Linux-Setup Digest #992, Volume #18 Sun, 25 Jun 00 14:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: Executables aren't executing (Michael Nadler)
setting up loopback problem (Denis Sevee)
Re: system hangs at LI after boot up (Michael Nadler)
Re: VNC setup question (David Efflandt)
Re: RedHat 6.2 won't install... (P.T.Gowadia)
Configuration of sound card yamaha724 (linux6.0) (Vemu.Anjaneyulu)
Re: How to ftp install linux (John P White)
Re: changing the /root directory location ("Kurt Weber")
Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Re: Linux only seeng half my RAM on Abit BP6 (Andy Kinsey)
Re: Name for an external SCSI HD(MkLinux DR3) (Craig Kelley)
Re: changing the /root directory location ("Jeremy Low")
Re: Remote X login to linux server ??? ("Jeremy Low")
Re: setting up loopback problem (Craig Kelley)
Re: changing the /root directory location (J Bland)
Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!! (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Can't access CD, but root can. (Tyler Durden)
Re: System Continually Re-boots When Trying To Install Corel Linux (Jim Jones)
Re: changing the /root directory location (Tyler Durden)
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From: Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Executables aren't executing
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:11:05 -0700
To add to both previous posts, also check the PATH environment variable:
echo $PATH
This variable tells the shell interpreter in which directories to look for
files. Often, for security reasons, the current directory (".") is not in the
PATH. That why you see people habitually typing "./program".
Another fine point. Given that the program is executable,
program
and
. program
are not exactly the same. In the first case, a new sub-shell is spawned in
which to execute the program. When the program exits, the sub-shell vanishes,
leaving the original shell unchanged. In the second case, no new sub-shell is
spawned. Any environment changes made by the program will be retained when the
program exits. Thus, you can change your ".profile" file and then change your
environment, without logging out, via:
. .profile [assuming . is in your PATH!]
otherwise, it's
. ./.profile [lots of dots!]
J Bland wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:56:53 GMT, Nicholas Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >./'program'
>
> To clarify a little:
>
> do an 'ls -l' on the files on question.
>
> You need to have executable permissions on a file for it to execute eg
>
> -rwxr-xr-x the x's show that the user, group and anyone else can run the
> command as ./filename etc.
>
> Script files can also be run with
>
> . scriptfile
>
> If you know a file should be an executable but it doesn't have the correct
> permissions then
>
> chmod +x filename
>
> will set them.
>
> Also, with most distros a standard 'ls' will highlight executable files in a
> particular colour (directories in another colour etc).
>
> If it still doesn't run you're doing something wrong.
>
> JB
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From: Denis Sevee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up loopback problem
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:19:36 -0400
This is probably a dumb question but:
I'm trying to set up loopback on my Linux system by following the
steps outlined in a couple of books.
(1) I have the line: 127.0.0.1 localhost in my /etc/hosts file
(2) I then do: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1.
(3) I then do: route add localhost
At this point I get an error saying: unknown device SIOADDRT
I can't find any info as to what this error means and how to fix it.
Can anybody help me.
Thanks,
denis sevee
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From: Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system hangs at LI after boot up
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:17:09 -0700
Read http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/kgw_lilo_errmsg.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I am a new linux user. I have a system with two hard drives. After I
> installed red hat linux 6.2 on disk2 over windows NT 4.0 which is on disk
> 1 when the system reboots, it hangs with message "verifying DMI pool
> data" "LI". Now I am unable to load NT too. Need help. Thanks.
>
> Yousuf
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: VNC setup question
Date: 25 Jun 2000 16:18:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:41:26 GMT, T.T. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, after I read the vnc FAQ on this web page:
>http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q20
>
>I noticed that:
>"The window manager is started by the ~/.vnc/xstartup script. We use
>twm, as this is available on almost all Unix platforms. Edit the script
>if you'd rather replace it with something else. On many platforms you
>can, as an alternative, just make xstartup a link to whatever script
>normally starts your X environment."
>
>But I don't like twm as it is too simple. I would like to have
>enlightment or Gnome as the default. I tried to copy startx script to
>replace the xstartup script, but it didn't work.. how do I change the
>xstartup script so that after I connection to my linux box (using vnc
>client on my Win98), it will look EXACTLY the same as what I see on X
>terminal? Thanks!
>
>--
>If possible, please cc me a copy of your reply! Thanks!
