On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Glenn McGrath wrote:
Hi,
> I think one of the biggest problems with the howto, is that there are two
> versions of it.
>
> Places like linuxdoc.org and linux.com and metalab.unc.edu all have have the
> old version last updated in 98
>
> I guess this is partly a necessity due to current duality in raid versions
> in use.
>
> A lot of people probably read the old software raid HOWTO and dont realise
> it was targeted at the old version of raid, not the v0.9 stuff.
Mmm... although difficult (it states the targeted versions right
in the abstract, and even utilities have different names) this is
possible...
> Has anyone aproached linuxdoc.org (i think they a supposed to be the offical
> place for howto's?) to try and get them to add the new software raid howto ?
>
> They could carry both and refer to them via the verison numbers, or even as
> the old-software-raid -howto and the new-software-raid-howto.
>
> It would be even better if each of the HOWTO refered to the existance of the
> other
>
> What do you all think, should someone (i could do it if you want) lobby a
> few sites and try and get the new howto onto a few sites.
I guess Jakob have already done that... I run the Howto portion of
the Spanish LDP (www.isnflug.org), and have only Jakob's version
translated; the other raid version is history, although I guess it dives
more into dry technical theory... When people have asked me, I answered to
read the ol' one just for dry technical aspects, and excellent Jakob's one
(maybe it's a little outdated regarding actual capabilities, but hey, raid
evolves sooo fast... those appeared just a couple weeks ago!) for actual
hands-on details.
I could also (although I guess it must be Jakob) talk with them.
The Howto coordinator is Joshua Drake, aka Mr. Poet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Greg Ferguson, from SGI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) manages the
link resources, I guess. They must be pretty busy, so maybe an email to
both will be wise.
Another solution is that raidtools, when old md support is
detected, issue a clear-like-water message like:
---
You're running the OLD kernel raid code. This utiliyu is intended for the
(not included in stock kernel) NEW raid support. Go check
ftp://ftp.fi.kernel.org/pub/linux/daemons/raid/alpha for the latest kernel
patches, and hurry to http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/ to
learn how to master it.
---
I guess a pretty differentiate, sounding name to the newer utils/patches
may help also (or maybe be worst?). raidutils/raidtools are different, but
not enough for the hurry-to-have-things-done stressed people, and that
could put them off the beam. Something like BNR-Tools (BrandNewRaid Tools)
or RAR Tools (Raidtools Aren't Raidutils) or something cleverer than that,
you get the idea.
> I think Software RAID is one of the most powerfull yet underutilised
> features of linux. Maybe one day we will get 0.9 in the kernel, have lilo
> supporting all raid modes, one version of the HOWTO, and all linux users
> will be root RAIDing on the default installation.....
Yeah... I have done both HW and SW raid, and with the latest
features, the only gap between them (easy full system mirroring and such)
is dissapearing. And I found this SW one to be far superior in terms of
flexibility; performance is better for SW raid for *most* situations...
> Well, anyway, i tend to ramble on a bit, antone agree with me about the
> docs?
Let's hear what Mr. �stergaard have to say first...
greetings,
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