Linux-Setup Digest #218, Volume #19 Fri, 21 Jul 00 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is data on old partitions kept in new installations? (Nathan Davis)
Re: free isp (Lorin Winchester)
Re: Linux for an i 386 (mst)
Re: Partition advice ("Gary")
KeyError while installing RedHat 6.2 from hard disk (Roy Varghese)
Re: KeyError while installing RedHat 6.2 from hard disk (The Contact)
Re: Adding a new hard drive (Mark)
Need help with setting up NFS for a networked PC. (Madhusudan Singh)
Re: Sendmail slowing down startup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RH6.1 compat. with agp + other hware (Rodney Loisel)
Re: Need help with setting up NFS for a networked PC. (Dances With Crows)
Re: Where's current configuration (newbie) (Tom Adams)
Cron help ("Boyd Teders")
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From: Nathan Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is data on old partitions kept in new installations?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:51:50 -0500
Phil wrote:
>
> Ok, I have very little important information on my computer, but there
> is some. Now when I first installed linux, I had the mind to put
> things on separate partitions, logical ones.
>
> If I were to re-install over my old installation using nothing but the
> rhat 6.1 cd and I keep the 1 partition where the data I want to save
> is and delete and replace all the others...will that data still be
> there after the install is done or will it be cleared? Assume I
> currently have no access to anything, can it be done just using the
> red hat cd? tia
> phil
Well, assuming to have access to nothing but the CD, I would check the
manuals that came with the CD. That's assuming you bought the official
RH CD, of course. But then assuming you have access only to the CD,
there is no reason for me to write this there?
Well, assuming it is within your means to read this message, then I'll
assume that even if you don't have the afore mentioned manuals, that it
is within your means to go to a web site. Maybe www.redhat.com?
To answer your question, there should be no problem installing RH and
keeping a particular partition. However, be a little careful. I would
suggest that you don't tell the install program that you want to mount
that partition, and add the partition to fstab after the install. This
will ensure that the partition won't get reformatted.
You could also do an upgrade, instead of an install, in which case
nothing should get reformatted unless you tell it to reformat it.
--Nathan Davis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lorin Winchester)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: free isp
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove .ORG)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:10:16 -0500
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:17:18 -0400, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know of another free isp for linux?
Worldshare. (http://www.worldshare.com/new/index.htm)
--
Registered Linux User 182034
5:06pm up 1 day, 21:32, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.20, 0.14
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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for an i 386
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:27:47 -0400
Mary P wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:28:09 -0500, Jane Seidl
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are there any distributions of Linux that I can use on my old IBM PS/1 386sx
> >2mb RAM 80mb HDD?
> >If so, where can I download it?
>
> Jane,
> I am working on a similar project with a little bigger system
> so I can experiment with Linux without wrecking the way I have it
> set up on my "real" computer. I've checked out www.slackware.com
> and under Install they say the minimum requirements are a 386 with
> 16 mb RAM, a 50 mb HD, and a 3.5 floppy drive.
>
> Nonetheless, elsewhere on the site they have a bootdisk you can
> download for use on systems with <8 mb RAM, so there must be some
> way to get that running.
> (..)
>
Here's a word of advice from a Slackware user: you can run it (including
the current version 7.1) in as little as 4M RAM, but definitely not in
2M. The zipslack distribution, that comes standard on the Slackware
CDROMs, is a trimmed-down version of Slack designed to be installed on a
zip100 disk (it actually takes about 82M), but is UMSDOS-based, i.e.
installs on a fat16 filesystem. However, it's proof that you can get a
fully functional system, complete with development tools (but no X) in
as little as 80M. By using the classic Slackware installer in expert
mode you can select individual packages, so you can leave out everything
you don't absolutely need.
Once again: it can be done, but only if you get a total of 4M RAM in the
machine. Have a look at the package list in zipslack so you have an idea
about what to install. Get it here:
ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-7.1
I would recommend that you read the /zipslack/fourmeg.README, since it
describes a trick used to run Slack in as little as 4M RAM.
NB: the installation process will take a _long_ time (it took me 5h to
install on a 486dx50 with 40M RAM, but then I selected almost everything
I could fit on a 700M disk).
