the net.
>>
>> We are actually using the services of Netnation.ca for our POP accounts and
>> would like to have OUR OWN mail server. Totally independant. Internal
>> clients would
>
> Well, sendmail IS the classic, and, will work great, given
> enough time and education. I would suggest you check out exim
> (www.exim.org) as a somewhat less painful alternative. I gather it
Also take a look at qmail (http://cr.yp.to and http://www.qmail.org) which
is a secure and fast mail server. The install instructions are terse
but they explain everything.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Agenda PDA
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:04:34 GMT
Has anybody on here got an Agenda yet?
If so, what do you think of it?
--
gregorie | Martin Gregorie
@logica | Logica Ltd
com | +44 020 76379111
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: How to install debian kde_2
Date: 25 May 2001 16:59:28 GMT
Martin Drautzburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a CD with a bunch of .deb files and Packages.gz. Where do I go
>from here (other than installing them one by one in the correct order
>with dpkg -i file) ?
apt-cdrom add
dselect update
... then either 'dselect' or 'apt-get install <foo>'.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"People frequently expect it to work like this. So it does."
- perlref(1p) man page
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Pontz)
Subject: 100MB or 10?
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:17:59 GMT
I have a 10/100 Intel card running on a RedHat Linux 6.2 System.
How can I tell is the card is coming up at 100Mb or 10Mb? ifconfig
doesnt tell me neither does demsg.
Thanks
Brian
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From: "jww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm package building problems
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:21:39 -0400
To answer my own questions:
The provides goes in the spec file; e.g. rpm -bb xyz.spec
like so:
Provides: libabc.a libxyz.a
There IS an envvar provided at uninstall time: $RPM_INSTALL_PREFIX, so my
scripts can handle relocatable packages.
"jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:oSdP6.978$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It seems like your libabc.a and libxyz.a are not in your rpm
> > database. Could you confirm this with
> >
> > rpm -q -f /full/path/to/libabc.a
>
> Yep, fails.
> >
> > If this is the case, you have a few choices.
> >
> > - package and install whatever software contains libabc.a,
> > and libxyz.a
>
> Well, this makes no sense, because libabc.a and libxyz are both part of
the
> package I am trying to install. Do you mean I must separate them into a
> different package and install it first? That makes no sense either.
> >
> > - install the package by forcing it to ignore dependencies,
> > e.g. the --nodeps flag
>
> Yep, this works for sure.
> >
> > - Add "provides libabc.a" and "provides libxyz.a" to your rpm
> > macros file. The system-wide file would be
> > /usr/lib/rpm/macros. But, maybe you'd prefer this to only
> > affect your account. In that case the file would be
> > ~/.rpmmacros
>
> I tried this. Running as root and put .rpmmacros in /root/.rpmmacros with
2
> lines:
> provides libabc.a
> provides libxyz.a
>
> Doesn't work.
>
> The system wide file /usr/lib/rpm/macros is a very confusing looking file.
> I gave up on it - don't think that's the right place to do it anyway.>
>
> RPM seems to be somewhat flawed; in a couple ways.
>
> The other flaw seems to be that if I want a relocatable package - e.g.
> supply a prefix stanza - there seems no way for the directory that the
user
> installs into to be passed into any of the pre and post install scripts;
> which is where I have to do some symbolic links into /usr/lib and
> /usr/include.
>
> > G'luck....
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I'm trying to build an RPM package. I have 2 library files (e.g.
> libabc.a
> > > and libxyz.a) that are required by the executables (in addition to
> system
> > > libraries), so when rpm -bb runs the find-requires script, it
determines
> > > these files are required.
> > > The build works and creates the rpm package file.
> > >
> > > Then when I do the rpm --install of the package file, I get the
message:
> > > error: failed dependencies:
> > > libabc.a is needed by XXX-2.0-0
> > > libxyz.a is needed by XXX-2.0-0
> > --
> > Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
> > opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be
affiliated.
>
>
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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Star Office is NOT stable
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:00:52 -0700
Hi:
I wrote last week about some crashing and blank printing problems with
SO5.2, specifically running under Suse 7.1.
Several respondents replied that they almost never see Star Office
crash, including under Suse 7.1, and doing "normal" (implying a range of
functions employed) tasks.
I have uncovered the cause of the most frequent crashing problem that
was impeding my work last week, and it is easy to work around. See
<http://supportforum.sun.com/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi?/staroffice.com.support.stardraw>
specifically
<http://supportforum.sun.com/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED]^[email protected]>
However, I still find that SO5.2 crashes on average 1-3 times a day
during heavy use, ie. continuous use for 4-6 hours of complicated
functionality and integrating objects between application modules.
