Linux-Setup Digest #261, Volume #19 Fri, 28 Jul 00 01:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Gnome or KDE (Jimmy Navarro)
WinTV msp3600 Driver ("Mark W. Stroberg")
Menu Editor ("Mark W. Stroberg")
Re: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem (gLiTcH)
RH 6.2 network install excruciatingly painful (Bob Bramwell)
Re: Gnome or KDE (Tom Eastep)
Disk Druid help (GL)
Re: Virtual Pop3 user help! (gLiTcH)
Notebook video timings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: syslogd question (gLiTcH)
Re: Math Coprocessor problem - Linux won't boot (gLiTcH)
Re: Notebook video timings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Installing Mandrake 7.1
Re: problem with netscape (gLiTcH)
Re: And test3Dfx failed ("kc")
Re: libglide2x.so ("kc")
Re: Gnome or KDE (Hans)
Re: Changing SCSI Cards - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4 (Kevin Adams)
Re: Download rate diminishes (Gordon Gilbert)
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:10:14 -0700
Pig wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
I like KDE in my Thinkpad because GNOME is too ugly in my 12.1" viewable
Active Matrix screen, the bottom horizontal bar to can not set to tiny
or thinner like in KDE.
--
I am using another Red Hat 6.2 clone -- Gentus Abit Linux Release 3.0!
Visit http://www.gentus.com for more about this Linux distribution.
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From: "Mark W. Stroberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WinTV msp3600 Driver
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:17:56 GMT
I noticed a post by someone mentioning the msp3600 driver in
reference to the Hauppauge WinTV card. I run kWinTV and have never used
this driver. What is its use and purpose? My kWinTV runs fine without
it, just using the i2c, videodev, bttv, and tuner drivers. If anyone
knows the answer to this, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
TIA
Mark
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From: "Mark W. Stroberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Menu Editor
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:27:41 GMT
I recently upgraded from Red Hat 6.0 to Red Hat 6.2. Everything was fine
for a while, other than me having multiple entries for many items in the
main menu in KDE. Then, a few boots later, several icons disappeared
from the bottom KDE panel and I was no longer able to edit the main
menu. When I right click on the main menu button, and choose
"Properties," a dialog box comes up saying "Menu Editor not Installed."
I would really like to be able to edit the main menu to remove the
multiple entries. Does anyone know why this program would just
disappear? And does anyone know how to install it? I looked at the Red
Hat 6.2 disk but could not find any package that looked like a KDE menu
editor. I really don't mind about the panel icons that disappeared as I
can simply add them, but their disappearance seems a little mysterious.
Any help would be appreciated.
TIA
Mark
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:37:35 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem
"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm running RedHat 6.0 with the GNOME desktop.
>
> As recommended in most Linux installation and user guides I have
> read, I have set up a normal user account for myself.
>
> However, I have a problem getting kppp to work when logged in as a
> normal user.
>
> I can run kppp without any problem when logged in as root, but
> when I log in as a normal user, kppp gives me an error message
> something like this:
>
> Error!
> pppd is not properly installed!
> The pppd binary must be installed
> with the SUID bit set.
> Contact your system administrator.
>
> Then, when I try to set up kppp to dial my ISP, I can't even set
> up the modem, regardless of what device I choose. I get another
> error message:
>
> Sorry, can't open modem.
>
> Therefore, I can't access my ISP unless I log in as root.
>
> Can anyone answer the following questions for me?
>
> 1. A. Why can I access the modem as root, but not as a user?
to give an answer but not a very exact one, I would say it is because of
permission problems (obviously) going back to how pppd is called it
seems. Can anyone give a better, more precise reason?
>
> B. Can I fix this, and, if yes, how do I do it?
yes, by following what the error message says
>
>
> 2. A. How do I install pppd with the SUID bit set?
you won't need to install it that way. Since it is already installed you
can just change the current permissions so that the suid bit is set. To
set it find the pppd binary (probably in /usr/sbin/ but don't quote me
on that) and issue the following command:
chmod u+s pppd
This will turn on the suid bit for the owner of the pppd binary.
>
> B. What is the SUID bit, anyway?
it allows programs to be run as the actual owner of the file instead of
the owner of the process that is trying execute a binary second hand.
Another way of putting this would be the following example:
Apache normally runs as the user 'www' however some programs it has to
run are of course owned by regular users (CGI files run into this
problem). When a CGI program needs to be executed for a webpage and it
isn't owned by 'www', which is who Apache is executed as, the suid bit
can be set so that the CGI program can be executed by www on the owner's
behalf.
I believe I have explained that correctly. I always get confused myself
on what it actually does so if anyone notices I explained it incorrectly
please post the correct definition/purpose of the suid bit.