MST
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From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition advice
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:35:26 +0100
Hi Norman ,
Thanks for the info I'm sure it'll come in handy. Are you sure about /boot
being hda1? My manual says OSes other than Linux should take up the
beginning of the disk.
Regards,
Gary
"Norman Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I just recently installed Linux and Windows 95 (1996 version) on a new
13gb
> > disk.
> >
> > I'm planning to re-partition the drive before I do all the work of
setting
> > up Linux(SuSE). Please could I have some feedback and opinions about my
> > planned partitioning.
> >
> > My current partition table is :
> > hda1 - 1 - 255 - 2048256 - 6 - dos primary
> > hda2 - 256 - 1653 - 11229435 - 5 - extended
> > hda5 - 256 - 256 - 8001 - 83 - linux
native(boot)
> > hda6 - 257 - 1643 - 11141046 - 83 - linux native(root)
> > hda7 - 1644 - 1653 - 80293 - 82 - linux swap
> >
> > My planned partition table is :
> > hda1 - 1 - 153 - 1228941 - 6 - dos primary
> > hda2 - 154 - 1653 - 12048750 - 5 - extended
> > hda5 - 154 - 408 - 2048256 - 6 - dos
> > hda6 - 409 - 663 - 2048256 - 6 - dos
> > hda7 - 664 - 676 - 104391 - 82 - linux swap
> > hda8 - 677 - 680 - 32098 - 83 - linux
native(boot)
> > hda9 - 681 - 1653 - 7815591 - 83 - linux native(root)
> >
> I am not sure why you want 3 dos partitions, but if it makes sense to you,
I would make
> them all primary. That way, your dos junk is hda1/2/3 and with your
extended partition,
> all your linux stuff starts from hda5 and up. Just seems a bit more
aesthetically pleasing.
> Next, I would place /boot as the first, lowest cylinder number partition.
Again, this is
> just good housekeeping should you move to a larger disk and you want your
dos partitions to
> be larger. (In fact, there is nothing wrong with having /boot as hda1,
but that would also
> mess up the 'numbering' scheme.
> --
> Norman (one persons misguided advice) Levin
>
>
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From: Roy Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KeyError while installing RedHat 6.2 from hard disk
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:28:06 GMT
I am also getting the following error when I try to install Redhat 6.2
off my hard disk. The error pops up after the install program asks
questions about the network. It says its "Reading Packages", when it
fails. I blew away the entire RPMS, base and instimage subdirectories
and downloaded it fresh from ftp.redhat.com but still get the same
error.
Exception Occurred
File "/usr/bin/anaconda.real", Line 342 in ?
intl.run(todo, test = test )
....(lists a whole bunch of traces)
File "/usr/lib/anaconda/comps.py", line 46 in __getitem__
return self.packages[item]
KeyError: indexhtml
My troubleshooting efforts so far..
- checked that "indexhtml" RPM exists in RPMS dir, and even downloaded
it again just to be sure
- tried deleting "indexhtml" RPM, still get same error
- made sure there arent any files other than RPM in the RPMS directory.
- removed all "ls-l" files from all RPMS and base directories
- downloaded complete "instimage" directory from Redhat ftp site.
- installed Redhat 5.2 and tried the Upgrade option instead of a Custom
Install, but it still fails at the same point.
What should I do now ? Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Roy
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KeyError while installing RedHat 6.2 from hard disk
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:53:57 GMT
Roy Varghese wrote:
>
> I am also getting the following error when I try to install Redhat 6.2
> off my hard disk. The error pops up after the install program asks
> questions about the network. It says its "Reading Packages", when it
> fails. I blew away the entire RPMS, base and instimage subdirectories
> and downloaded it fresh from ftp.redhat.com but still get the same
> error.
>
> Exception Occurred
>
> File "/usr/bin/anaconda.real", Line 342 in ?
> intl.run(todo, test = test )
>
> ....(lists a whole bunch of traces)
>
> File "/usr/lib/anaconda/comps.py", line 46 in __getitem__
> return self.packages[item]
> KeyError: indexhtml
>
> My troubleshooting efforts so far..
