Linux-Setup Digest #343, Volume #21 Thu, 31 May 01 19:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2 (KCmaniac)
Problem compiling fontutils (Keith Rhodes)
Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2 (KCmaniac)
Re: c++ IDE like Microsoft's Visual C++, is there one (aflinsch)
RealPlayer 8 won't play on Mandrake 7.0-2 system (Kevin)
ftp get but no put (Unknown)
Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?] (Brian V. Smith)
Re: ADSL and linux ?? (Sasan Iman)
Linux Mandrake 7.2 + Cable Modem ("Maverick")
problem with rsh (Sujay Kumar)
HELP PLEASE ("TechSupport")
Re: Patching 2.4.3 kernel with XFS doesn't work ("ne...")
Re: Lynx through proxy ("David Dorward")
Re: Lynx through proxy (Jesper Petersen)
PAM and LDAP ("W. van den Akker")
Postscript print netatalk samba (Jeff Moore)
Linux Install Problem ("Matt Fleharty")
Re: problem with rsh ("Matt King")
Dual booting and mp3 sharing (john paul miller)
Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: ftp get but no put (Dave Uhring)
Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Damage root filesystem ("Robert Morelli")
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:19:50 -0400
> Could you please adjust your line length? 72 chars would be fine.
>
My outgoing messages are wrapped at 72 chars now.
>
> >It assigns the modem to ttyS14.
>
> Yup. Lucent Winmodem, ltmodem.o .
>
> >I went back and booted into the debian system and
> >it is not even doing that. It is not creating a /dev/ttyS14 or
> >/dev/modem.
>
> How should it? You're not telling it to do so.
>
> >I am pretty
> >sure ltmodem.o does not have anything to do with this because it
> >isn't even loaded until
> >either the end of the boot process or after it.
>
>
> - You have a Winmodem.
> - This is a bad thing(TM).
> - There _is_ a driver from Lucent for this winmodem, which is,
> however, only available as a precompiled module (ltmodem.o) .
> - Without this driver, Linux doesn't know zilch about the Lucent
> winmodem, apart from the resources taken.
> - This driver uses /dev/ttyS14 (which is not the driver itself, but
> just the device file pointing to the driver [extremely simplified]).
This is what I am confused about. If I can get the modem to do what I want it
to do, of course, everything will be honky-dorry and all the behind-the-scenes
activity is of lesser importance, for me anyway. But now that it is not
working, it is causing me to do more delving into the boot process.
With my RH system I load the ltmodem.o driver using the insmod command in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local. I have definently read that this script is run last or
near last in the boot process. I have also definently read that the boot
process twice attempts to "set-up/assign/detect/recognize" (whichever word you
want to use, it seems whichever one I use is wrong according to Peter, so I
will use them all) serial ports. Once early in the process and once later but
definently before the rc.local script runs. So if this driver is not loaded
until AFTER the serial ports and modem are
"set-up/assigned/detected/recognized" how can it have anything to do with it?
You and Peter seem to be telling me that this driver is necessary for the
modem to be "connected to" or "associated with" with ttyS14. But between what
I have read and what I am doing this association takes place BEFORE the driver
is loaded! Can you explain that to me?
I am going to try to install this module I got from linmodem.org into this
kernal that my "base" debian system is running. If all goes well and suddenly
the boot process gives me a /dev/ttyS14 and the modem dials-out on demand then
I can only conclude that you and Peter are RIGHT and what I have been reading
about the boot process is either mis-leading or is not telling the whole
story.
RLH
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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.fonts
Subject: Problem compiling fontutils
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:16:34 +0200
I am trying to compile fontutils-0.6 on Linux Mandrake 8.0...
I get loads of errors like this:
In file included from ../include/c-std.h:26,
from ../include/config.h:31,
from Bitmap.c:20:
/usr/include/stdio.h:33:21: stddef.h: No such file or directory
It looks to my uneducated eye like lots of header files are asking for stddef.h,
but that this file is not to be found...
And yet,
$ cd /usr/include/
$ find . -name "stddef.h"
./linux/stddef.h
But I've noticed that there are many files that share the same name... like:
$ find . -name "config.h"
./linux/config.h
./pspell/config.h
./kpathsea/config.h
./python1.5/config.h
./customs/config.h
./pci/config.h
So, has anybody out there with a Mandrake 7.2 or 8.0, or a recent RedHat managed
to compile fontutils?
If so, would you kindly look for stddef.h and tell me if there should be another
file by this name?
Or do I need to supply some options to make, so as to find this stddef.h file?
Thanks in advance,
KR.
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:54:59 -0400
I just wanted to bounce one more thing off you and Peter.
With both systems I can see the Lucent WinModem in /proc/pci. Peter logically
says that the PCI bus reports this information to the boot process, I suppose
through PCI bus software?
