Linux-Setup Digest #229, Volume #19 Sun, 23 Jul 00 22:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: New Slackware install trashes HD (Bit Twister)
Modem Queston ("ThomE")
jetdirect print server problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Soundcard Problems. (Alex Chudnovsky)
kernel compile issues (J. Roe)
Two Linux questions ("Richard Arts")
Re: what Pop3 servers are the best ("Andrew Kenna")
Re: kernel compile issues ("Michael Perry")
Re: winmodems & duel monitors (Michel Catudal)
Re: kernel compile issues (Zebee Johnstone)
Re: winmodems & duel monitors ("Robp2001")
Booting from 1.68MB floppy (root)
One perl script works, others don't (P&C)
How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel ("Ross Xu")
Re: Linux for an i 386 ("Colin Klenner")
Re: how to change boot drive? ("Colin Klenner")
Re: Install linux using hard drive as install disk? ("Colin Klenner")
Just Getting Serious (Kenneth Downs)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: New Slackware install trashes HD
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:13:10 GMT
Well if Windows can wipe a disk during why not Slackware. :)
Sorry, I have to laugh, I did the same thing with Redhat.
Second disk was empty thought that was enough. Did a workstation
install and it wiped both of my disks.
Redhat and Mandrake will wipe the disk during install unless
you pick custom/expert install and set the partitions.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:20:56 -0400, Don Burden
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I bought a set of Linux CDs last December and just now got around to
>installing the CD for "Slackware Linux 7.0". This CD is from the Infomagic
>"Developer's Resource" 6 CD set. The Slackware CD installs the 2.2.13
>kernel.
>
>I have two HDs. One 60G for Windows 2000 (primary - hda) and one 37G for
>Windows 98 (slave - hdb). Both IBM drives. I decided to install Linux to
>hdb. I partitioned my second drive to have approx. 27G in the first
>partition for Windows 98 (hdb1), 9G in the second partition for Linux
>(hdb2), and the rest for swap (hdb3, about 750M). I booted my system from
>the Slackware CD and just answered the prompts. The formatting of the Linux
>partitions in hdb2 and hdb3 seemed to run smoothly, as well as the system
>installation itself. When rebooting, I booted back to the Windows98
>partition and was surprised to see my Windows directories and files trashed
>from what looks like being overwritten with the Linux installed files. I am
>certain I installed to the Linux hdb2 partition and not the Windows 98
>partition (hdb1).
>
>I'm just now getting back into Linux after a few years absence in using MS
>systems exclusively. Something like this happening has really put me off in
>allowing Linux a second chance.
>
Sorry to see you go.
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From: "ThomE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem Queston
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:24:50 GMT
Does anyone know where to get a cheap, less than $50, dial up modem that
isn't a winmodem? I want to play around with Linux but it isn't going to be
my main system as of now so I don't want to put a great deal of money into
it. The modem doesn't even need to be a 56k, a 33.6k would do just fine as
the speed I get now is never over 28.8k on a 56k winmodem I have now. Also
it can be either internal or external.
Thome
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: jetdirect print server problem
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:42:38 +0100
I'm using a HP jetdirect J2591 with a LJ4 printer.
Print jobs all print OK but the spool files aren't
being deleted from the spool directory. LPC
shows a number of jobs spooled but no daemon
present.
Any ideas please ?
Bob
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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Soundcard Problems.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:34:15 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root wrote:
> Dear Group
>
> I have a problem here with sound which is driving me insane..! Has
> anyone managed to get any sound from a Trident soundcard using alsa
> drivers or any others for that matter. The reason I ask is that I have
> a Trident addonics sv 750 soundcard which under kernel 2.2.14-15mdk is
> detected by sndconfig but that reports that the card is not supported
> but I should try alsa-project..! I tried alsa-drivers with the -lib
> -utils-0.5.8 which required the 2.2.16 kernel which i've clean installed
> at least 10 times but as yet no joy. I've done all the usual things
> like enable sound support only in the kernel, setup a module in the
> kernel and even selected the option to install a trident driver for the
> 4DWave DX. Nothing seems to work. Infact it gets worse. Once I've
> updated the kernel to 2.2.16, I can run sndconfig but get the following
> message:
>
> ' You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular sound enabled '
>
> Well I think I am. Sound support is enabled every time. It works OK
> until I do the update then everything goes pear shaped - a bit like my
> head at the moment. :o)
>
> I've tried using the 2.4test kernel but again, no joy. Any ideas..?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Martin Kelly - Registered Linux User
>
One little thing - try not to surt the Internet as root - BAD THING
(TM).
