Linux-Networking Digest #192, Volume #12 Wed, 11 Aug 99 17:13:48 EDT
Contents:
Re: Corporate Site Access (peter)
Re: Netscape, Linux and MS Proxy (John Perser)
Maximum traffic a day for Apache (Paul de Groot)
Re: enabling DHCP? ("Andrey Smirnov")
RCP errors ("Dan Tager")
Re: routing ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: ppp problem - ISP does not respond to configure requests (Clifford Kite)
Re: Cyrus, Procmail, and Postfix--HELP!! (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Debian network card install, a little problem... ("Gerry and Debra O'Connor")
Re: enabling DHCP? ("Robert_Glover")
Re: Can't get 3c905b working...HELP???? [resolved] (Jan-Albert van Ree)
Re: Abdullah & Jessie (and any one else) ("Jonathan Wilson")
Re: IPchains error ? ("Douglas J. Olivier")
Re: This is really bugging me.: ("Gert Jensen")
Re: PPP to Shiva LanRover from Linux (Steve Masticola)
RTL8139 and Rx errors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
FTP and POP3 connection delays (William Halfond)
Re: NIS/NIS+ on Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corporate Site Access
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:19:42 +0200
Try http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If it�s a standard login
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From: John Perser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz
Subject: Re: Netscape, Linux and MS Proxy
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:10:07 -0500
You might investigate using winproxy or wingate if you can't get MSProxy to
work.
David Eno wrote:
> I'm running MS Small Business BackOffice Server 4.0. I'm running the
> version of MS Proxy that comes with SBBO. I have a few Linux boxes that I
> would like to get to the WWW from. It appears that MS Proxy is not
> letting
> Netscape on the Linux machines to get to the internet.
>
> Is there anything I can do to make Linux be able to get to the internet
> through MS Proxy?
>
> BTW, I have 20 Win98 boxes that work fine on the network.
>
> Here's a couple of additional things I should mention.
>
> When running Netscape in Linux, I initially am prompted for a proxy user ID
> and passwd. It seems to accept them. At this point, I get messages at the
> bottom of the Netscape window that say the connection to the web site has
> been made and that it's attempting to connect to the proxy server. These
> are two separate messages that flash back and forth rapidly.
>
> I have the proxy settings set up in Netscape.
>
> I have a RedHat 5.2, SuSE 6.0 and a Mandrake 6.0 box. In each case, I'm
> running the version of Netscape that came on the CD. The symptom is common
> to all.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Dave E.
--
John Perser Audio Evangelist & Product Mgr.
Multigen-Paradigm Inc. www.multigen-paradigm.com
---
Q: Imagine standing in a jungle at night with your eyes closed, you hear
heavy breathing behind, above you and to the left? What are you?
A: Scared and running away...
Q: Imagine the same situation with your ears plugged. What are you?
A: A midnight snack.
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From: Paul de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maximum traffic a day for Apache
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:50:07 +0200
Hi,
I'm running Redhat 6.0 and Apache 1.3.6.
I would like to have Apache counting how much traffic it generated
during that day and when for example the 200 MB has been reached that
day, instead of returning my page it returns a ErrorDocument ("Try again
later...")
Does anybody know if this is possible and how? Would I need a seperate
module??
Thanx,
Paul
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: enabling DHCP?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:44:08 -0700
http://www.linux.com/howto/mini/DHCP.html
colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7osh4n$if$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> newbie question...
> I didn't configure networking support during the Redhat install.
> How do I enable my NIC as a DHCP client? It's a PCMCIA ethernet card.
> It shows up in ifconfig as eth0 I think...
>
> regards,
>
>
> COlin
>
>
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From: "Dan Tager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RCP errors
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:40:42 -0400
When trying to rcp many files, total of about 4 gig, from a SCO box to a
Linux box, I intermittently get the following errors...
On the local side I get the following console message...
remotehost.domain: Connection reset by peer
On the remote side I get the following...
rshd[20621]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as user: cmd='rcp -p -t /foo/bar/'
Aug 11 12:42:02 host inetd[127]: shell/tcp server failing (looping), service
terminated
The first 400 or so files get copied just fine. Any ideas?
--Dan
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: routing
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:36:28 -0700
Can you include your routing table (netstat -rn) and also ifconfig -a.
Good luck!
David Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> We have a Cisco router connected to the Internet (Cox)-216.54.1.41
> (255.255.255.248). I am setting up RH Linux 5.2 to use as a
> firewall/proxy for our LAN. One card in the Linux machine is
> 216.54.1.42 (mask is 255.255.255.248)--eth0. This card is directly
> connected to the router. The other card is 192.168.1.1 (255.255.255.0
> mask)--eth1. This card is connected to a hub. eth0 is a 3c509 and eth1
> is a 3c509b--PnP disabled; both cards show up fine on boot & are listed
> correctly with ifconfig. IP forwarding has been enabled. I cannot ping
> out from this machine or
> any other on the network. What should my routing table look like? Any
> input is welcome and very much appreciated--Thanks--DaveH.
>
> David Hopkins
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: ppp problem - ISP does not respond to configure requests
Date: 11 Aug 1999 11:49:03 -0500
Amir J. Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I talked to my ISP and they claim they don't use PAP/CHAP, but since they say
: upfront that they don't support linux, I don't trust this claim %100. However,
: they told me to call them tonight when I connect and they will do a ppp trace on
: their side and hopefully we'll find the culprit.
I distrust that claim 100%. Their PPP implementation is offering both
CHAP and PAP. You need to ask for their supervisor and keep asking
for the next guy up the ladder until you find someone competent to
understand the question.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.mail.imap
Subject: Re: Cyrus, Procmail, and Postfix--HELP!!
Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:56:08 -0600
>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Vanecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matthew> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 11 14:04:18 1999
Matthew> Subject: root test Folder: /usr/cyrus/bin/deliver-wrapper
Matthew> user.me2v.local 577 user.me2v.Backup: Message contains
Matthew> invalid header user.me2v.local: Message contains invalid
Matthew> header
Most likely the message you're passing to deliver has a From<space>
header on the front. Try piping the output from procmail through
"tail +1" before sending it to deliver.
--lyndon
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From: "Gerry and Debra O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian network card install, a little problem...
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:01:34 -0400
ok here goes... been chasing my tail for a few days now off and on... I've
got debian 2.0.36 installed, (downloaded the install base, run thru it)
without any of the major packages, since i cannot get my network card
(linksys 10/100 etherfast) to recognise mediaone (i have win95 configured
and running with mediaone).
Mounted the win95 volume so i could transfer debian packages that i
downloaded each time... thank my lucky stars that vfat is supported as
default... :)
I installed some of the packages that i needed to make my debian work (some
that i have used in the past, a good editor etc...) by hand (dpkg was a best
friend at times...) since i cannot get a current package list from a
ftp/http debian mirror as my NETWORK CARD will not work. and dselect is a
bit on the wild side since package list is needed but my NETWORK CARD is
non-working...
The network card from what i can tell has a tulip chipset, so i used the
tulip.c file from the linksys floppies (and compiling it was a pain as i
downloaded gcc with all the utils, to find that i really need the src tree,
gees it gets more complicated...) so i compiled it on another debian system
only to find that the resulting tulip.o file was compiled on 2.0.35!!! So i
forced it with the insmod -f thingy but no luck... It installs but still not
network connection...
tulip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Even got the latest driver, from the tulip web site, compiled that and still
nothing...
I've setup the network for a static ip, just to see... i've not gotten dhcp
up and running yet... wanted to see if the ip that has been assigned for a
while would work... but no luck... or is this a no no....
There is a tulip-diag file from the tulip driver site, so compiled that, and
it says that the RX is stopped, TX is stopped etc... here follows is the
results...
tulip-diag.c:v1.10 4/12/99 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0xb000.
Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, half-duplex.
Transmit stopped, Receive stopped, half-duplex.
The Rx process state is 'Stopped'.
The Tx process state is 'Stopped'.
The transmit threshold is 72.
Use '-a' to show device registers,
'-e' to show EEPROM contents,
or '-m' to show MII management registers.
Is it supposed to be stopped...? I've got the PNP in my bios turned off as
per linux instructions... it's on irq 9 when it boots.
Anyone got any ideas... modconf will not install the tulip.o driver as it
says that the device or recource is busy... , if i fource it via insmod it
installs but still nothing...
Anyone out there another debian fan... :)
I've installed debian many times in the past, never had this type of
trouble... ever...
