Linux-Setup Digest #217, Volume #21 Sun, 13 May 01 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: frequent crashes and boot problems (coffee)
Re: No sound; Something wrong with mixer. Help (Dave Uhring)
Re: SQUID and ASP? (Nils Holland)
Re: VIAxxx86 soundcards. (Nils Holland)
Mandrake installation error msg (Ko-Chen Wu)
About SunCompose key (Fabio S.)
Re: SQUID and ASP? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Kernel Panic Formatting drive on RH 7.1 install (Marco Radzinschi)
Re: Newb question: which distribution? (Chiefy)
mounting floppy drive (Me)
Re: SQUID and ASP? (Nils Holland)
Re: About SunCompose key (Michael Heiming)
Re: Linux Graphic workstation (E J)
Re: About SunCompose key (Fabio S.)
Re: AT commands for external modem (Steve Martin)
Re: dual booting problem (Steve Martin)
Re: Linux Graphic workstation (Steve Martin)
hard drive installation or upgrade (KCmaniac)
Re: Red Hat Linux 7.1 ? (Will Howard)
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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: frequent crashes and boot problems
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:16:50 GMT
Bernard DEBREIL wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply. I haven't been able to find a memory test (mem86 does
> not seem to be implemented on my system). However, I doubt if any memory
> fault would not be detected during the boot process... My system is on a dual
> boot, and it seems to work OK on Windows 98 (but, true enough, I spend as
> least time as possible on Windows ! otherwise I might have noticed problems
> there too). What I was wondering about, was that my problems might originate
> from a local network to which I am connected... However, if I unplug the wire
> to that network, nothing changes as far as frequent crashes... By the way, I
> forgot to say that, about one every three times, I cannot even boot my system
> ! It crashes somewhere during the boot process (on various places, not
> always the same), and then I have to disconnect the machine and try again.
> Some other times, the system seems to remain OK for 2 or 3 days in a roll...
>
> Thanks in advance for more hints...
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > > Installation went OK, but I got frequent crashes. More and more frequent
> > > unexpected crashes. I came to think that it must come from the APM
> > <snip>
> > > to connect to local intranet and internet all right. Besides this, the
> > > new system does crash about as often as the one before. I have tried
> > > compiling a third kernel, but, this time, I got more problems : the
> > > compiler crashed before achievement of its job ! I tried several
> > > times, and it crashed each time at different points with various error
> > > messages. The third or fourth time, I finally got the kernel compiled
> > > all right... but, once launched, it does not behave any differently than
> > > the two others : frequent crashes... maybe twice a week, and,
> > > sometimes, several times in a single day... while, on my home system, it
> > > NEVER happened that I had a crash that I could not recover in just
> >
> > you have bad RAM.
> >
> > check it (eg. with memtest86 (?)) if you want to be sure.
> > But all signs point in this direction.
> >
> > Eric
Im replying to this because I just helped an associate solve a similar
problem.
Here are some more ideas as per crashing:
1. Yes, Ram can be a problem. Windows seems to be (at times) more
lieniant on
hardware than Unix system are. Thus problems that dont show up in
windows will
show up in Unix systems.
Testing ram with "test programs" is not a very good way to actually test
if the
ram is actually bad. It will catch major problems with the ram but if
your dropping one bit over a long period of time the test program may
not catch it but unix will. Also, Test programs send a set pattern of
tests. I recommend
actually running a kernal compile. This will point out any short
commings in
system hardware (sig9,11 crashes).
2. System overheating. I have dealt with systems (pentium +) that
actually had
poor fans, No heatsink compound, slow or stopped fans, dirty heatsinks
and dust
in general that cause a processor to heat up enough to cause a problem.
3. Miss matched memory, Poorly seated memory... Things like that.
What I found really interesting after doing some research is the method
of
creating ram memory. They dont make 60,70 ns ect.. ram. They create a
batch of
ram and then subject it to tests. If it passes the criteria for
(example) 60ns
then its 60ns ram. They dont just run different lines for PC100,PC133,
ect..
4. Cache Memory could be not up to snuff. Turn off cache memory in bios
and test it.
5. Increase your wait states in bios if you can. See if this solves the
problem.
We actually found a network card that was crashing a RH7.1 install just
the
other day. Go figure.....
Hope this helps anyone in the group that is having problems with
crashes.
coffee
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,creative.products.sound_blaster.live
Subject: Re: No sound; Something wrong with mixer. Help
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:20:21 -0500
grendel wrote:
>
> I have a soundblaster live value and have followed the directions in the
> article in the SuSE sdb called "ALSA update for SuSE SuSE 6.4/7.0/7.1 and
> do not have sound. After the alsa update my card was recognized by
> alsaconfig. However when it trys to adjust the volumes and change the
> mixer it fails. No asound.conf is created. Here are the error messages. I
> have verified that the sound drivers are loaded. They even say this using
> "alsasound status".
>
> "Could not initialize..."
>
> "No mixer config in the /etc/asounf.conf. You have to unmute your card.