To install AL:SA, you need to compile "Sound support " to a MODULE, not
into the kernel. All the rest of the sound card drivers must either be
compiled AS MODULES or not compiled AT ALL, but never into the kernel.
--
Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910
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From: J. Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel compile issues
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:00:29 GMT
Hello,
I have Red Hat 6.2 and kernel version 2.2.14-5.0.
The kernel that is set from the initial install loads fine for me.
However when I try to recompile the kernel I get major problems with
things failing to startup or the kernel just freezes up all together.
So, for example if I'm trying to compile support for my zip drive, then
things like my eth0 fails to load, and my sound module fails to load.
And I didn't touch these options when running the xconfig.
I was assuming that when I run make xconfig the options are ones that
are set for my already working kernel. However, is it correct to say
that this isn't the case? That these are arbirtrary values rather?
My problem is I'm not having any luck recompiling the kernel to suit my
computers needs. And I really don't know enough to go through every
option in the xconfig and set it correctly for my system. Is there a
way to determine the settings for the kernel that works for me now and
then when I run xconfig to set all those values the same and then work
from there?
I hope that someone can help me with this.
Thanks
--
Janine Roe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...the more i learn, the less i know about before
the less i know, the more i want to look around...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Richard Arts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two Linux questions
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:55:01 +0200
Hello,
I have recently installed RedHat 6.2. I have two questions
1. Although I specified in the /etc/inittab file that I want to run X
Windows on startup, it still starts up with the console. What can I do to
change this?
2. I have tried to mount a vfat partition, and want it permanently mounted
because it contains data I want to use both with Windows and Linux. I am the
owner of the mount directory. Now during the first session all is ok and I
can access the partition (permissions are set to 755). But when I reboot I
find that the partition, however mounted, is not accessible (its permissions
are set to 022 (!)). Attempts to change the permissions have failed, and
even remounting does not seem to help.
Can somebody help me please?
Thanks in Advance,
Richard
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From: "Andrew Kenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what Pop3 servers are the best
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:48:23 +1000
they are the most commonly used ones, there are probably more floating
around out there. Personally I would go for qpopper as is much easier to
configure
Regards
Andrew
Serial # 19781010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have heard about qpopper and ipop3d, but are those the only
> two pop3 servers available for Linux? I haven't found anything else
> either. If someone knows anything else I love to here about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Eli
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compile issues
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:46:07 -0800
In article <8lfted$i0s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J. Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have Red Hat 6.2 and kernel version 2.2.14-5.0. The kernel that is
> set from the initial install loads fine for me. However when I try to
> recompile the kernel I get major problems with things failing to startup
> or the kernel just freezes up all together. So, for example if I'm
> trying to compile support for my zip drive, then things like my eth0
> fails to load, and my sound module fails to load. And I didn't touch
> these options when running the xconfig.
>
>
> I was assuming that when I run make xconfig the options are ones that
> are set for my already working kernel. However, is it correct to say
> that this isn't the case? That these are arbirtrary values rather?
>
> My problem is I'm not having any luck recompiling the kernel to suit my
> computers needs. And I really don't know enough to go through every
> option in the xconfig and set it correctly for my system. Is there a
> way to determine the settings for the kernel that works for me now and
> then when I run xconfig to set all those values the same and then work
> from there?
>
> I hope that someone can help me with this.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Janine Roe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ...the more i learn, the less i know about before
> the less i know, the more i want to look around...
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
When you first installed your system, you may or may not have gotten the "default"
which
would be contained in a .config file there. I have seen some redhat systems with no
.config. All one usually does to generate one is to run make menuconfig and not do
much
more. This forces a .config when it leaves the utility. I am curious what exact
commands
you are using to build a kernel and whether you have tried to download and install a
new
kernel and if it still fails.
So, do you do a make modules and make modules_install when done with making the
kernel? I am sorry if this is a basic question; I just want to make sure you are
getting the
modules built which by default are built when you boot the install kernel.
Perhaps you could print out exactly your steps in compiling a kernel. That may be
helpful.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodems & duel monitors
Date: 23 Jul 2000 19:45:08 -0500
Robp2001 a �crit :
>
> ok guys, ive only had linux running (duel boot linux/98) for 1 hour. at the
> moment im in windows to post this, just wondered if anyone knows if ESS
> modems are win-modems?
