Linux-Setup Digest #1, Volume #21 Fri, 6 Apr 01 13:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: update to glibc 2.2.2 (John Thompson)
Re: magic partition on linux ? (John Thompson)
Re: how to dis-partition? (Dave Brown)
Re: Tweaking memory management (Paul Kimoto)
help with tomsrtbt (Robert Davis)
Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: mail and attachments ("Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III")
Help needed with upgrading RH using RPMs. (hoffmyster)
Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux) (Arthur Sowers)
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: update to glibc 2.2.2
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:46:27 -0500
chris wrote:
> I have attempted to update glibc to v.2.2.2 with rpms from the
> updates.redhat.com site. When I try i get errors (dependencies) [rpm
> -Uvh] and I don't want to screw up the system by doing a --nodeps.
> Any ideas.
You don't say what version of glibc you're trying to update, but
my experience with updating glibc2.0 => glibc2.1 suggests that it
can be quite tricky. The glibc libraries are used by so many
programs that it is quite easy to make your system unusable. I
finally made the switch by updating RH v5.1 to v6.1. Now with
the growing abundance of pre-compiled binaries expecting
glibc2.2, I've taken to compiling from source to continue using
the glibc2.1 libraries on my system.
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: magic partition on linux ?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:55:56 -0500
alfred hammerfield wrote:
> is there a utility on linux that permit to redistrubut disk partitions
> like partition-magic on Win NT4 ?
> my system: redhat 6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5
If you already have Partition Magic, you may as well use that.
PM since v4 has been able to create, resize and move linux ext2
and swap partitions. I've used it for this many times. There is
a DOS batch script on the Partition Magic CD that will create a
bootable floppy disk set from which you can run the DOS version
of Partition Magic. The DOS version is just as capable as the
Win version and as far as I can tell only lacks the "wizards" to
hold your hand during operations.
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to dis-partition?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2001 21:52:04 -0500
In article <v18z6.237$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ekkis wrote:
>
>"Floyd Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Become root, and go to single user mode first, with "init s". Then
>> do:
>>
>> mkdir /u1
>> cp -a /usr /u1
>> mv /usr /u2
>> mv /u1/usr /usr
>> umount /dev/hda5
>> rmdir /u2
>> mount -t ext2 /dev/hda5 /u1
>>
>> You can now return to multiuser mode, with "init 5" or whatever
>> is appropriate for your particular Linux distribution. Before
>> deleting files on /dev/hda5 (now mounted on /u1), make sure that
>> things are working OK with the new /usr directory. Once you are
>> satisfied that all is well you can rm the files, just reformat
>> the filesystem, or whatever.
>
>too cool. thx! ok... since I don't have enough room on / to move /usr's
>contents I'll have to shrink /usr and give the space to /. the docs for
>parted don't specifically state it but I imagine a resize kesps data. if
>this isn't the case, please someone scream!
>
>here's my layout:
>
>(parted) print
>Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-19623.515 megabytes
>Disk label type: msdos
>Minor Start End Type Filesystem Flags
>1 0.031 23.532 primary ext2 boot
>2 23.533 19618.439 extended
>5 23.563 8958.120 logical ext2
>6 8958.151 17892.707 logical ext2
>7 17892.738 18151.567 logical ext2
>8 18151.598 18410.427 logical ext2
>9 18410.458 18669.287 logical linux-swap
>
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda8 256667 83514 159901 35% /
>/dev/hda5 9005272 3280128 5267696 39% /usr
>
>and what I mean to do.
>
>parted# resize 5 23.563 4490.842
>parted# move 6 4490.873 13425.429
>parted# move 7 13425.460 13684.289
>parted# resize 8 13684.320 18410.427
It's probably too late for any suggestions, but...
I just got finished reorganizing my first hard disk. I used Partition
Magic, since I had it, and it was a godsend. I'll be anxious to see
how well parted works--someday. (Does is resize FAT32 partitions?)
My suggestion/concern would be in rearranging the order of partitions
--but maybe you've already done that. As I recall, if you delete one
partition, and add another, every partition gets renumbered. So your
/etc/fstab is probably dorked up.
With Partition Magic, I managed to resize and redo partitions with a
minimum of backup/restore actions. (I have both a Slackware installation
and a RH 6.2 installation, which had gotten kinda hodge-podged as I
ran out of space here and there and added partitions to mount where space
was needed.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Tweaking memory management
Date: 6 Apr 2001 11:30:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9ajk1n$t97$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Schuller wrote:
> I can do "free" and see at least 200 megs in the buffers/cache field, but
> still have problems. For example, typically I have some stuff running (20 or
> so rxcts, mozilla, etc). I can start NetBeans (pretty huge Java IDE) and
> work with it with no problems. Then I might start something else (say,
> StarOffice or VisualWorks, etc).
>
> This is where I have 200 megs in the buffers/cache category. But yet,
> NetBeans become really slow due to disk access when compiling and such.
>
> Basically, I have enough RAM to accomodate everything running, but Linux
> doesn't seem to be priorotizing memory usage properly.