I just want to get the network connection working so i can continue the
install.. I've ordered a CD copy of debian 2.1, a week or so... but would
like to get it working on my own if i can...
Gerry O'Connor
Debian, NT, Win95, and what's NeXT?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert_Glover" <Please_reply_to@newsgroup>
Subject: Re: enabling DHCP?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:51:52 -0000
Just type 'dhcpcd -h myhostname -i eth0' from the command line.
You'll figure out the rest.
You should take eth0 down first.
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From: Jan-Albert van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't get 3c905b working...HELP???? [resolved]
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:29:36 +0200
Daniel Bonds schreef:
>
> Well, I think I got it working last night. I found something in a
> dejanews search about a how screwy the PCI slots can be on the Abit
> BP6 (my new motherboard). Apparently, they might not all be
> busmastering capable and there's all kinds of weird IRQ sharing
> issues. I moved the card around a few times and eventually got it
> working with kernel drivers... still no modules.. oh well.
>
> I didn't have a crossover cable to connect it to my other PC as I had
> planned, but I'm making one as we speak and will hopefully get it up
> and running tonight.. woohoo. I'll probably see if I can find a newer
> 3c90xcfg from 3com that will disable card PnP and maybe throw the new
> 2.2.11 kernel in just to confuse things. :-)
IRQ's on the latest Abit boards are sometimes shared...
AGP + PCI1 (top PCI) share an IRQ (P_IRQ1 in BIOS option....)
PCI2 P_IRC2
PCI3 P_IRQ3
PCI4+PCI5 P_IRQ4 (and also shared with the USB if I'm correct)
Depending on your graphics card, you might be able to put the NIC in PCI1
and share an IRQ with the videocard in the AGP slot (Abit BX6-2.0 here with
Diamond Viper550 in AGP and 3Com905-TX in PCI1 running 100%)
--
Jan-Albert "Sliver" van Ree | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3D Sims Archive maintainer | http://www.3dgamers.com
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From: "Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Abdullah & Jessie (and any one else)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:47:56 GMT
Jessie: what does ping mean? To look something up with a browser? Iinally
got the kppp error message to go away, and it says it's connected, but I
can't get any browsers, mial programs, ad so on to work. Is there any way to
type something in to the the console to see if it's really connected?
I conected with linuxconf, typed www.adobe.com in the Netscape address bar,
hit wnter and got two messages (BTW I get the same ones when I'm not
connected). The first one says: "Netscape Error <2> Netscape is unable to
locate the server www.adobe.com. Please check the server name and try
again.".
I know that adobe.com is valid, I go there all the time.
The one behind it says, "Netscape: Error
Warning: the following hosts are unknown:
home.netscape.com
home6.netscape.com
internic.net
This means that some or all hosts will be unreachable.
Perhaps there is a problem with your name server? If your site must use a
non-root name server, you will need to set the $SOCKS_NS environment to
piont at the appropriate name server. It may (or may not) be neccasery to
set this variable, or the SOCKS host preference, to the IP address of the
host in question rather than its name.
Consult your system Administrator."
I am running as root. Does this have anything to do with the clause about
"a non-root. name server"?
Then, if I try to use Kmail, I get this error:
Pop Mail Network Error
Account: my_account_name_here
In OPEN:
The server was not found.
I know it's there, I use it with Windows every day.
When I try to use the K news client, I get can't find and can't connect to
server messages.
Which once again leads me to the the conclusion that these programs don't
see the linuxconf or kppp connection. They just don't know it's there!
I noticed that Host Name search path is set to: Host, dns. Does that sound
OK? There is nothing under Name server specification (DNS) Is that OK?
There's nothing but the defualt localhost.locldomain under Basic host
information.
It takes linuxconf several minutes to disconnect.
Most everyting else in linuxconf is blank, except a few refernaces about
localhost.localdomain. If you to know more, let me know.
Also, when I type /etc/ppp/options I get a kwrite window that just
says"lock", that all. Is that good?
There's also nothing under user special accounts.
I've got more questions, but I'll have to write them tonight. I'd realy like
to get netscape set up right so that I'll be able to use it to test my
connection.
Chan: According to the few lines in the log window, it's connenting just
fine. Hmmm.