This is what I did in xstartup to change the background to a more pleasing
color and run enlightenment. In RedHat 6.1 this resulted in a solid color
background and in Mandrake 7.0, this resulted in a slateblue theme with
marbled background and fancy windows. Note that if you play sounds they
will play on the server and not on the client.
#!/bin/sh
xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
# xsetroot -solid grey
xsetroot -solid slateblue
xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -r -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
# twm &
enlightenment &
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David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: P.T.Gowadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 won't install...
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:30:02 GMT
-=JgS=- wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have 3 partitions on my 30Gb hdd. One 22Gb (Win98, primary
> partition), a 8Gb extended partition which is splitted into 5Gb and
> 3Gb. The 3Gb (a logical partition in the extended partition) is where
> I would like to install RedHat Linux 6.2. Is this possible? Linux
> finds all 3 partitions but it won't install. Can't I install it on a
> logical partition in the extended partition? Or can you only install
> on a primary or extended partition?
> God damn that was hard to explain....hope someone understood ;-)
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Joakim Storrank
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----------------------------------------------------
> If you want to email me, please remove the
> command i.hate.spam after my email address.
> -----------------------------------------------------
This is just a sugestion,try it if you can.Run the installation of Red Hat
6.2.When it asks you what kind of installation do you want,select
custom.The next screen will most probably be(It was, in Red Hat 6.1)the
Disk Druid partitioning program,a GUI based partitioning tool.It will list
all your existing partitions.Mark the one that you want to make into a
Linux partition and click "Edit".Then make its mount point '/'(root) and
its type as "Linux native".Then click "OK".I would also suggest that if
there is some free space left(16M),then to add a "/boot" partition as
suggested by Red Hat.
Of course,by choosing a custom install,you will have to reply to many
questions such as which packages to install,etc.So read up first, or
better still have a friend knowing Linux nearby.
Do reply if you can follow my tips and if they work.Linux is a great Os
and so I also wish you "Welcome to the Team".
Have a nice day.
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From: Vemu.Anjaneyulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuration of sound card yamaha724 (linux6.0)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:30:03 GMT
hi sir,
I,v.anjaneyulu,am having problem with sound configuration.
previously i had redht linux 6.0 installed on my system(celeron-433,64mb
ram),but i couldn't config sound.my friend told me to install redhat6.2.
i installed 6.2 and tried sndconfig.it detected the pci device
Yamaha Card
model:-Yamaha corporation| YMF-724F[ds-1 audio controller]
but later it flashed that this card not supported
it told to visit [EMAIL PROTECTED],but i couldn't
please suggest me how to play music.
one more problem:the graphics are not so sharp compared to my friend
comp.
kindly suggest me what to do?
thanking you.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: John P White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to ftp install linux
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:33:38 -0400
a small version of slackware called zipslack.
john
Vilmos Soti wrote:
> John P White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have a p-100 16 megs,1.2 gig hd. It has some ethernet card in it(i
> > dont know what brand). Im trying to figure out the best way to get Linux
> > onto my computer. I thought I could find a boot disk with just enough
> > drivers on it for me to get my nic installed, and then use ftp to dl the
>
> You can ftp install most distributions. Which one do you want to install?
>
> Vilmos
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From: "Kurt Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:54:44 -0500
"Jeremy Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> anyone has any idea how I may change the location of my /root directory to
a
> different location ( from one partition to another yet maintaining the
name
> as /root )
>
> thanx :-)
>
>
>
>
mkdir /root (if /root does not exist)
mount /dev/whatever_partition_you_wish_to_use /root
--
Regards,
Kurt Weber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ROW Software and Web Design
http://www.rowsw.com
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:00:09 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This employment offer that you present lacks credibility.
A few reasons for this opinion are:
You use of the term "peecee" for the common computer term "PC" (Personal
Computer) this may be the result of lack of experince in the computer field,
OR you are attempting to present yourself as different persona then your
true identity.
There is a Hollywood, Florida near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, your wording of
the locations makes it seem as though you are trying to appear less familiar
with the area than you in fact may be.
Then there is the ISP factor. Someone with a less than critical eye may
read your offer and think that you are located in Florida. However, I
believe you are located in the New York state in or near New York City.
Your email address is from Netmonger Communications, which is a small ISP
based in Bellmore NewYork. Netmonger Communications is so small or starved
for resources that it not able to provide a second authortive DNS server on
its own hosts. It's second authoritive DNS server is a DNS server run on a
host of Telecon Communications/Superior Net. Telecon Communications/Superior
Net is another ISP based in New York, in this case Johnstown New York.