>
> Is there anything I can do (besides trying Linux 2.4/FreeBSD :))? Is there
> some tool (or kernel compilation options) that allows me to tweak these
> things?
Have you read Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt?
(Also at http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.2/doc/sysctl/vm.txt.html .)
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: Robert Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: help with tomsrtbt
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:59:18 -0400
I have a older computer at home and it doesnt work with tomsrtbt.
It boots to the point where it is testing the nic card and then locks up.
I believe it says something like 3c574 ... donald becker ....
I have an old nic card. ne2000 compatible, isa, not pnp.
How do I turn off the nic card detection?
How do I detect it correctly?
Where is the correct place to post questions like this?
I tried toms mailing list and it appears to be inactive now because tom lost his dsl
connection.
thanks
bob
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:09:36 GMT
William Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for reading. Does anyone have any guidelines for what
> i should be looking for? i have no idea what kind of processor speed i
Pick up one of those used P100 units with a 14" screen for 100 pounds
sterling. Should be in the nearest 2nd hand computer shop (there's
one on Mill Lane in Cambridge, but dunno where to look in Sussex!).
Make suer you get at least 32MB of ram. 64MB should see you sailing.
For 128MB you'll need a more recent machine - at least a P200.
With enough memory, and old 486 would go well ... but you'll probably
be very happy with anything at about 300MHz and 128MB of ram.
Peter
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From: "Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail and attachments
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:30:08 -0400
Reply-To: mvjap3 at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There may be another alternative...
At home my old slackware 3.5 came with something called mimencode which
used the same encoding as most modern mail software except that it didn't
do the extra header data so you had to specify the filename when decoding,
and most mail programs didn't know it was an attachment, so they didn't
know they could decode it <sigh>
That program isn't installed on the SunOs unix here at work, but here
there are mpack and munpack. with which if you wanted to send a message
with a file attachment that an updated mail program can decode for the
receipiant you would edit a file with the message, and then from the
command line, you would tell mpack the pathname of the message file was a
"description file" and the pathname for the file you want to attach.
I don't know if these come with any linux distros yet...
Or even if they are Gnu licensed software or not...
But the following was snipped from man page...
MPACK(1) MPACK(1)
NAME
mpack - pack a file in MIME format
SYNOPSIS
mpack [ -s subject ] [ -d descriptionfile ] [ -m maxsize ]
[ -c content-type ] file address ...
mpack [ -s subject ] [ -d descriptionfile ] [ -m maxsize ]
[ -c content-type ] -o outputfile file
mpack [ -s subject ] [ -d descriptionfile ] [ -m maxsize ]
[ -c content-type ] -n newsgroups file
DESCRIPTION
The mpack program encodes the the named file in one or
more MIME messages. The resulting messages are mailed to
one or more recipients, written to a named file or set of
files, or posted to a set of newsgroups.
Gotta go... lunch over.
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<O> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
^
\___/ < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, qxb wrote:
> try
> cat file.tar.gz | uuencode file.tar.gz | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "ImaLuzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Can the "mail" program send attachments? I've been looking ALL OVER for
> > information on this and have come up empty.
> >
>
>
>
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From: hoffmyster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help needed with upgrading RH using RPMs.
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:35:34 -0400
In short I am running RH5.2 with the 2.2.14 kernal. All other packages
currently installed shipped with 5.2. My goal is to upgrade to RH7.0.
I've tried to upgrade using the HD procedure. All the packages that
belong in RedHat/RPMS and /base are on this HD. I ran the anaconda
installer program and it crashes. I posted a comment at bugzilla, but
from the looks of the traceback dump file from the crash AND the
astronomical number of reported bugs, I have a feeling the cows could
come home before I get any help from them.
Plan B is now in order. I want to try and install all the packages
I can manually. Before you start rolling your eyes maybe some of you
Linux gurus can empathize with me on this. I just feel this will teach
me far more about Linux than purchasing the CDs and pressing enter and
watching it go. Besides from my experience with the attempted HD
install, I'm not gaurenteed that the CD install will go smoothly after
purchasing 7.0. I have most of the software that will come on the CDs
anyway. I don't have the instimage directory tree that the CDs will
have and I don't have a CD burner nor plan to get one.
Well, there are the whys and what fors that I know some of you would be
questioning me on.
I hoping there will be some of you, at least, that will understand my
reasoning and let me in on some of their experience.
Here is an attempt to describe to you what I am encountering.
In the beginning I was always getting this error message "major numbers
<= 3 not supported by this version of RPM" when trying to install any
package even if the package was named 0.8.0 or 2.2.2 which was curious.
Well, I went and got "rpm-4.0.2-5x.i386.rpm" and it installed. I also
got "db3-3.1.17-4.5x.i386.rpm" to load. So for all intents and purposes
I think the old RPM is gone. I have found a few packages that have
loaded unincumbered now.
My current problem is dependcies. Most of the packages I am trying to
load are saying that this needs this and that needs that. There is a
common thread among practically all of the ones I've tried.
