Linux-Setup Digest #287, Volume #19 Mon, 31 Jul 00 16:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: apache UserDir question ("Jason Goff")
Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr? (Greg Alexander)
Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Rasputin)
eth0 not working... (EKK)
Re: redhat 6.2 won't boot kernel ("Phil")
Re: redhat 6.2 won't boot kernel (Jan Johansson)
Help with PLIP problem please (Nicolas Anquetil)
Re: Gnome or KDE (John Sanders)
Re: Gnome or KDE (John Sanders)
Re: Installing Linux on a Win ME + Win 2K dual booting system ("Harold Stonebraker")
pppd-problem ("BD-WZZ Roeselare")
Share happiness with you. Thank John, David and others ("Ross Xu")
Re: eth0 not working... (EKK)
Re: Come to my Linux's Website! ("Maarten W.G. Andriessen")
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From: "Jason Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config
Subject: Re: apache UserDir question
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:55:50 -0500
just create a public_html folder in the user's dir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The access.conf and srm.conf " FILES " are no longer needed. The
> entries originally used in these files are now integrated into
> httpd.conf in current releases of Apache.
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:32:21 -0500, Scott Beckman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your responses,
> >
> >I needed change the permissions with
> >
> > chmod 755 /home/user
> >
> >I had my default set to permissions 750
> >
> >When I first started with this server I had thought that I'd have
> >multiple user groups, but since then have changed my mind so using a
> >permission of 755 shouldn't really hurt anything.
> >
> >==========
> >
> >There were two comments about srm and access not being used any more.
> >Is this true? When did it change? I installed RH 6.0 last september
> >and this apache configuration is what I received with all three files.
> >Is it just a matter of copying everything from the access.conf and
> >srm.conf to the httpd.conf file? What is the advantage, aside from
> >ease of maintenance? Is there a security advantage?
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >Scott Beckman wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm new to Apache and am stumped as to how to get the
> >> http://my.compter.com/~user to refer to /home/user/www/index.html
> >>
> >> I've set in srm.conf:
> >>
> >> UserDir /home/*/www
> >>
> >> In access.conf I've set
> >>
> >> <Directory /home/*/www>
> >> Order Deny,Allow
> >> Allow from All
> >>
> >> Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks
> >>
> >> AllowOverride None
> >>
> >> order allow,deny
> >> allow from all
> >>
> >> </Directory>
> >>
> >> Then I restarted the server with the command
> >>
> >> apachectl restart
> >>
> >> and received no warnings
> >>
> >> Then I've written a short file for /home/user/index.html and changed
the
> >> permissions with
> >>
> >> chmod 777 -R /home/user/www
> >>
> >> When I try http://my.compter.com/~user
> >>
> >> I'm given a page showing, "You are not authorized to view this page"
> >>
> >> So what am I forgetting? I've read through the manual several times,
> >> but can't seem to find the mistake in my work.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your time,
> >> Scott
> >> --
> >> ====================================================
> >> Scott Beckman
> >>
> >> University of California at Berkeley
> >> Material Science and Mineral Engineering Department
> >> 577 Evans Hall #1760
> >> Berkeley, CA 94720-1760
> >>
> >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> =====================================================
> >
> >--
> >====================================================
> >Scott Beckman
> >
> >University of California at Berkeley
> >Material Science and Mineral Engineering Department
> >577 Evans Hall #1760
> >Berkeley, CA 94720-1760
> >
> >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >=====================================================
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Alexander)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 18:04:41 GMT
In article <8m1i4h$ok2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Coulter wrote:
>I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
>cost a ton.
>And they really goofed up with druid.
>
>They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
>"grow". It turns out that is only at
>install time, not during normal run conditions.
>
>I found out the hard way. Loading Staroffice
>
>So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
>it first as /home
>because /home is easier and I can do that.
>(I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
>
>I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
>and gnome and
>then I cannot change the names of /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
>
>How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
>
>Thanks
>
>This it taking way too long.
The short answer is 'mv', ('man mv' if you have questions), but here's an
answer to what I think you really want to do. Hope this helps.