With both systems ttyS0/COM1 is assigned IRQ4 and IO port 0x03F8. With RH I am
also seeing a ttyS14 assigned with IRQ10 and IO port 0xD800, I think it is. I am
not seeing ttyS14 with the debian system yet. From what I have read my impression
is that a serial driver is what the boot process uses to get this information and
to make the assignments.
putting these two together it makes sense that the scenario plays out like this:
the boot process sees this "modem" on the PCI bus and sets-up this software ttyS14
serial port for it, powered by either the kernal or serial drivers I guess, and
subsequently the modem driver sends its data to that software serial port.
Now if this scenario is right then something is wrong with my debian system
because it should be setting up ttyS14 because of the detected modem on the PCI
bus. If this scenario is wrong and the modem driver is what actually drives the
"creation" of ttyS14 then I stll have a shot at success, I guess. But it is
curious how RH is settling all this because the modem driver is definently being
loaded last in the boot process.
Oh well, I'm off to give it a try, so ... later.
Thanks for all your input.
RLH
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: c++ IDE like Microsoft's Visual C++, is there one
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:34:20 -0400
Dan Christensen wrote:
> >
> take a look at ww.kdevelop.org it not Visual C++ but close i think.
Also vdkbuilder -- http://vdkbuilder.sourceforge.net
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RealPlayer 8 won't play on Mandrake 7.0-2 system
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:33:35 GMT
Anyone have RP8 playing sounds from behind their firewall?
I did a google search for the solution to this problem and didn't
find anything useful.
I can't get that to work. Here's the details.
I downloaded and installed RP8 on my system. During the install
I heard the test sounds playing just fine. Then I tried to
auto-configure the setup. That bombed, because I'm behind a
firewall I suppose. So, I manually configured RP8 to use http
for everything and run http through my proxy server. At this
point I can "connect" to real audio files without getting the
annoying "you're not on the internet" messages. But, every file
I try to play results either in the "the file is not there"
message or the "general error" message.
Thanks....
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Unknown <Unknown>
Subject: ftp get but no put
I have a couple of laptops running Redhat 7.0. I somehow
managed to enable them with ftp but I can only get with them,
not put. Does that mean they are ftp servers but not clients or
vice-versa? How do I make my ftp put as well as get?
Thanks,
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?]
Date: 31 May 2001 20:17:35 GMT
In article <LuuR6.242965$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Murrell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> > How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
|> > Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
|>
|> It gets applied directly at the time of purchase.
I think he means at the other end - who gets how much from the levy?
Which artists? How do they apportion it?
|> > Where does the levy taxes exactly go?
|>
|> Who knows? :-)
That's for sure :-) And, I think that was his first question.
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Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is too small
for a decent safety factor.
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From: Sasan Iman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL and linux ??
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:26:44 GMT
Rod Smith wrote:
> 2) IP address assignment method. Many low-end DSL providers in the
> United States now use PPPoE, which is what Roaring Penguin is for.
> This usage is *NOT* universal, though, and I've no idea what's
> prevalent outside the U.S. Some distributions now ship with PPPoE
> support, but I don't know offhand if Red Hat 7.1 is one of these.
> Aside from PPPoE, the most common methods are static IP addresses
> and DHCP, both of which work just as if you were connecting to a
> LAN. This will also be the case if you use an external broadband
> router/firewall device.
>
> --
>
As far as I know, how your ethernet interface get's initialized (static
IP, DHCP) is a separate issue from using PPPOE. I have
Earthlink/Mindspring which is one of the largest ISPs and they use
PPPOE. They also use DHCP since they keep static IPs for business
accounts where they can charge more. As far as I can tell, PPPOE is used
by most.
Regards
Si
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From: "Maverick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Mandrake 7.2 + Cable Modem
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:25:20 +0100
Hi, i have a 3Com Cable Modem External USB, and i'd like to know how to
install it on mandrake 7.2 (usb connection not ethernet) and configure the
internet?
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From: Sujay Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: problem with rsh
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:08:52 -0400
I am trying to get rsh to work in redhat 7.1. I have the .rhosts and
/etc/hosts.equiv files with all the hostnames and I have uncommented the
relevant lines (corresponding to "shell" ) in /etc/inetd.conf
WHen I type rsh localhost it prints the message 'connection refused' .
Any suggestions what am I missing? Does redhat 7.1 uses xinetd ? Am I
modifying the wrong files?
Thanks
-Sujay
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From: "TechSupport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP PLEASE
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:42:44 -0500
I started a new job, and the PC they gave me previously had linux installed
on it. when i format and FDISK, it doesn't show the linux partition at all,
but a 6 gig hard drive is still only showing 3 gig. can someone please tell
me how to remove the linux partition?