Thus, I wish to refute the anecdotal data that SO5.2 is extremely
stable. I would rather call it tolerably stable, or perhaps a grade of
"C" as big commercial office apps go, but certainly not worthy of
praise. I understand and hope others do as well that these datums are
anecdotal. A detailed evaluation of the stability of SO5.2 on various
platforms, following formulated sequences of complex activities would be
the only way to quantitatively measure the "stability" of SO5.2, and to
determine if instabilities are due to Linux distribution differences or
SO5.2 itself. In the case of my particular system, it is SO5.2 that
stands out as disproportionately less stable than any of the other
programs I use regularly: Netscape (yes even Netscape is slightly more
stable), Applixware (never fails), Mathematica (very rare crash), Eagle
(very rare crash), VMware (crashes only when settling on a
configuration), Konqueror (very rare crash). Given that the
instabilities on my system are not evenly distributed among the apps I
use but rather concentrated in SO5.2 is strong evidence that the problem
is SO5.2.
I also have concern about the usefulness of a common response that often
arises when one posts about instablities in an application, that is,
that the user has an improperly configured system. One person responded
to my earlier posts with a suggestion that my X configuration was
suspect. My X configuration was done by the distribution, and so I have
every reason to expect that it was done correctly. I know it may in
fact be faulty due to errors on the part of the distro. But the point
is that in the context of the advocacy and improvement of Linux as a
useable OS for desktop users, those users will not accept the blame for
improper X configurations or whatever other fundamental flaws in the
platform are the cause of an application crashing (if in fact that is
the reason). They will see things in either one of two ways: the
application is unstable, or Linux is unstable (no, they will not
differentiate between "Linux" the underlying kernel and the X and
associated KDE/GNOMEs layers.) Before offering the response that the
user's system is improperly configured, we should first carefully
consider evidence such as what I have stated above about the observed
distribution of instability among applications running on a particular
system.
Thus, I simply ask that we keep an open mind to the constructive value
potential of reports of problems from users of Linux, that those
problems may in fact be due to some problem in the apps or in "Linux"
itself (the sum total of kernel+X+extra GUI layers). It will be through
investigating and correcting those flaws, or in the case of commercial
app instabilities, documenting bugs and workarounds in the public space,
that will lead to a more successful Linux desktop future. Of course we
generally do this very well, so I am not saying we don't, but rather
just reiterating the value of this.
Finally, in case anyone thinks that my experiences of SO5.2 instability
are isolated, I suggest reading the issues being discussed on Sun's news
server starnews.sun.com, and the web based Star Office support forums
located at <http://supportforum.sun.com/staroffice/index.html>
One will find a variety of crash reports.
--
_______________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Sr. Laser/Optical Tech.
Sandia National Labs
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From: Nate Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: microphone volume level?
Date: 25 May 2001 11:10:27 -0700
Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) writes:
>
> >> Is there an easy way for a program to obtain a reading on the loudness
> >> level of audio coming into the microphone? (This would be something I
> >> would want if I wanted to start an application if someone slams the door
> >> in the room.)
> >
> > You must read samples from the audio device and then perform an moving
>
> Wouldn't /dev/mixer, /dev/audioctl, (depends on system) be better?
No. That will merely let you set the maximum input level. To
determine the amplitude of the signal actually coming in requires that
you look at the signal.
If you unplug your speakers and twiddle the volume knobs on your
stereo, can you tell how loud the music is?
--
Nate Eldredge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Creating rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:13:30 -0700
From: Jeff Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How do I create a floppy rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1?
- Jeff -
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From: Etienne Maitre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: How to get pixels from a Pixmap in GDK
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:19:34 +0900
Hi
I have a problem using GDK. I need to easily use the drawing primitive of a drawing
area (line, rectangle, pixel, ...) but I need to read easilly the color of a specified
pixel. GdkPixmap is perfect for the first need but can't do the second. Whereas
gdkImage is perfect for the second but can't do the first. I'm a newbie in that field
(I miss my Delphi on this problem) and I can't figure out a solution.
Thanks
Etienne
Man is the only animal that never learns from its mistakes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: Help With Xterm
Date: 25 May 2001 12:55:41 -0600
In article <h2vP6.66023$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Buck Turgidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I asked a couple of days ago about using Xterm on Win98 to access a linux machine.
>I downloaded X-Win32, and got it loaded and running. I've got X running on linux.
>
>When I get a session going on MS Windows, all I get is a xTerm terminal window,
>similar to telnet. I was expecting some sort of graphical window of Gnome, as per
>Starnet's website.
>
>Did I miss a step here, or is this just one of the disappointments of life?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
It sounds like you want an X server that runs on Windows. You might try
doing a web search at google (x server windows), see what's available and
read up a bit on it.
--
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:11:12 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 100MB or 10?
Brian Pontz wrote:
>
> I have a 10/100 Intel card running on a RedHat Linux 6.2 System.
> How can I tell is the card is coming up at 100Mb or 10Mb? ifconfig
> doesnt tell me neither does demsg.
>
> Thanks
> Brian
check "mii-tool", it should have come with your distro, if not:
http://www.scyld.com/
Michael Heiming
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From: "Coles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @Home setup SO SLOW
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:14:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "LRW"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can get connected to the @Home service, and can even ping out and
> resolve addresses, etc, but my x-fer rate is no more than about 2kbps!
> And stalls out constantly.
I had the same problems, maybe even worse. I started off with static ip
configuration. They changed their routers. Turned out, the new routers
are setup to drop packets if you didn't get your address via dhcp. They
said it was a 'security measure' BS more like it. I now use dhcpcd from
ISC's dhcp package. I believe the command is something like:
dhcpcd -B -h cg12345-a
The -B means broadcast and was necessary in my area.