Okay, so if I got you right, you have some smallish partition for / right
now, let's call it /dev/hda1 (you'll need to substitute in your real
names), and then some other /dev/hda3 that is biggish that has until now
been a win98 partition, right? Assuming you already ran mkfs (or mke2fs
or whatever), and you want to make the /dev/hda3 (new) partition into
/usr, you do something like the following (as root):
(things after # are comments, you don't need to type them)
init 1 # single-user mode, you probably don't want to copy /usr
# while daemons are running, this stops all of them
# at this point it probably asks for the root password
mkdir /mnt # /mnt probably already exists
mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /mnt # mount the new partition
cp -av /usr/* /mnt/ # copy w/ verbose and archive [permissions,etc.]
mv /usr /old-usr # rename the old one so you still have access to it
pico /etc/fstab
in fstab add a line like:
/dev/hda3 /usr ext2 defaults 0 2
the 2 doesn't matter much, you may want to use adifferent number, it just
selects which order it checks thedisks in if you boot up funny.
Then save fstab, umount /mnt, and reboot. (if ^@DEL doesn't work in
single-user mode, try running 'reboot').
If it doesn't work on bootup.
At first utilities like GNOME etc. seem simpler, and if you don't use the
machine much, they might really be...but the shell is actually a simpler
program to work with, and once you learn how to use it, it's a lot faster.
If you know DOS command line okay, then
http://www.sietch.dhs.org/~galexand/DOS2Linux.txt provides a decent
introduction (the hardest part is finding out command names when you're
first starting, there is some validity to the "they named thing sstupidly"
complaint about Unix). I didn't write the text, and I haven't looked at
it in a while, so I hope there's nothing dated about it. :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:09:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Kenneth R�rvik> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
>>support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
>>information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
>>Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.
>
Deselect the 'set version information on all symbols'; that'll stop it.
If not (*and* you're recompiling your existing kernel version)
(let's say you're running 2.2.16)
get as far as 'make modules'
cd /lib/modules
mv 2.2.16 ok.2.2.16
cd - # go back to the source tree
make modules_install.
This will stop 'unresolved symbols'; if it doesn't , let me know,
cos it's always worked for me.
>You should run "make clean" before "make bzImage" :) Although this will
>probably not remove the unresolved symbol messages.
>--
>Kenneth R�rvik 91841353/22718452
>Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: eth0 not working...
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:49:01 -0700
Hello,
I have a Tyan Tiger (133A VIA Apollo) motherboard
PC, and I cannot get the ethernet card to work.
The driver I compiled into the kernel reports the
card and its hardware address at the beginning.
Netconfig just causes segmentation fault.
The e-card is Intel EtherExpress Pro100+.
This is strange because I have about ten other PCs
running just fine with this card. Could it be a
'bad hardware' case? If so, why am I getting its
hardware address at boot?
Strange things have been happening with this motherboard,
like I couldn't install Linux until I downloaded the
updated boot disk (6.2) from RedHat. I am wondering if
it is because of the motherboard? I never had problems
with Intel 810 or similar motherboards, but this has
a VIA Apollo chipset.
Any issues with this chipset?
Thanks,
AG
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From: "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: redhat 6.2 won't boot kernel
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:28:50 +0100
As far as i'm aware your 3com 3c509b NIC isn't supported in rh6.2 perhaps
using the 3c59x.o module *might* work, i'm unsure..
Realtek, hrn. 8129/8139/8029 are defiently supported, again, not sure..
Your graphics card should work, i'm using a TNT2 here..not sure about the
soundcard tho.
I don't see how these cards are effecting your bootup though.. Correct me
if i'm wrong but I thought IDE detection was before kernel init.. Does it
just stop loading or display some error message? Also, try loading from
your boot or rescue disks if you have any..
"Eric Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i have recently installed RedHat 6.2 on an AMD K6/2 400 machine. I had to
> remove both my nic's and my sb live! for it to install. The kernel would
> stop loading after the IDE Detection. I tried all diffrent combinations
of
> slots and cards and nothing seemed to help. i am new to linux and not
sure
> where to go. I have a 3com 3c509b, Realtek 8039, Creative Graphics
Blaster
> (Ria TNT) and SB live on a FIC motherboard. Any ideas why it would lock
up?