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) or libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2)or libdb.so.2 or
libdb.so.3 or libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by such and such. I run
"rpm -qa | grep glibc" and was getting 2.1.2 I believe it was. Anyway,
I tried installing the latest glibc 2.2-12 and 40 or indepencies popped
up. I then tried 2.1.95. Same thing. I then tried 2.1.3. Low and
behold it installed. I went back and tried 2.1.95 again and it failed.
I try installing the gcc packages and they fail. Mostly because of the
files I mentioned before.
Does anyone here understand my problem and can you shed any light on
where I need to go with this? It seems like these independencies are
forming a vicious circle. I install something one thing needs but that
becomes too new for something else, it seems. Could these packages be
reporting false information that should be ignored?
Thanks for your time in advance.
RLH
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From: Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.questions,comp.os.msdos.misc,linux.redhat.install,sci.research.careers
Subject: Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 16:58:52 GMT
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, G.T. wrote:
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
> >
> > I am aware of five filesystems and some of the advantages and
> > disadvantages of two or three of them. I will stay with the ext2 for the
> > time being.
> >
>
> Well, then, you better power down properly then. Now that you've
> reduced the number of daemons running you probably have less chance of
> corruption but it doesn't mean your risk is gone.
As long as I can run the applications and utilities I need and I have the
level of tollerance I have now to a power interuption, I'll be happy.
> > I'm less interested in "risk" than I am in what WILL or WILL NOT happen.
> >
>
> Depends on what is happening
You mean _processes_ don't you?
when the power goes off, doesn't it? How
> can one say what will or will not happen? We need to know the state the
> machine is in before the power goes off.
Well, how much would you like to know? Just remember, my post was an FYI
and NOT a question. When I posted originally last fall I got few and
unsatisfactory answers, but many were from experienced people.
answers
> > > Why are you cross-posting to groups such as comp.os.msdos.misc
> >
> > There are a lot of bright guys on msdos who know a lot more about OSes,
> > and many different OSes, than you might think. Some of them don't like
> > Windows either.
> >
>
> Why'd you bother saying that?
You asked the question "Why are you cross-posting...."
> Who cares if they like Windows or not?
I do and a lot of others do, too.
> The point is one isn't going to get a wealth of valid information asking
> rec.equestrian how to tune one's car.
You might be surprised.
> >
> > > Talk about shotgun approach to getting an
> > > answer. If you didn't get decent suggestions from the linux newsgroups
> > > for this most basic of problems
> >
> > I've monitored all of the major Linux newsgroups for the better part of a
> > year and the question never came up, at least until I posted my original
> > question. For your information, I have saved all of the most significant
> > replies I got in a folder off my PINE application and will be willing to
> > send you a copy if you wish of each saved reply to show you how I
> > presented the question and what I got in return.
> >
>
> Sure thing.
> > then you should subscribe to one of the
> > > vendor e-mail lists.
> >
> > What makes you think the answer will come out of this any better than what
> > I did? I'd have to wait maybe months to a year for an answer, and maybe an
> > answer would never appear.
> >
>
> Because this and very similar questions have been brought up endlessly
> at least on the SuSE list.
I obtained Red Hat and Caldera distributions, not SuSE.
And the questions have been answered because
> there are many knowledgable people along with SuSE employees on the
> list.
Again, I did not have a SuSE distribution.
I, too, never got decent answers in the Linux newsgroups but I
> sure did from the various mailing lists I subscribed to.
I'll consider mailing lists. Right now I've learned more from reading
books than from the NGs.
> > Knowing a few things about commercial computer/software support and
> > consulting, I will offer that I think I could anticipate that I would be
> > paying money first, and then getting poor answers rather than good
> > answers. The same thing happens with rare diseases and rare medical
> > conditions when they are presented to the medical industry (I have
> > personal experience).
> >
>
> We're not talking about rare diseases here.
The analogy I think is valid.
If you know a few things
> about commercial computer/software support did you not realize it's
> usually best to start with the vendor when looking for help?
Actually I've done this in a number of cases and either did not get
answers to my questions or I got poor answers at best.
> > The SuSE English list is very helpful, don't know
> > > about the Caldera or Redhat ones as I haven't checked them in years.
> >
> > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > Did I answer all of your questions?
> >
> > I know you didn't answer mine.
> >
>
> If you bothered to read the previous messages you should be able to
> figure it out.
I think I answered all of your questions and, again, I will repeat, my
post was an FYI and NOT a question.
> BTW, I never saw your original question. However, the following is from
> your original FYI message:
>
> "All this happened to me several times and upon reboot, the boot process
> hangs somewhere and won't complete."
>
> I hope you weren't that vague in your original pursuit?
I've seen much vaguer questions/situations presented and much greater
kindness and helpfulness offered than you have, here.
Art
> Greg
>
> --
> See http://www.2fortheroad.net for ugly bikes and stale music.
> "Why does a man with nothing to say, he always seems to talk?" - Marc
> Riley
>
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