Thanks alot guys.
later,
JW
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From: "Douglas J. Olivier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IPchains error ?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:40:13 -0400
Yes its a paste error.
Very strange thing this same IPchains ruleset is allowing 192.168.1.1 talk
to all 192.168.1.0 but 192.168.1.4 cannot talk to anything BUT 192.168.1.1
(the router).
Paul Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7os85l$rcn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm sure this is just a typo when you pasted rc.local, but check
>
> > cho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> ^^^^^^^
>
> as I'm sure its meant to to read : echo 1 > ....
>
> Paul
>
>
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From: "Gert Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This is really bugging me.:
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:02:50 +0200
Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7orovl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi:
> I've been working with the following for a week:
> Any ideas,
> I'm sorry for the length of the message, I don't know how to use less
words
> when trying to explain this thing.
> Thanks, Andres
>
Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but when you put the Linux PC on insted of
the Cisco,
were you able to ping any of your subnets ie x.x.4.x and x.x.2.x ??
And your FW is configured to teh ping go both ways??
For me it sounds like you have not set the routing table on the NT/FW server
correct!!!
Try typeing on the command prompt on the firewall:
route add 192.168.4.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.2.y
route add 192.168.2.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.4.y
route add [CISCO-net] MASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY [C�SCO router]
Where Y=NIC.
Make sure that your IP forwarding is on the NT box.
Perhaps the problem is that you can not have more that 1 def. gw. in
NT......
Best regards
Gert
Hope it helps...
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From: Steve Masticola <badpenny@[127.0.0.1]>
Subject: Re: PPP to Shiva LanRover from Linux
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:52:02 -0400
Well, after a second serious try, I was successful in opening a
PAP-authenticated PPP connection to the LanRover. I did indeed use a
Perl script as a previous poster suggested. To save others the trouble
of writing it again, here it is.
#!/usr/bin/perl
$myname = "shiva";
$username = "<your name goes here>";
$password = $ARGV[0];
$pap_secrets = "/etc/ppp/pap-secrets";
$ENV{"PATH"} = "";
open(PAP_SECRETS, ">$pap_secrets")
|| die ("shiva: Can't open $pap_secrets for output");
print PAP_SECRETS "$username * $password\n";
close PAP_SECRETS;
system("/usr/sbin/pppd -d -detach /dev/modem 38400 user $username &");
exit 0;
To use this:
(1) Save the above script as "shiva" somewhere on your path, owned by
root, with suid enabled This is necessary so that it can overwrite
pap-secrets.
(2) Set the following options in /etc/ppp/options:
noauth
defaultroute
noipdefault
-chap
(3) Dial up the LanRover using minicom, and exit without reset.
(4) At a shell prompt, say:
shiva <passcode>
http://athena.shiva.com/prod/kbase/isdnconnectivity.html was helpful in
diagnosing some problems I ran into, although it's referring to ISDN
rather than POTS.
This is admittedly a very crude hack, and is only intended to
demonstrate that it is feasible to make the connection through the Shiva
box. Dimitri Bouras is looking at how to automate some of the login
procedure here with his excellent X-ISP application. See
http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/ .
BTW, it turns out that pppd used to have a command line option +ua that
would have eliminated the need to overwrite pap-secrets. I gather that
this was probably removed for security reasons, but it would eliminate
the need for much more dangerous practices, such as constantly diddling
with pap-secrets. If the pppd maintainers are reading this, I'd
strongly encourage them to put the +ua option in to support dynamically
changing passwords the right way.
HTH, and thanks,
- Steve.
masticol scr siemens com
@ . .
Reply address spamproofed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RTL8139 and Rx errors
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:23:52 GMT
Hello!