Thank you in advance,
Timothy Redus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Patching 2.4.3 kernel with XFS doesn't work
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:44:53 GMT
On May 31, 2001 at 12:28, vrw eloquently wrote:
>Hi all,
>When I tried to patch a vanilla 2.4.3 kernel with SGI's
>"linux-2.4.3-core-xfs-1.0.patch.gz" patch and then tried to compile the
>kernel, it went bye-bye during the 'make dep' phase; it was complaining
>about sth. missing in the "openpromfs" directory, and there were also
>problems with 'pagebuf'. (Can supply actual errors if needed.)
>Does anyone know whether this is my shining ignorance of how to set this
>patch up, or is it a known problem with a workaround ?
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>I REALLY wanna see how XFS performs... :o)
Grab CVSup, download and use the SGI CVS source tree.
This is what I currently use.
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When you're down and out, lift up your voice and shout, "I'M DOWN AND OUT"!
4:43pm up 2 days, 38 min, 12 users, load average: 4.34, 4.15, 3.98
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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx through proxy
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:49:51 +0100
It seems that on Mon, 28 May 2001 21:40:24 +0100, someone claiming to be
"Jesper Petersen" <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk> typed this:
>>That isn't a proxy, its a proxy autoconfiguration script (JavaScript
>>that tells the browser what proxy to use for what URLs.) Find out the
>>actual proxy.
>
> I've also tried proxy.civil.auc.dk and wwwproxy.civil.auc.dk that should
> be a proxy, shouldn't it?
Might be. Might not be. Its up the the domain owner what hosts are called.
> Is it correct that only lynx.cfg that have to be modified to use a
> proxy?
I've only ever done it with command line parameters, but I don't use a
proxy on a regular basis.
--
David Dorward http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
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From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Subject: Re: Lynx through proxy
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:00:20 +0200
>> I've also tried proxy.civil.auc.dk and wwwproxy.civil.auc.dk that should
>> be a proxy, shouldn't it?
>
>Might be. Might not be. Its up the the domain owner what hosts are called.
>
>> Is it correct that only lynx.cfg that have to be modified to use a
>> proxy?
>
>I've only ever done it with command line parameters, but I don't use a
>proxy on a regular basis.
It works now, thanks for your help.
Jesper
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From: "W. van den Akker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PAM and LDAP
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:06:55 +0200
Hi,
Is there any practical example of how LDAP must be filled in to perform
as a PAM backend?
I can't get LDAP work together with PAM....
TIA
Willem
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Postscript print netatalk samba
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:36:23 -0500
I use RedHat 7.1 with ghostscript 5.50, Samba 2.0.8r1.7.1, and Netatalk
1.5pre2 wth win98 and MacOS9.1 on my lan.
I have an Epson Stylus 777i printer that works great using the following
driver:
RedHat 7.1 Printtool
driver stcany.upp 360dpi
driver stp.upp 1440x720dpi
Using these drivers I can print from RedHat and Win98 but not from the mac.
Starting lpd I get this error:
cant locate module char-major-180
I have used some different Adobe files for the papd.conf in netatalk:
LaserWriter IINT
LaserWriter IINTX
Epson Color Stylus 800, stp.upp, 1440x720dpi
All of the Color Stylus printers use the stp driver under RedHat
Printtool and Ghostscript at all resolutions except 2880dpi.
If I want a photo I move the printer to the mac, but networking it
through Samba and Netatalk is much easier for normal print.
All the ppd files are read by the mac using AdobePS driver and
LaserWriter8 driver, both are working fine.
The AdobePS driver gives more support for options, and both recognizes
all of the Apple and Epson ppd files on the mac.
When I print from the mac i get this error:
lp_init: lock: No such file or directory
lp_open failed
I have read the howto on netatalk and printing and have found no mention
of the lock files.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Jeff Moore
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From: "Matt Fleharty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Install Problem
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:42:50 -0600
The installation asks for disk2 but says "the cd-rom cannot be mounted."
I can read the contents of the cd from windows, so it looks like everything
burned properly from the image file. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Matt
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From: "Matt King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: problem with rsh
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:58:04 -0700
Did you restarted the xinetd daemon?
"Sujay Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to get rsh to work in redhat 7.1. I have the .rhosts and
> /etc/hosts.equiv files with all the hostnames and I have uncommented the
> relevant lines (corresponding to "shell" ) in /etc/inetd.conf
> WHen I type rsh localhost it prints the message 'connection refused' .
> Any suggestions what am I missing? Does redhat 7.1 uses xinetd ? Am I
> modifying the wrong files?
> Thanks
> -Sujay
>
>
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From: john paul miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual booting and mp3 sharing
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:59:54 -0500
What's the best way to partition my hard drive for dual booting with win98
and linux (either mandrake or redhat) if I want to keep all my mp3's on a
separate partition? What file system should I use for the mp3 partition?