However, you didn't connect to the internet through either of those ISP's.
Your connection was established through a third ISP located in New York
City, by the name of PANIX Public Access Networks Corporation. This ISP has
local dialup numbers for New York City, some other areas in New York outside
of New York City, and some area of New Jersey as well.
Your offer specifies Debian for your Linux distribution, you have
crossposted your offer into three Linux newsgroups but into none of the
debian specific newsgroups. Also since you are seeking professional and/or
expert support, there are newsgroups where you can advertise for the
services of computer consultants, you also did not crosspost into those
newsgroups either.
There is one more thing that can cause someone to doubt your offer's
credibility. This offer of yours is the only usenet newsgroup posting you
have made to date with this identity. This makes it appear that you may
have just created this on-line identity of [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the purpose
to make this one offer, perhaps for some ulterior motive.
These are some of the reasons that I find your offer to not be credible.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8j4e4c$q2k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> We have need of a person who can install Debian on an IBM Aptiva peecee.
> This is a one shot install. The peecee is in a place called something
like
> "Hollywood", which is near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Old News Reader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Andy Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux only seeng half my RAM on Abit BP6
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:25:34 -0400
Matthew McCleary wrote:
> Has anyone had problems getting the Abit BP6 to see all the installed RAM? I
> have a single 128MB stick installed, but Linux (RH 6.2) only sees 64 MB of
> that. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Matthew,
try going into linuxconf (as root, of course). Under "boot mode" is a section
called "LILO defaults". Under Extra Options is a section called boot options.
Add the "mem=128M" line there. I believe you need to add the quotes also. After
I did this, Linux saw 128 meg of RAM. You can check this by typing the
following from a prompt:
dmesg | more
Hope this helps more than "RTFM"....
Andy
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Subject: Re: Name for an external SCSI HD(MkLinux DR3)
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Jun 2000 11:20:10 -0600
Robert Seidl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a Mac PPC 6100 (700mb HD, 72mb RAM, 266 mhz w/G3 processor
> upgrade) and I want to use MkLinuxDR3 on my external SCSI HD (8.5gigHD.)
> I am wondering what the rootdev= line in the MkLinux CP should say. I
> tried /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda0 but an error occurred and the Linux
> installer won't start. Should the rootdev= line say the HD that the mach
> servers are on? And what should the line say?
sd??
^^^^
||||
|||\__ Partition number (1-n)
||\___ SCSI device identification (lettered a-?)
|\____ "disk"
\_____ "SCSI"
So, the first partition on the external drive is *probably* /dev/sdb1
(but it depends on how many SCSI controllers you have [the 6100 only
has hone] and what drive IDs you are using [the 6100 came with an
internal drive using ID 0]).
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Jeremy Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,sg.linux
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:23:35 +0800
is the "somewhere" in "/somewhere/root" the a device location (eg
/dev/hdax ) ???
J Bland wrote in message ...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:58:00 +0800, Jeremy Low <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>anyone has any idea how I may change the location of my /root directory to
a
>different location ( from one partition to another yet maintaining the name
>as /root )
Yep, change the location in /etc/passwd
eg
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
to
root:x:0:0:root:/somewhere/root:/bin/bash
But make sure the other location is accessable etc before doing it (test it
with a non root account first).
It shouldn't be disastrous if it doesn't work but you never know.
Frinky
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From: "Jeremy Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,sg.linux
Subject: Re: Remote X login to linux server ???
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:25:59 +0800
Do I have to telnet in first before I can use vnc ???
David Efflandt wrote in message ...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:56:15 +0800, Jeremy Low <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Anyone has any idea how I may do a remote X login to a linux server from a
>windoz box. I wish to see the same X login display like I am in front of a
>linux terminal presenting to me an X login.
I guess I have never seen an X login screen because I boot into runlevel
3. VNC can allow you to run an X server remotely from most any OS or
control Win from X. The vncserver is run in the background and can be
accessed (password protected) on the same or different box using a
vncviewer or any Java capable web browser. The default window manager is
twm, but I use it wih enlightenment. Haven't tried it with KDE yet.
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
Other X servers would likely cost you money and would run X programs just
like you would from another Linux box. But the only login screen you
would get is when you telnet or ssh into the shell to start the Linux X
program.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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Subject: Re: setting up loopback problem
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Jun 2000 11:24:48 -0600
Denis Sevee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is probably a dumb question but:
> I'm trying to set up loopback on my Linux system by following the
> steps outlined in a couple of books.