>
> All i know is its made by ESS systems, and its a ES56T -PI
>
One good way to see is to look into the hardware info on winblows. Look on the
information on the
modem driver. If there is a long list you got a software modem. Normally it doesn't
need more than
one driver for a real modem.
As to you question, no it's not a winmodem, because it's not made my 3-Com (US Robotic)
> also... Ive got a mantrox G400 duel head. And i cant get it to run the two
> monitors.... any ideas ??(drivers were with the mandrake CD, and windows
> ones are the newest ones.)
>
You talk about a duel of monitors, who won?
Considering that a duel is a prearranged combat between two persons usually fought to
with deadly weapons,
there should be only one survivor.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: kernel compile issues
Date: 23 Jul 2000 23:52:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.setup on Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:00:29 GMT
J. Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>I was assuming that when I run make xconfig the options are ones that
>are set for my already working kernel. However, is it correct to say
>that this isn't the case? That these are arbirtrary values rather?
>
They are usually the ones that RH use for generic
kerneldom.
Did you make sure to do the module stuff? If you change the kernel
and don't remake modules, then odd things can happen.
With your normal running system, use the things that are not working,
and then do lsmod to see what modules are running. Recompile, and
note that you have the same modules in the reconfig. remake the
modules as per the README in /usr/src/linux, and reboot, making sure
you have changed lilo and done any recommended backups.
Then try and hand load the modules using insmod.
Zebee
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From: "Robp2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodems & duel monitors
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:54:07 +0100
er...... I was with you up to the duel monitor bit... :-)
I think it isent a win modem, because it only uses one driver, but win98
says hardware version N/A ?
(then again blinkin win98 says that for a lot of stuff !!
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Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Robp2001 a �crit :
> >
> > ok guys, ive only had linux running (duel boot linux/98) for 1 hour. at
the
> > moment im in windows to post this, just wondered if anyone knows if ESS
> > modems are win-modems?
> >
> > All i know is its made by ESS systems, and its a ES56T -PI
> >
> One good way to see is to look into the hardware info on winblows. Look on
the information on the
> modem driver. If there is a long list you got a software modem. Normally
it doesn't need more than
> one driver for a real modem.
> As to you question, no it's not a winmodem, because it's not made my 3-Com
(US Robotic)
>
> > also... Ive got a mantrox G400 duel head. And i cant get it to run the
two
> > monitors.... any ideas ??(drivers were with the mandrake CD, and windows
> > ones are the newest ones.)
> >
>
> You talk about a duel of monitors, who won?
>
> Considering that a duel is a prearranged combat between two persons
usually fought to with deadly weapons,
> there should be only one survivor.
>
>
> --
> Vous en avez plein l'casse du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
> C'est l'temps d'essayer Linux
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Booting from 1.68MB floppy
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:44:16 GMT
I,
I have start to study Linux LRP (Linux on a floppy) and to put more
informations (like BIND), i wish to use a floppy who can contain more
than 1.44Mb.
So I use WinImage in Win98 to format and copy a DOS bootable 1.44 LRP
floppy to a new 1.68 floppy.
Every thing are there but it refuses to boot. I receive a message like
"boot error" because it cannot find the boot files (ldlinux.sys).
How can I correct this situation^
Serge Boisvert
Victoriaville, Qc.
Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P&C)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: One perl script works, others don't
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:57:50 GMT
I have one perl script that works just fine and two others that do not
work at all. Both the failing scripts are variations of scripts that
print out the enviornment variables. They both syntax check ok and
both work fine from the command line.
The browser returns a 500 error:
"Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might
have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error
log."
So, checking the error log shows:
[Sun Jul 23 21:47:07 2000] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec
of /home/httpd/cgi-bin/envtest.pl failed
Checking the access log shows an attempted GET of /cgi-bin/envtest.pl
and the server 500 error code.
The url I've been using is:
http://www.myserver.com/cgi-bin/envtest.pl
and for the script that works:
http:/www.myserver.com/cgi-bin/cookie.pl
Both scripts ABSOLUTELY reside in the cgi-bin directory and have the
exact same permissions (755).
What's going on here? What am I missing?
Phil
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p c a t n t a d m i n d o t c o m
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From: "Ross Xu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:01:16 -0400
Dear there,
I have recompiled my 2.2.14 kernel.
But for the hard disk reason, my linux machine can only boot from the floppy
boot disk.