> Thanks
> Eric
>
>
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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: redhat 6.2 won't boot kernel
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:31:30 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:28:50 +0100, "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As far as i'm aware your 3com 3c509b NIC isn't supported in rh6.2 perhaps
>using the 3c59x.o module *might* work, i'm unsure..
Total BS, Im currently running no less then five 3c509's in my RH6.2
box. A good idea is to disable the PnP on the 509's tho. And also do
NOT ENTER ANY VALUES FOR IO AND IRQ for the 509's in
linuxconf/netconf/however you config your modules.
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From: Nicolas Anquetil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with PLIP problem please
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:32:30 -0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I am trying to connect to computer with PLIP
I did everything in the PLIP-min-HOWTO, works fine untill I try to ping.
The problem is that one computer -computer A- (a RedHat 6.0, kernel
2.2.16) apparently can talk to the other, but
not the converse.
For the "other" computer -computer B-, I tried:
- A desktop running kernel 2.2.16 from a floppy disk (redhat 6.0 rescue
floppy-disk)
- Same desktop runnig dos and the DOS plip driver (crynwr driver)
- A laptop running DOS and the same crynwr driver
In all case, doing a ping from computer B fails and a ping from computer
A, gives an error message on computer B.
The packets are passing through from A to B, but not from B to A.
Hardware:
I just bought the cable
Ports are irq 7, io_adress 0x378 on all machines
Can anybody provide some help?
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:44:40 -0500
"Victor Schneider, Ph. D." wrote:
>
> X-Windows is nice to play around with, but it is much too easy to damage
> Gnome with an "accidental" keystroke or mouse movement. If Linux people
> are really serious about competing, there would be a movement to write
> setup programs that allow users to choose applications and menus without
> the nuisance of direct editing.
What the heck is X-Windows?
And, we're NOT serious about competing. You do whatever you want to
do. I'll do whatever I want to do. You don't need to worry about it
either way.
--
John W. Sanders
===============
"there" in or at a place.
"their" of or relating to them.
"they're" contraction of 'they are'.
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From: John Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:26 -0500
"D. C. & M. V. Sessions" wrote:
>
> Christopher Browne wrote:
> >
> > Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when SL News Posting would say:
> > >In article <8lqfnk$bli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > ishpeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >|> Nothing better than strait windowmaker. :)
> > >|>
> > >
> > >Sure there is - straight twm - been using it for 10 years[*] and
> > >have no need for all the desktop clutter, sound, moving menus,
> > >themes, etc. *tvtwm is available to provide a virtual screen
> > >larger than the physical screen for those who need such.
> >
> > Ah. Wuss.
> >
> > What you _want_ is wmx, which gets rid of even _more_ of the clutter...
>
> You had ones? All we had was zeros.
>
I use fvwm. There is absolutely nothing in its 'rc' file except for
the blue background. This is the ultimate in no clutter. Also,
xsession does nothing except start fwvm. There is no possibility to
open an xterm or even display a menu.
My GUI used to be the 3x3 virtual desktop control. The only change on
the screen was where the highlight moved in the 3x3 box. But I
eventually cleaned that up.
Who's the wuss? I've go no 'ones' and only one 'zero'.
--
John W. Sanders
===============
"there" in or at a place.
"their" of or relating to them.
"they're" contraction of 'they are'.
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From: "Harold Stonebraker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a Win ME + Win 2K dual booting system
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:36:56 -0400
You should take a look at partition magic & boot magic
Harold Stonebraker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm considering trying this again (I've tried before with Win 2k and
> Win98), but usually Linux messes up my installation of Win 2k, by
> replacing the MBR, but without the Linux MBR, I can't boot Linux (without
> a boot floppy). Is there a way these three can coexist? Is there a good
> bootloader someone could recommend that might let me boot all three? Thank
> you!
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "BD-WZZ Roeselare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd-problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:43:42 -0000
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp
I'm working with Suse 6.4 as newbie.
I've set up a network with 1 linux-server and 6 W/98-clients.
I want the possibility to dial in to the internet for each of the clients.