I have a 14 gb hard drive, and was thinking of this:
2-3 gb for win98 and programs
6-8 gb for mp3s
2-3 gb for linux and programs
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:19:30 GMT
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With both systems I can see the Lucent WinModem in /proc/pci. Peter logically
> says that the PCI bus reports this information to the boot process, I suppose
> through PCI bus software?
Well, through the kernel. One of the first things it does is to
interrogate the pci bus and get its device map.
> With both systems ttyS0/COM1 is assigned IRQ4 and IO port 0x03F8. With RH I am
> also seeing a ttyS14 assigned with IRQ10 and IO port 0xD800, I think it is. I am
Yes. That's the "fake serial device" created by the ltmodem.o driver.
> not seeing ttyS14 with the debian system yet. From what I have read my impression
Well, you haven't loaded the driver! Where are you "seeing" (or not)
this? I would imagine you'd see this in the kernel messages emitted
when the driver is loaded.
> putting these two together it makes sense that the scenario plays out like this:
> the boot process sees this "modem" on the PCI bus and sets-up this software ttyS14
> serial port for it, powered by either the kernal or serial drivers I guess, and
> subsequently the modem driver sends its data to that software serial port.
Uh, no. No.
There is no "boot process". There is a kernel. It boots and scans the
bus for pci devices. When the kernel has finished booting, it launches
init, the first process. Init then runs through the "init scripts",
doing what they say, and setting up the running system for you. One of
those scripts may well load the ltmodem.o driver, at which point you
will see a message about ttyS14. And if you hope to use it, you had
better have created the /dev/ttyS14 by then, with major 62 and minor
78.
> Now if this scenario is right then something is wrong with my debian system
> because it should be setting up ttyS14 because of the detected modem on the PCI
The scenario is not right, and nothing is wrong.
> bus. If this scenario is wrong and the modem driver is what actually drives the
> "creation" of ttyS14 then I stll have a shot at success, I guess. But it is
It doesn't drive the creation. Device files are created by you. Their
major number is a clue to the kernel as to what driver to use when
you signal wink or blink at them. Major 62 will access the ltmodem
driver, if it is loaded.
> curious how RH is settling all this because the modem driver is definently being
> loaded last in the boot process.
So what? There's nothing to do except load the driver.
Peter
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp get but no put
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:27:13 -0500
Unknown <Unknown> wrote:
> I have a couple of laptops running Redhat 7.0. I somehow
> managed to enable them with ftp but I can only get with them,
> not put. Does that mean they are ftp servers but not clients or
> vice-versa? How do I make my ftp put as well as get?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick
You can 'put' only in your home directory or another directory where your
user account has write permission.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, I'm trying to find COM2
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:29:31 GMT
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You and Peter seem to be telling me that this driver is necessary for the
> modem to be "connected to" or "associated with" with ttyS14. But between what
No, you don't seem to really understand. A device file is just a hook
for the kernel. Its name is unimportant. Call it /dev/MotherHen if you
prefer. It'll still work. The only important thing about it is its
major and minor numbers. The major designates the driver to be
activated when you read and write to the "file". The minor has
a modifying action on the drivers behaviour.
Accessing /dev/MotherHen will do nothing until the ltmodem driver
is loaded.
> I have read and what I am doing this association takes place BEFORE the driver
> is loaded! Can you explain that to me?
The "association" does not take place before the driver is loaded. How
is it that you keep reaching false conclusions? Either your logic or
your base hypotheses are faulty.
> I am going to try to install this module I got from linmodem.org into this
> kernal that my "base" debian system is running. If all goes well and suddenly
> the boot process gives me a /dev/ttyS14 and the modem dials-out on demand then
Boot process? No. You will have the driver loaded as soon as you load
it, that's all. At that point, accesses to /dev/ttyS14 will start
working like they are supposed to. Don't reboot!
> I can only conclude that you and Peter are RIGHT and what I have been reading
> about the boot process is either mis-leading or is not telling the whole
What "boot process"? If you mean the init sequence, that can do
anything. It's just a set of scripts.
Peter
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From: "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Damage root filesystem
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 05:01:54 -0600
I recently installed Red Hat 7.1 on a fresh partition. The day after
the installation, linux froze up and wouldn't respond to
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or Ctrl-Alt-Delete. I was forced to
do a hard reboot. During the next boot, I got some messages
about the root filesystem having inconsistencies and I had to
run fsck to repair them. However, there was some stuff put
in lost+found resulting from inodes fsck didn't know what to
with.
My question is, is it safe to keep using this installation? It
seems to be working. (It's a little flakey, but that's life with linux).
However, I'm wondering what that lost data was and whether
it's likely to pop up in some nasty way some time.
Thanks,
Robert Morelli
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