> - checked that "indexhtml" RPM exists in RPMS dir, and even downloaded
> it again just to be sure
> - tried deleting "indexhtml" RPM, still get same error
> - made sure there arent any files other than RPM in the RPMS directory.
> - removed all "ls-l" files from all RPMS and base directories
> - downloaded complete "instimage" directory from Redhat ftp site.
> - installed Redhat 5.2 and tried the Upgrade option instead of a Custom
> Install, but it still fails at the same point.
>
> What should I do now ? Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.
There were problems with anaconda. You should use the new one. See
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHBA-2000015-01.html
--
The Contact
"Knowing everything is impossible. Trying to is not."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: Adding a new hard drive
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:05:33 GMT
your idea seems very good
so a few points if you use a linux fdisk to remove your old partitions
(when your done with them) and a dos fdisk to add a new (single
partition) then format you should be fine.
cp -a as root should be fine but see
Linux-mini-HOWTOs/Hard-Disk-Upgrade
it can save you a lot of grief
mark
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:17:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I posted this yesterday, but it appears that there
>is a problem with Motorola's newsserver. My
>original post has not shown up on the Deja yet, so
>I'm reposting it here.
>
>I'm planning on adding a second hard drive to my
>computer soon. My
>current drive has a win98 partition, three native
>linux partitions,
>and a linux swap partition. My plan is to devote
>the second hard
>drive to linux and reclaim all the linux
>partitions on the first drive
>for windows. Here's my plan:
>
>1) Add the new drive and boot into linux.
>2) Use Mandrake's DiskDrak tool to partition and
>format the new
> drive.
>4) Edit the /etc/lilo.conf file to add a bootable
>entry on the second
> hard drive.
>3) Rerun lilo to update the boot sector.
>4) Boot into linux on the first drive and copy all
>my existing linux
> data from the first drive to the second drive.
>5) Boot into linux on the second drive to insure
>that everything
> works.
>6) Boot into DOS and use FDISK to reformat the
>linux partitions as a
> DOS partition.
>
>I have a few questions here. First, is this a
>reasonable scenario of
>events? Am I overlooking any gotchas? Has anyone
>done this and can
>give me some pointers? Particularly, I have these
>questions:
>
>Will DOS see my Linux partitions on the first
>drive, or do I need to
>delete the ext2 partitions using a linux tool
>(fdisk, diskdrak, etc.)?
>
>Is cp a sufficient way to do this? I'm wondering
>if there will be
>references to the first drive on the second
>drive. If cp is a good
>way to do this, what options should I use to
>insure that all my data
>is mirrored to the second drive? Should I just
>reinstall?
>
>If anyone has done this recently, I'd love to hear
>about the
>experience, and anything that may have went wrong.
>
>Thanks a lot,
>Aaron
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Need help with setting up NFS for a networked PC.
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:27:31 +0000
Hello,
I recently installed RH Linux 6.2 on my office PC. The PC is
networked through LAN. I tried to create an NFS link to one of the
servers using linuxconf. The settings are :
1. Server cello.eecs.umich.edu.
2. Volume /z (all accounts on cello.eecs.umich.edu are of the type
/z/userxxx).
3. Mount point /nfs/cello.
4. Read only, user mountable and mountable by device owner. NFS options
- background mount. Misc options - none.
When I cd to /nfs/cello and do a listing, all the user names on
cello.eecs.umich.edu appear (meaning that the mount is at least
partially succesful).
However, what I want is that a particular user on my system (same user
id on cello.eecs.umich.edu too) should be able to access his files
through a simple cd or cp (as against an ftp or telnet). Security would
demand that he not be able to snoop into other user directories on
cello.eecs.umich.edu.
Right now, there is nothing in the setup (or so I imagine) that can do
this. In any case, when I cd to /nfs/cello/userxxx and do an ls, I get a
(partially expected) null listing.
How do I set up NFS properly ? As you may guess, I am a relative rookie.
Thanks in advance,
Madhusudan Singh.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sendmail slowing down startup
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:22:49 GMT
In article <fFdd5.397
$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the most typical reasons for this -
RedHat gives you a retarded
> /etc/hosts file
>
> Change silly /etc/hosts:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
mymachine.somedomain.org mymachine
>
> to a 'correct' etc/hosts:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 192.168.0.1 mymachine.somedomain.org mymachine
>
> (of course replace 192.168.0.1 and real machine
name accordingly)
> Dogbert Dilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
A newbie question:
What do I use for for my domain name? My ISP
is worldnet.att.net but when I'm booting Limux,
my machine is simply 'kashgar' or possibly
'kashgar.localdomain'.