When I work with wvdial, everything is working fine, exept the demand
option, so I have to start up the connection manually before the client can
access the Internet. I've read the documentation, and it's not possible to
dial-on-demand with wvdial.
So, i started writing scripts for chat and pppd, but i've problems. This is
the output of the log-files. I don't understand anything about it,
can anyone help me?
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: Perms of /dev/ttyS0 are ok, no 'mesg n'
neccesary.
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0>
<magic 0x1a2ac282> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 31 17:14:15 server pppd[3231]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0>
<magic 0x1a2ac282> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 31 17:14:18 server pppd[3231]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 <mru 1500>
<asyncmap 0xa0000> <magic 0x319c1f98> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 31 17:14:18 server pppd[3231]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4 <mru 1500>
<asyncmap 0xa0000> <magic 0x319c1f98> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 31 17:14:18 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:18 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:21 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:21 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:24 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:24 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:27 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:27 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:28 server pppd[3231]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1
<b1cb49e648424820d671e48560979530>, name = "bru01v028"]
Jul 31 17:14:30 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:30 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:33 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:33 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:36 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:36 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:39 server pppd[3231]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x2
<ddae3f83bf5af85ad671e485fbea532f>, name = "bru01v028"]
Jul 31 17:14:39 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:39 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:42 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:42 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:45 server pppd[3231]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 31 17:14:45 server pppd[3231]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15>
<deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>]
Jul 31 17:14:48 server pppd[3231]: IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jul 31 17:14:48 server pppd[3231]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "No network
protocols running"]
Jul 31 17:14:48 server pppd[3231]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
Jul 31 17:14:48 server pppd[3231]: Connection terminated.
Jul 31 17:14:49 server pppd[3231]: Exit.
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From: "Ross Xu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Share happiness with you. Thank John, David and others
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:46:52 -0400
Dear there,
I have just finished my PPTP/VPN project. I am so excited now.
My VPN is below:
VPN Clients
|
Internet
|
<ext. IP>
Firewall(Linux Mandrake7)
<int. IP: 192.168.2.1>
| \
PPTP/VPN Server(NT4) Other Servers
| /
My Internal Network
On PPTP/VPN server, I installed PPTP protocol and configured RAS.
On Firewall, I did VPN masquerading.
On VPN clients, when PPTP tunnel established, the clients seem to sit in
their company office.
I have got lots of help from the news groups. I want give my enormous thanks
to John D Buchan, Bill Hoffman, Nikhil, David Barnett, Tim Moore, Bob
Niederman, Wilfrid Schusta, Christof Dallermass, Jan Klugl, ......
Have a cool summer.
Ross
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: eth0 not working...
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:26:42 -0700
EKK wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a Tyan Tiger (133A VIA Apollo) motherboard
> PC, and I cannot get the ethernet card to work.
>
> The driver I compiled into the kernel reports the
> card and its hardware address at the beginning.
>
> Netconfig just causes segmentation fault.
>
> The e-card is Intel EtherExpress Pro100+.
>
> This is strange because I have about ten other PCs
> running just fine with this card. Could it be a
> 'bad hardware' case? If so, why am I getting its
> hardware address at boot?
>
> Strange things have been happening with this motherboard,
> like I couldn't install Linux until I downloaded the
> updated boot disk (6.2) from RedHat. I am wondering if
> it is because of the motherboard? I never had problems
> with Intel 810 or similar motherboards, but this has
> a VIA Apollo chipset.
>
> Any issues with this chipset?
>
> Thanks,
>
> AG
well......when I switched ethernet cards, with a 3COM
Vortex type, it worked!
another machine received the intel card and that works fine.
that machine has an intel chipset motherboard.
WEIRD.
AG
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From: "Maarten W.G. Andriessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.x,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows.nt,alt.nl.comp.os.netware,alt.uu.comp.os
Subject: Re: Come to my Linux's Website!
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:50:57 +0200
"Sam Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8m2ktk$27o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Come to my Linux's Website!
> http://www.asia-comp.net/linuxcity/
....he said while posting in Windows with Microsoft Outlook Express ;-)))
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
*busted*
Maarten
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