As a side note, suid programs are a security hazard so it is best to
think about what programs you are turning the suid bit on for in case it
may bring you problems later on.
>
>
> I can't find the answers to these questions in any of the
> documentation. I have looked in sag, nag, lug and install-guide.
>
> If someone could at least tell me where to look for the
> information I need, I'll be eternally grateful.
>
> Best regards
> Chris Souter
> (Sydney, Australia)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Bob Bramwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: RH 6.2 network install excruciatingly painful
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:36:21 GMT
Rarely have I had so many problems to overcome in trying to install an
OS, and NEVER have I had so many with any previous version of Linux! In
the good old days (a couple of years ago) I put RH 5.0 up on a machine
using an NFS mounted CD-ROM with no trouble at all. There was only one
floppy required for either a local CD-ROM or a network accessible RH
respository (NFS CD-ROM, FTP site, whatever). But apparently this was
Too Easy so by 6.2 things have got considerably more complex.
1. Now I have to notice ahead of time that the floppy I am holding won't
do a network install. That's a separate floppy image. Sigh: so I make
a new floppy.
2. Almost immediately I start the install I am asked to put in a
"driver" disk. What the hell? I'm not using a SCSI adapter or anything
else exotic, so what's this for? Sigh. Look in the images/drivers
directory and find several cryptically named images and nothing to help
me decide which is which. SIGH. Make several more floppies and try
them all.
3. Manage to NFS mount the CD-ROM from a SUN Solaris 2.5.1 system.
Grind through the install, wait a while and get told that there is "too
little space on /mnt/source". NOW what? THAT'S the NFS CD-ROM! Why do
I need *ANY* space on it? This USED to work!
4. Set up anonymous FTP service and try that route. Get some sort of
weird traceback from "Anaconda" (whatever the hell THAT is) in what
looks like Python. Oh no. You didn't rewrite the frigging installation
in PYTHON, did you? It's no wonder it's so slow. It's no wonder it
requires several floppies. It's no wonder it's got bugs. I mean,
anything you write in Python will do *something*; it's just hardly ever
what you had in mind. Oh god.
5. Download latest version of network boot image from RedHat mirror.
Blow it onto a floppy. Try again. "Too little space on /mnt/source".
God's teeth!
6. Try FTP installation again: it works! Oh boy! And after only 6
hours of continuous effort! Install LILO in MBR and make boot floppy -
Just In Case.
7. Reboot from hard disk. Get "LI" on the screen before the machine
freezes. Repeatable. Good thing I made that boot floppy, which works
just fine. System comes up. (BTW: installing LILO in the "first
sector" on another identical machine worked just fine.)
8. System cannot configure the network card, although it didn't have any
trouble during the installation; one of the FEW things it didn't have
trouble with. Oh, the "alias eth0 ..." is missing from conf.modules.
Well, *that's* intuitively obvious.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: this stinks.
If it's any consolation an attempt to install Mandrake 7.0 from an NFS
drive failed in equally spectacular ways, but I didn't beat my head
against it quite so hard.
Can anyone recommend a Linux variety that one can install rather more
conveniently? Or possibly a good psychiatrist? Life is too short for
this sort of BS.
--
Bob Bramwell Snail: 60 Baker Cr. NW | Remember:
ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | You can't have everything:
+1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | where would you put it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:32:28 -0700
Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>Pig wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
>> I've tried different GUIs.
>> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
>> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
>
>I like KDE in my Thinkpad because GNOME is too ugly in my 12.1" viewable
>Active Matrix screen, the bottom horizontal bar to can not set to tiny
>or thinner like in KDE.
>
It can in Gnome 1.2.1...
-Tom
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
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From: GL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk Druid help
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:49:37 GMT
I'm using Linux 6.2 with a bash text shell. How do I run Disk Druid?
I've only seen it on the installer but I'd like to mess around with
some of my partitions without using "fdisk". Is this even possibile or
is Disk Druid for installing ONLY?? Thanks
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:15:46 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virtual Pop3 user help!
Logging into the server to get a prompt is not possible with virtual users as
part of their definition of being virtual they are not listed in /etc/passwd
therefore logging in won't work.
However of course it is possible to login to retrieve mail. The passwords for
the users should be in a .mm subdirectory of the domain's root directory and in
the .mm subdirectory should be 2 files called $domain.mailaddr and
$domain.passwd
That is where information can be found for the passwords (albeit encrypted if
memory serves) and where the list of virtual users is held (in the mailaddr
file)
In order to know what the problem is it would help if you provided error
messages such as the error a user receives when trying to download mail using
outlook or netscape
Brandon
KingCobra wrote:
> I have setup a virtual domain with users created in the
> virtual pop user screen. I am unable to login to these accounts.