So, how can I modify the floppy disk after recompiling the kernel?
I copied the new kernel bzImage to the floppy disk as original kernel name.
But when I booted from the floppy disk, I got an error message:
boot:
loading linux.........
Uncompressing Linux...
ran out of input data
--System halted
What is the problem? How can I do?
Thank you in advance.
Ross
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From: "Colin Klenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for an i 386
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:17:50 +1200
Q. What do you want to run specifically.
If it is a firewall then go to www.freesco.com as they have a distro that
will fit on a floppy.
They also have other links on-site so you may find other distros for what
you want.
C.
Jane Seidl wrote in message <3977a72a$0$10404$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Are there any distributions of Linux that I can use on my old IBM PS/1
386sx
>2mb RAM 80mb HDD?
>If so, where can I download it?
>
>Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Colin Klenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to change boot drive?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:28:07 +1200
Colin responded:
Paul Lew wrote in message ...
> clutz123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>hi,
>>
>>i am trying install linux on a 486DX/66 with 8 mb ram. My
>>problem is that I have a 5.25" drive that is set to a:. Is
>>there any way to change it to my 3.5" floppy? I tried changing
>>the BIOS, but it didn't work...
>>
>>jonathan
>>
>>p.s. after reading some posts, i'll try and track down a 5.25"
>>disk and try to write a disk image on that...
>>
>>
>"easiest" way is to swap the cable connections between the 5.25 and 3.5.
Not necessarily true as older drives had a little jumper on them that
determined which was "a" and which was "b". The olny way you can be sure is
suck it and see.
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From: "Colin Klenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install linux using hard drive as install disk?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:33:14 +1200
Your SCSI cards are different enough that they use different drivers. You
will not be able to use your 2nd PC to set up the first, but here is a
thought. Does your 2nd PC boot from CD?
This will take some mucking around, though, so be careful.
Remove the SCSI card and disk from No.2
Move SCSI card and disk from No.1 to No.2
Make No.2 CDROM-bootable
Boot from CD-ROm and load Linux to drive
Copy extra RPMS to set up X-Server, if required
Swap all back again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8lba61$jfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello. I need to install RedHat linux (6.1) on this P60
>system I have. The onboard floppy controller has gone
>bad, so I can't use an installation disk. I don't have
>an IDE/floppy controller card I can drop in.
>
>Is there anyway I can put the installation diskette's
>contents on to the hard drive I plan on installing to?
>Then I could boot from that HD, then it will tell me
>to put in the CDROM, it will find it, then the CDROM
>install process pretty much takes over, right, and
>it will install on that HD that it booted from. Maybe?
>
>Or any other options? This is an old Packard Bell, it
>won't boot from the CDROM drive.
>
>I tried installing linux on to the target hard drive
>on another machine and then just putting the drive
>in the Packard Bell (many times) but could not get it
>to work.
>
>Every time it boots up it just goes "01 01 01 01" across
>the screen forever.
>
>Would that have anything to do with my SCSI card? In my
>normal workstation, the one I used to try to install linux
>on to the IDE hard drive and then move it to the Packard Bell,
>I use a SCSI drive. I unplugged the drive so it won't boot
>from that (and I won't accidentally pick that drive to
>install linux to), but the linux install *does* find the
>card, I wonder if that makes it install different for some
>reason.
>
>I should mention that I get the "01 01 01" thing when booting
>from the drive on *either* system. And I have tried a different
>IDE drive, same problem.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Ryan
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Kenneth Downs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Just Getting Serious
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:11:30 -0400
Folks,
I've been playing with Linux for a year or so, but have never really
gotten past installing it, doing ls -l, and so forth.
Now I'd like to get serious, and I have a few questions. My first goal,
on which I'm willing to spend as much time as it takes, is to make a
Linux box that can be my "Household ISP." I'd like it have a web
server, a mail server and an FTP server, and I'd like to point the
domain name I've registered to this box. I'd like Network Address
Translation so that the ADSL line can be shared (right now I'm using
Sygate 3.1 on an NT workstation to do that). For file sharing, I'm
using an NT server, and can continue to do so indefinitely, as what I've
read suggests that attaching to Linux shares from a Windows box is
klunky at best.
So, Question 1. I have Red Hat 5.2. Can I do it with this? Or do I
need to get 6.2?
Question 2. If I put a 2Gig FAT partition on the target box to start
with, can I download images and install from that partition?
TIA,
Ken Downs
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