On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:28:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Chris Rodliffe wrote:
> > > *.*                                               /dev/tty12
> > > *.*                                               /var/log/messages
> > >
> > > You can keep the split up logs as well, if you like.
> >
> > OK, I'll do that.  What does the /dev/tty12 line mean though?
>
> That writes all syslog messages out to tty12.  Then you can always see
> the last 24 lines of syslog with control-alt-F12.
> >
> > Anyway, I added both lines, (though I changed the first to
> > /dev/ttyS0 which is my modem)  but still I get nothing extra between
> >
> NO!  now syslogd is trying to write a copy of the log to ttyS0.

OK!  It did seem to me, logically, that that might happen which is why 
your /tty12 reference puzzled me.   I get it now   :)

> >
> >
> > I'm a bit hazy on sendmail, all I know is Kmail's setup screen has an
> > option to choose between Sendmail and SMTP, but not both.  (I ticked
> > SMTP).
> >
> If your ISP gave you an smtp server, it probably expects a sendmail-like
> program to connect to it.  (sendmail or postfix or...)

Except, before I 'upgraded', Kmail was happily sending SMTP to 
my ISP.....

>
> > >
> > > mcookie |xargs xauth add :0 .
> >
> > the final dot is important, right?   ;-)
>
> Yep.  man xauth doesn't really bite.

It just gave me a rude message when I left the dot off    :)

> >
> > > xauth list
> >
> > I got:
> > argo/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  [alphabet soup]
> > argo:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  [different alphabet soup]
> >
> > >
> >
> > Umm, OK, the argo/unix:0   cookies are the same, the  argo:0 ones
> > are different for user and root.    (argo's my computer of course)
> >
> Hmmm.  try (as root)
> xauth -q -f /home/<user>/.Xauthority extract - argo:0|xauth merge -
> xauth list

I will, when I recover my computer (see below)

> >
> > Umm, no, and it Kppp bombs out with the same
> >
> > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
> >
> > message.
> >
> > HOWEVER, I'm running (as cr) some bastard combination of Gnome, KDE and
> > Windowmaker, and in looking around the Gnome menus I found an entry
> > (which wasn't there in my previous installation) labelled
> >
> > RH PPP Dialler
> >
> > So I clicked on it, typed in all the settings, and it worked!
> >
> > Kmail is now working exactly the same for (user) cr as it does
> > for Root, including the way it doesn't send SMTP messages.
>
> I'd try sendmail.

I've never used it, but I may give it at try if I can't sort out the 
SMTP problem.

> >
> > The /var/log/messages has virtually the same listing as before,
> > except that after the line
> >    remote IP address 210.55.13.1
> > there's another line
> >    primary DNS address 210.55.13.253
> >
> > Why RH PPP  works when Kppp won't I'm not at all sure.   According to
> > the Kppp helpfile, Kppp forks after installation, the master process
> > (GUI stuff etc) drops SUID, the slave keeps SUID and does the stuff
> that
> > needs root privs.  Maybe that's where the trouble is.
>
> If it really worked that way we wouldn't be messing with xauth.

Yep   :)

> >
> > I like Kppp, but for now I guess I'll use RH PPP, which *works*, and
> > very carefully document all settings before I change anything any
> > further.  :)
> >
> > Minicom bombs with the same messages as Kppp, by the way.  So I should
> > fix it, I guess.
> >
> HUH?  minicom doesn't need  X.  At least I have one that works from a
> console.

Yes, this is the version on X I'm referring to.  I didn't try Minicom 
from outside X.

>
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> > Sold in England, Australia, NZ and Germany but never USA
> > so far as I know.  Extremely reliable, but it's sort of
> > died now, swamped by cheap PC's.
> >
> Oh, ho!  Another Kiwi!

English actually, Kiwi by adoption.  


> >
> > Thanks, but RH PPP seems to have relieved me of that necessity  :)
> >
> > What I need to find now is how to log _all_ the ppp traffic between
> > Kmail and my ISP.
> >
> That is a kmail problem, should be in the doco for kmail.  I don't have
> enough hd space to install kde and still be able to compile Wine.  Wine
> gives me free email, so there's no contest.

It isn't in the doco, actually.  I may have to temporarily use something 
else to try and capture the log.  Or email Kmail's authors and ask.  

> >
> > ROTFL!   As a past owner and hacker of several BL cars, I understand
> > and sympathise  :)
>
> Great cars, rubber springs, Lucas electical systems, 4 inch ground
> clearance and all.  A mini is sort of a crossbreed of a motorcycle and a
> truck.

I woulda said a skateboard  :)


Now  -  Heelp!    I don't know what I screwed up, but I quit from Linux 
(in the proper way) and trying to start Linux up again, it got as far as 
'starting service atd'  and hung.  Three times.

I tried 'interactive login' and skipping atd, but any of the succeeding 
services - crond, pcmcia etc - would hang too.  

I tried bypassing them all, but then it wouldn't let me log in but 
hung on password entry (not surprising really, since I guess one of 
those services does passwords).

I tried running the cdrom in 'rescue' mode, with a view to seeing if 
replacing the files would fix it, the problem then is identifying 
which of the rpm's have the required files 
(rpm -qlp /Redhat/RPMS/*.rpm > fred   gives a file showing all file 
destinations but not which rpm they're in,  sometimes the place they 
go helps you guess the rpm names)

What is a bigger problem is that 
   rpm  -ivh  <path>/at-<version>.rpm
just gives a message 
   error: cannot open /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm

and this is true, because rescue mode gives a list of most 
directories but not  /var.


All I can think of now is a complete reinstall of RH6.2....
which may be not without its own problems in persuading it
to 'replace' the right bits of software.

This has never happened to me before   :(

Chris


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