> If I set an account to forward any incomming mail to another address, I
> recieve the mail. (I think that the virtual domain is correct) to I need
> any
> special username such as domain/user or something?
>
> Please help
>
> More Info
> Sorry, I can not login via a pop mail client. I created these accounts in
> linuxconf. First
> I created a virtual e-mail domain then under special users I created a users
> under
> virtual pop accounts (mail only). This is a domain accepting mail for a 2nd
> domain.
>
> I have used the pop accunt (mail only) under special users in linuxconf for
> the first domain
> and all functions as expected. This is what I wanted to do for the 2nd
> domain.
>
> > > >Running
> > > >RedHat 6.2
> > > >Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7
> > > >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Notebook video timings
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:08:57 GMT
I'm attempting to get my X to use the full
capabilities of my laptop. The video adapter is
capable of displaying 1024x768 at 85Hz. I don't
have dotclock or sync frequencies, and the
utilities that come with XFree86 are of no help
whatsoever, despite what limited knowledge I
have. The details are below:
System:
HP Pavilion N3390
Notebook display:
HP Pavilion 14.1" diagonal 1024 x 768 XVGA TFT
Adapter:
Silicon Motion 3DM4 128-bit AGP2X graphics with
3D hardware acceleration
4MB dedicated video memory
Any help would be appreciated.
Bill
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:28:06 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: syslogd question
Not the last issue published but the 2nd to last issue of Linux Journal I
believe had an article about how syslogd works and how it can be setup to
log to a completely different box. If you cant get your hands on the
actually hardcopy check out their website. The article might be posted on
the site.
HTH
Brandon
"Devin M. Ash" wrote:
> Does anyone have experience setting up a loghost machine to keep logs
> from several different Linux/Solaris/FreeBSD machines or Cisco/Bay
> routers? I have read quite a bit on the subject but my log machine still
> does not appear to be recieving any logs from the other machines or
> routers. Perhaps someone has set something like this up before and has a
> working syslog.conf or other files I could look at. Any help would be
> appreciated.
> --
> - Devin M. Ash
> - The Internet Ramp, a OneMain.com Company
> - System/Network Administrator
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:33:18 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Math Coprocessor problem - Linux won't boot
change your line wrap in your newsreader to 72 characters or less
Xzera wrote:
> Help!
> Linux won't boot anymore - I don't get it.
> it hangs up on the math coprocessor part -
> "Checking 386/387 coupling :<3> failed
> trying to reset .. failed
> trying to reset.. failed
> trying to reset failed
>
> and on and on. If I give it the boot command : linux no387 it will go along just
>fine - except that all new kernels need a math coprocessor so it will hang up a
>little later.
> What I've got is a PIII 500mhz - with Gigabyte GA-6VX MoBo. (VIA chipset - 5 PCI
>slots - onboard stuff disabled) I installed linux on it and it worked fine - then I
>went to add cards to make it usable, ie network, sound, SCSI, and now it's doing
>this! Help!
> If I can't use a network card, etc. I might as well use Win98, which, by the way,
>boots up and runs just fine on it, cards and all.
>
> Anybody got any ideas???
> TIA
>
> remove "nospam" to email
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Notebook video timings
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:22:10 GMT
Clearly I should read the documentation better. The newer versions of
XFree86 (3.3.6 and beyond) contain support for this chipset, and thus
should solve my problems in a jiffy.
In article <8lr10n$nrh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm attempting to get my X to use the full
> capabilities of my laptop. The video adapter is
> capable of displaying 1024x768 at 85Hz. I don't
> have dotclock or sync frequencies, and the
> utilities that come with XFree86 are of no help
> whatsoever, despite what limited knowledge I
> have. The details are below:
>
> System:
> HP Pavilion N3390
>
> Notebook display:
> HP Pavilion 14.1" diagonal 1024 x 768 XVGA TFT
>
> Adapter:
> Silicon Motion 3DM4 128-bit AGP2X graphics with
> 3D hardware acceleration
> 4MB dedicated video memory
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Bill
>
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>
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Subject: Installing Mandrake 7.1
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:30:08 GMT
OK, I've heard all the hype about Linux, and are downloading Mandrake 7.1
right now. I am wondering what is the process of getting the system
prepped, etc. I am going to be installing it on a PC other than the one
I'm DLing it from. Anyway, it is running Win 98 SE now, and I have System
Commander. I would like to keep that, and be able to boot with either. I
am wondering what I install first, and I have heard that Mandrake takes
over the MBR and all that. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:36:58 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with netscape
hit OK to get rid of the error and then hit Home in Netscape. If it still loads
the page it just means NS didn't know PPP was running yet. If however the same
error occurs it means that DNS isn't working correctly (such as your resolv.conf
file not setup or just not correct) or as the first poster suggested your ISP's
nameservers are not reachable which actually goes back to your resolv.conf file.