<shameless rant>
@Home has no clue when it comes to anything besides Windows. That icludes
security.
</shameless rant>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:25:41 GMT
Jeff Shepherd wrote:
>
> How do I create a floppy rescue disk in Red Hat 7.1?
>
> - Jeff -
Not sure this is what you want but maybe.
Emergency Boot Disk:
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440 # makes a 1.44MB floppy
/sbin/mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 x.x.xx
# x.x.xx is kernel version.
Or you can make one like this.
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
# makes a 1.44 MB floppy
mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0
# format to ext2 format
cp /boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0
# copies the kernel (vmlinuz) to floppy
/usr/sbin/rdev
# Shows kernel root device such as "/dev/hda5"
/usr/sbin/rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdaX
# hdaX root device shown by command above.
/usr/sbin/rdev -R /dev/fd0 1
# This makes the root device read only
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.217% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:29:37 GMT
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Subject: Re: XTerm Question
From: Steven Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:31:11 GMT
"Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I asked a couple of days ago about using Xterm on Win98 to access a
> linux machine. I downloaded X-Win32, and got it loaded and running.
> I've got X running on linux.
>
> When I get a session going on MS Windows, all I get is a xTerm
> terminal window, similar to telnet. I was expecting some sort of
> graphical window of KDE, as per Starnet's website.
>
On your Linux box, do you get a graphical login? If you do, then kdm
is probably running.
To get the same graphical login on your Windows box, do the following:
1. Configure X-Win32 to NOT use Multiple Window mode. I.e. All X
windows will live within a single X-Win32 window instead of being
"integrated" with you MS Windows desktop.
2. Configure an X-Win32 session to use XDMCP as the connection
method.
3. Configure your Linux box to serve up XDMCP sessions through kdm
to your MS Windows machine. The file to change is Xaccess. On
Debian systems, it can be found in /etc/X11/kdm. I suspect it's
at the same location for other distributions.
That should be enough. Mind you, I only have 1 machine so I've never
actually done this before. Cheers.
--
steven yap
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From: LRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: /etc/shadow password encrypted and not
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:31:01 -0500
Can someone give me a reason why when using RedHat's User Manager, new
accounts have the password encrypted in /etc/shadow, but users created
with useradd at the command line have clear text passwords in ..shadow?
Is there a way to set a password at the command line that comes over as
encrypted in shadow?
Thanks!
Liam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: @Home setup SO SLOW
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:44:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Coles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "LRW"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I can get connected to the @Home service, and can even ping out and
>> resolve addresses, etc, but my x-fer rate is no more than about 2kbps!
>> And stalls out constantly.
> I had the same problems, maybe even worse. I started off with static ip
> configuration. They changed their routers. Turned out, the new routers
> are setup to drop packets if you didn't get your address via dhcp. They
> said it was a 'security measure' BS more like it. I now use dhcpcd from
> ISC's dhcp package. I believe the command is something like:
> dhcpcd -B -h cg12345-a
> The -B means broadcast and was necessary in my area.
> <shameless rant>
> @Home has no clue when it comes to anything besides Windows. That icludes
> security.
> </shameless rant>
That's interesting... I also use Comcast @Home and haven't noticed that,
though I have had my fair share of problems (outages, lousy service)...
Did your upload speed recently drop, too?
Adam
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From: "Peter Titas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Winmodems?
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:54:34 -0400
I am pretty new to using Linux and I have read about everything there is
about the horrors of using a winmodem in Linux. However, I am too stubborn
to pack it in this early.
I have a Lucent Winmodem and I have installed the Lucent drivers in redhat
7.1. Unfortunately, my modem is still not recognized. I made sure the
driver was correct for my particular modem.
Any suggestions(minus buying a new modem and so forth)?
Thanks in advance.
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 29 May 2001: Richard Stallman on the Free Software
Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System
Date: 25 May 2001 15:56:39 -0400
Richard Stallman will speak at the Courant Institute of Mathematical
Sciences on the Island of the Manahattoes at 10:00 am on Tuesday 29 May 2001.
This meeting is free and open to the public.
http://www.fsf.org
Below is the official notice from
http://www.cs.nyu.edu/csweb/Calendar/colloquium/sp01/may29.html
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
<blockquote
edit-level="light">
The Free Software Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System
Richard Stallman
Tuesday, May 29, 2001
10:00 a.m.
Room 109 Warren Weaver Hall
251 Mercer Street
New York, NY 10012-1185
Host:
Edmond Schonberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 998-3494
Directions:
http://cs.nyu.edu/csweb/Location/directions.html
Information on the Computer Science Colloquium:
http://cs.nyu.edu/csweb/Calendar/colloquium/index.html
Richard Stallman will speak about the purpose, goals, philosophy, methods,
status, and future prospects of the GNU operating system, which in
combination with the kernel Linux is now used by an estimated 17 to 20
million users worldwide. He will also address the remarks recently made by
Craig Mundie of Microsoft, on the supposed drawbacks of free software.
All are invited.
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