Right,
1) eth0 is a Realtek RTL8139 at IRQ 10 and IO 0xd0000
2) ASUS P2V-B AGP Motherboard
3) Linux kernel 2.2.15
System boots. No prob. Ftp, telnet, vnc, etc. for a while. As soon as
I "flood" the network adapter, I get no response it. With ifconfig I
notice an Rx error with the dropped counter climbing (see below). So I
deactivate eth0 with netcfg and then activate again. All okay again for
a while. I heard it could be cuz of bus mastering but this card is
supposed to be PCI 2.1 Bus master compliant and so is all 3 PCI slots
of the motherboard. No option in the CMOS for that either. *shrug*
Could it be this MII half-duplex mode? *clueless*
Any ideas appreciated. Thanks in advance
Ricardo
PS: No prob under 95 :^(
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:48:54:3C:89:C6
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
>>>> RX packets:20754 errors:2 dropped:428 overruns:2 frame:0
TX packets:1151 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:88 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd000
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:48:54:3C:89:C6
>>>> RX packets:20754 errors:2 dropped:555 overruns:2 frame:0
TX packets:1151 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
(After using netcfg to take eth0 down and bring it back up, a-ok)
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:48:54:3C:89:C6
>>>> RX packets:21842 errors:2 dropped:555 overruns:2 frame:0
>>>> TX packets:1170 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
rtl8139-diag.c:v1.01 4/30/99 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xd000.
RealTek chip registers at 0xd000
0x000: 3c544800 0000c689 80000000 00000000 9008a03c 9008a03c 9008a03c
0x020: 0381c000 0381c600 0381cc00 0381d200 02ba0000 0d0a0000 92589248
0x040: 73000400 00009c0e 47e029f8 00000000 002c1400 00000000 0000c108
0x060: 1000f00f 05e1782d 00000000 00000000 00000005 000f77c0 78fa8388
No interrupt sources are pending.
The chip configuration is 0x14 0x2c, MII half-duplex mode.
Parsing the EEPROM of a RealTek chip:
PCI IDs -- Vendor 0x10ec, Device 0x8139, Subsystem 0x10ec.
PCI timer settings -- minimum grant 32, maximum latency 64.
General purpose pins -- direction 0xe1 value 0x10.
Station Address 00:48:54:3C:89:C6.
Configuration register 0/1 -- 0x8d / 0xc2.
EEPROM active region checksum is 09e8.
The RTL8139 does not use a MII transceiver.
It does have internal MII-compatible registers:
Basic mode control register 0x782d.
Basic mode status register 0x1000.
Autonegotiation Advertisement 0x05e1.
Link Partner Ability register 0x0000.
Autonegotiation expansion 0x0000.
Disconnects 0x0000.
False carrier sense counter 0x0000.
NWay test register 0x0005.
Receive frame error count 0x0000.
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From: William Halfond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP and POP3 connection delays
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:29:50 -0400
Hello,
I have a redhat linux box running on our lan. It's setup as a mail ,
ftp and http server. However when the Win clients on the lan try to
connect to the POP3 port it takes about 2-3 minutes to negotiate the
transfer and then download messages. The same thing happens when I try
to connect using ftp. Locally (at the console) the connections function
at normal speed. Both of these services are controlled by the inetd and
are using tcpd to launch them. My httpd which is running standalone
responds in normal time (1-2 sec) to client requests. I am using
in.qpopper and wu-ftp.
Does anyone know of something I might be overlooking in my setup of
these services, or is this something I should not be bothered about?
Thanks in advance, William
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NIS/NIS+ on Linux?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:54:25 GMT
Yes, see http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/NIS-
HOWTO.html . Be sure to head to Kukuc's home page
to get the latest version of NIS+ tools and
pam_keylogin . You will have to do a lot of
compiling and tweaking by hand in order to get
your linux box running as an NIS+ client. Support
for the server end doesn't exist yet; you'll have
to keep your solaris box around to be nis+ domain
master.
Kukuc recently finished development on the
complete set of nis+ tools -- all the functions
of a solaris nis+ client should be available now
on linux. I haven't ever worked with the cross-
domain authentication bit, but if it worked on a
solaris client, it should be functional on a
linux client as well. Again, this doesn't apply
to the server; nis+ server tools aren't
functional on linux.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [[Sorry if you see this twice; I posted it to
c.o.l.dev.system yesterday
> but in retrospect I think this might be a
more appopriate group...]]
>
> Question: is NIS+ available for Linux? I have
Debian and I looked
> through the package DB and saw only NIS--is
that vanilla NIS?
>
> What I really want to know is if the NIS for
Linux requires a slave
> server on the local subnet, as the old NIS did,
or if you can config it
> to use a server that's not on your local subnet
(like NIS+ on Solaris).
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
===============================
> Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Management Development
> "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a
professional." --Mad Scientist
> ------------------------------------------------
===============================
> These are my opinions---Nortel Networks
takes no responsibility for them.
>
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