HTH
Brandon
Fred Yi wrote:
> hi. i've been able to connect using kppp, and i'm able to get a response
> when i ping my ISP. Kppp shows that i'm connected, and i tried various
> ping/finger/etc progs until i was confident that i was indeed connected.
>
> however, when i tried to load netscape communicator that came with my copy
> of Red Hat 6.0, it gave me a very long error which i don't understand :
>
> "Netscape: Error
> Warning: the following hosts are unknown:
> home.netscape.com
> home6.netscape.com
> internic.net
>
> This means that some or all hosts will be unreachable.
> Perhaps there is a problem with your name server?
> If your site must use a non-root name server, you will need to
> set the $SOCK_NS enviroment variable to point at the appropriate
> name server. It may (or may not) be necessary to set this variable,
> or the SOCKS host preference, to the IP address of the host in
> question rather than its name.
> Consult your system administrator."
>
> And that's the error. It sounds to mean that netscape thinks i'm running
> a server on my computer... Please help me with this. Thanks.
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From: "kc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: And test3Dfx failed
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:45:35 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gilles Hamel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When i test my glide config with /usr/bin/test3Dfx, i have the message " video
> memory unprotecting " then a seg fault !
>
> my glide package is glide_v3-2.60-49 ( glide v 2.60.00.0415) and my Xfree SVGA
> Server is 3.3.6.
>
> Where is the problem ?
You need to have the necessary video modes configured in your XF86Config. I
believe the test requires 640x480.
HTH...
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From: "kc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libglide2x.so
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:48:35 -0600
In article <3980b5c7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Servicios de proyectos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where I can found this library for install them ?
>
> Thanks.
>
linux.3dfx.com
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From: Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:33:01 GMT
These are just the clone of M$ Windows 98. Nothing more than this.
They requires good hardware spec like M$ Windows 98. :-(
In article <8lpd8b$i66$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Pig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
>
>
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From: Kevin Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Changing SCSI Cards - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:55:34 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Creating a new initial ramdisk did the trick. Thanks for the info.
Although I do have one more question - look at my *new* boot messages (below) -
is "enable_irq() unbalanced" something I should be worried about?
.
.
.
<5>RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
<4>Uncompressing........................done.
<4>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
<6>(scsi0) <Adaptec AIC-7850 SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/9/0
<6>(scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 3/255 SCBs
<6>(scsi0) Warning - detected auto-termination
<6>(scsi0) Please verify driver detected settings are correct.
<6>(scsi0) If not, then please properly set the device termination
<6>(scsi0) in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted
<6>(scsi0) during machine bootup.
<6>(scsi0) Cables present (Int-50 YES, Ext-50 NO)
<6>(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 415 instructions downloaded
<4>enable_irq() unbalanced from d000ea36
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
+-------- Should I be worried about this?
<4>scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.25/3.2.4
<4> <Adaptec AIC-7850 SCSI host adapter>
<4>scsi : 1 host.
<6>(scsi0:0:5:0) Synchronous at 10.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
<4> Vendor: iomega Model: jaz 1GB Rev: J.83
<4> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
<4>Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
<6>(scsi0:0:6:0) Synchronous at 10.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 8.
<4> Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-R CW-7502 Rev: 4.10
<4> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
<4>Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
<4>sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/8x writer xa/form2 cdda tray
<4>SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2091050 [1021 MB] [1.0 GB]
<4>sda: Write Protect is off
<4> sda: sda4
<4>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
.
.
.
Many thanks,
Kevin Adams
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From: Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Download rate diminishes
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:58:48 -0400
"L.M. Dizon" wrote:
>
> Any idea why when I download a file or surf the internet, the download rate
> just goes keeps on diminishing until the modem "stalls"? I use an Optiflex
> Speedcom 2000 56k modem and I get the following information when I use the
> command setserial:
>
> setserial /dev/ttyS0 -a
> /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8. IRQ: 4
> Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
> closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
> Flages: spd_normal skip_test
>
> I also found from a linux newbie website that you can speed tweak a modem by
> changing parameters in the options file found in /etc/options. So I set the
> MTU(Maximum Transmission Unit) to 1250 and the MRU(Maximum Recieve Unit) to
> 1500. I still haven't noticed any change however. What do I need to setup?
I had a similar problem in Linux until I changed my PPP device
setting to point to /dev/ttyS0 instead of /dev/modem. Don't ask me
why that would matter since /dev/modem is pointing to /dev/ttyS0
unless it was just coincidence.... Something to try though if you
have it pointing to /dev/modem.
>
> Lloyd Dizon
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