> (1) I have the line: 127.0.0.1 localhost in my /etc/hosts file
> (2) I then do: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1.
> (3) I then do: route add localhost
> At this point I get an error saying: unknown device SIOADDRT
>
> I can't find any info as to what this error means and how to fix it.
> Can anybody help me.
Do you have loopback support included in your kernel?
Can you `insmod lo` as the root user?
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,sg.linux
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: 25 Jun 2000 17:30:06 GMT
>is the "somewhere" in "/somewhere/root" the a device location (eg
>/dev/hdax ) ???
/somewhere is where you've mounted this other partition you want to put
/root on. Or you can do what someone else suggested and just mount it onto
the existing /root
eg
mount /dev/hda4 /somewhere/
mkdir /somewhere/root
or
mount /dev/hda4 /root
But the second one will mount the new partition over whatever's in your
existing /root directory.
Frinky
ps. post replys below the quoted text, almost didn't spot what you said.
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:34:12 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You running order is the same as mine. Right? Did u got the same
> problem? thans! I use Red hat 6.2. what about you?
>
The order's just a little different if you look at it closely. For
example, I do the 'clean' before the 'dep'. You do the clean after the
dep. And (for whatever reason) my kernel builds clean and I can run it
fine on RH 6.2.
If it's not the ordering, then I'm stumped. Are you sure it compiles
cleanly?
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't access CD, but root can.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:47:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have two IDE cdrom's in my machine as /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1.
> When I put a music CD in /dev/cdrom1 when logged in as root, it plays
> fine. When I try it as my normal user I get a permission denied. The
> permission on /dev/hdc is brw------- and the permission on /dev/hdd is
> brw-rw----. I've run linuxconf and set the User mountable checkbox but
> it still doesn't work.
>
> I'm new to linux and don't really know the details of what this means.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction.
>
> Thank You
open up /etc/security/console.perms, find the line that starts with
<cdrom>,
and add "/dev/cdrom1" to the end of it. if /dev/cdrom isn't on that
line, add it too. entries are separated by spaces. so the line should
read:
<cdrom>=/dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom1
or it can be
<cdrom>=/dev/cdrom*
it can even be
<cdrom>=/dev/cdrom[0-1]
if you don't have a <cdrom> line, add it in the "device classes"
section.
hope this helps.
--tyler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Jones)
Subject: Re: System Continually Re-boots When Trying To Install Corel Linux
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:59:03 GMT
John,
The same exact thing happened to me, and the same thing was suggested
by Corel Linux tech support, to fix the problem.
On my Abit m/b, I have 2 regular ide ports and 2 Ultra ports.
Sure enough, it began to do it's thing, after I moved the new drive
to the ide port.
But, not until they sent me the 1.1 version to replace my 1.0
version, which didn't like my Diamond Stealth AGP.
jj
On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:30:06 GMT, Johnny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi! Some people tend to get their shorts bundled and act arrogant...This
>usually means that they are younger and prefer to make you look stupid...
>
> I had the same problem...Exactly! I was running my ata66 drive through
>an ata66 controller card (Mass storage device) and always got the same
>problem as you...Then I ran my drive directly into the board (Primary IDE)
>and Wha-la...It started loading. Unfortunately a whole list of other
>problems came up later...But this immediate problem was solved by
>bypassing my controller card...Hope was of some help..John
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
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From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:01:05 GMT
Jeremy Low wrote:
>
> anyone has any idea how I may change the location of my /root directory to a
> different location ( from one partition to another yet maintaining the name
> as /root )
>
> thanx :-)
two relatively easy ways to do this.
the first is to physically move your /root directory to another
partition and make /root a link to the new location. i.e.if /usr was on
a separate partition, you could move /root to /usr/root and have /root
point to /usr/root.
the other way will maintain a /root directory (not as a link) but is
slightly more involved. you can make a new partition and assign it to
/root in /etc/fstab. so you'd first make the partition, say hda8; mount
it in a temporary directory, i.e. mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/newroot; move the
/root directory to the new partition, mv /root /mnt/newroot; unmount the
new partition /mnt/newroot; edit /etc/fstab and add the new partition
with the mount point as /root and the proper options (defaults should be
fine), and remount the partition, this time in /root. thusly you will
have moved /root to a new partition while maintaining its location in
the directory tree.
--tyler
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