Thanks,
Wes
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Before you buy.
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From: Rodney Loisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.1 compat. with agp + other hware
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:52:56 -0400
Have decided to try Linux again... (I worked on it for 6 months last
year
RH5.1 and many things just didn't work).Today I bought 'Red Hat Linux
for
dummies' - I apparently fall into that catagory since I only have 14
years
computer experience (mostly Amiga)...
Pentium II 233
recent new hardware:
AGP 3dfx Voodoo3
SB PCI 512
(are these supported ?)
HP 722c Is this supported yet? It took me a couple of
months to get a ppa - ghostscript partially working last
time.
don't know what the modem is but I'm open to buying
a new one - recommendation?
Has the support for CDRW drives improved? I have an
HP 8100.
My UMax scanner is on a 'dedicated' scsi card. Is that
an issue when compiling the kernal?
The partition I had Redhat on last time is at present an unused
partition (VFat32). Do I need to delete or reformat that partition
or will the installation program on the CD that came with the
book take care of that?
Sorry for all the questions but all the folks that encouraged me
to get Linux have left town with no forwarding addresses...
I want this to work out 'cuz my Amiga is about to quit on me.
Any help appreciated.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with setting up NFS for a networked PC.
Date: 22 Jul 2000 00:25:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:27:31 +0000, Madhusudan Singh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed RH Linux 6.2 on my office PC. The PC is
>networked through LAN. I tried to create an NFS link to one of the
>servers using linuxconf. The settings are :
>1. Server cello.eecs.umich.edu.
>2. Volume /z (all accounts on cello.eecs.umich.edu are of the type
>/z/userxxx).
>3. Mount point /nfs/cello.
>4. Read only, user mountable and mountable by device owner. NFS options
>- background mount. Misc options - none.
>
>When I cd to /nfs/cello and do a listing, all the user names on
>cello.eecs.umich.edu appear (meaning that the mount is at least
>partially succesful).
>
>However, what I want is that a particular user on my system (same user
>id on cello.eecs.umich.edu too) should be able to access his files
>through a simple cd or cp (as against an ftp or telnet). Security would
>demand that he not be able to snoop into other user directories on
>cello.eecs.umich.edu.
>
>Right now, there is nothing in the setup (or so I imagine) that can do
>this. In any case, when I cd to /nfs/cello/userxxx and do an ls, I get a
>(partially expected) null listing.
What's /etc/exports on cello look like? Linuxconf may have done all
sorts of weird things to it; having the raw data could be helpful. I'd
think you'd want to have the file look like so:
#/etc/exports on cello
/z *.eecs.umich.edu(ro,map_daemon)
# other lines...
Change ro to rw if you want to allow write access too, but you might
want to leave map_daemon in there just in case the UIDs get out of sync
between/among your machines. Also, when/if a remote root user tries to
access files on /z , his UID will be mapped to "nobody", which will give
him pretty much zero privileges and might lead to the symptoms you
describe above if you tested this out as root. You can change this
behavior by adding no_root_squash to the ()ed line above, but you really
shouldn't do that.
If your UID on the remote host is, say, "bob", you should be able to
mount /nfs/cello, cd /nfs/cello/bob, and do an ls to see every file in
the directory.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin/ That which does not kill us
http://www.brainbench.com / makes us stranger.
============================/ ==Trevor Goodchild
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From: Tom Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Where's current configuration (newbie)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:35:31 GMT
Thanks, Kevin.
I don't have .configure, but I'll experiment with make config.
Tom Adams
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From: "Boyd Teders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cron help
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:48:56 -0700
I am running Red Hat 6.0 on one machine and 6.1 on another. I am trying to
set a cron job to run. The text from the entry is below...
30 16 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s 192.5.41.40
My plan was to have this job synchronize the time every day. But it does not
run. Am I doing some thing wrong. Could I do this differently? Any ideas
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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