> Mixer 0/0 'open error."
>
>
>
> I've even tryed manually unmuting the mixer and even accessing it via
> amixer but I always get the message about the "Mixer 0/0 ' open error.
> Even when I try different device names this happens. Thanks.
>
>
>
# cat /proc/asound/sndstat
# lsmod
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SQUID and ASP?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:18:27 +0200
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> On Sat, 12 May 2001, Nils Holland wrote:
>
>> anybody out there using the SQUID web-proxy? If so, please try accessing
>> http://www.wizards.com/international/uk/gencon01.asp from a browser
>> that's using the proxy. What do you see? I guess it's the following error
>> message:
>
> Using squid 2.3STABLE4 works fine in netscape 4.77. It does not work in
> Konqueror 2.1.1.
>
>> Now, try accessing the same URL without SQUID. You can also use wget.
>> What happens? You get the requested page, right?
>
> Eh, I have forced proxy, so I cannot - but to me it seems like a browser
> problem and not a squid problem.
Yes, you are right. The problem has been tracked down now. Seems that the
site has problems with konqueror and Netscape 6. Netscape 4.x and MSIE seem
to work. I have contacted the administrators of the website about that
issue. Actually, their ASP-script crashes. Even if it isn't suppoed to run
with konqueror or Netscape 6, it shouldn't simply crash but tell the user
to use a different browser. And since all the other pages belonging to that
website work well with konqueror and Netscape 6, I don't see why they
shouldn't be able to fix their script so that also the page that causes
trouble will work.
Greetings
Nils
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIAxxx86 soundcards.
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:15:46 +0200
Dave Uhring wrote:
> The kernel modules load OK on my system, but the sound quality sucks big
> time. Comment out the lines in /etc/modules.conf dealing with sound and
> install the alsa drivers. www.alsa-project.org. Get them loaded by
> adding the following to the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
>
> modprobe snd-card-via686a
> modprobe snd-pcm-oss
> aumix -v100 -w100
>
> /proc/asound/sndstat still indicates that Synth devices are not enabled
> but the sound quality of RealPlayer is pretty good.
Interesting! My system has via686 onboard sound, and when I tried the
alsa-drivers I couldn't get it to produce any reasonable sound quality. The
driver that comes with the Linux kernel does, however, work fine...
Greetings
Nils
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From: Ko-Chen Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake installation error msg
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 02:21:30 +1000
Hello,
I am installing Mandrake 8.0 and I kept getting the error "no hdlists
found". Could anyone please help ??
The spec of my system is roughly this:
Dual Celeron 500 CPU
256MB RAM
Have both WinME and Win2000 installed.
Have 20GB HD partitioned into 2 parts and 3rd one for all the Linux
related partitions
If anyone could help, it would really be greatly appreciated .. else I am
really looking at getting rid of WinDoze totally .. :)
Also, I am using telstra cable, but I can't quite find the program to
logon to the network .. if anyone knows where I can get access to it,
please please let me know, too ... :))
Thank you so much~~
Chen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabio S.)
Subject: About SunCompose key
Date: 13 May 2001 16:49:59 GMT
Hi,
does anybody knows which is the file containing the definition for the
variuos "SunCompose" combinations? I looked for it in the /usr/X11R6
directory but I didn't realized which one is the right one.
(In particular, I am trying to produce the euro symbol with an america
keyboard).
Thanks a lot
Fabio
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SQUID and ASP?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:51:00 +0200
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Nils Holland wrote:
> Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 12 May 2001, Nils Holland wrote:
> >
> >> anybody out there using the SQUID web-proxy? If so, please try accessing
> >> http://www.wizards.com/international/uk/gencon01.asp from a browser
> >> that's using the proxy. What do you see? I guess it's the following error
> >> message:
>
> Yes, you are right. The problem has been tracked down now. Seems that the
> site has problems with konqueror and Netscape 6. Netscape 4.x and MSIE seem
> to work. I have contacted the administrators of the website about that
> issue. Actually, their ASP-script crashes. Even if it isn't suppoed to run
> with konqueror or Netscape 6, it shouldn't simply crash but tell the user
> to use a different browser. And since all the other pages belonging to that
> website work well with konqueror and Netscape 6, I don't see why they
> shouldn't be able to fix their script so that also the page that causes
> trouble will work.
Btw it does not work with mozilla 0.9 either. But it works fine in
Konqueror, if you configure it to pretend being a netscape (user agent
settings).
Rasmus
--
-- [ Rasmus 'M�ffe' B�g Hansen ] --------------------------------------
I'm a bastard. I have absolutely no clue why people can ever think
otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is
that I'm a scheming, conniving bastard who doesn't care for any hurt
feelings or lost hours of work if it just results in what I consider
to be a better system.
- Linus Torvalds
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From: Marco Radzinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Panic Formatting drive on RH 7.1 install
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:01:01 GMT
Hello:
I am trying to install Red Hat Linux 7.1 on a 486 DX-2 66 MHz with
32 MB of RAM and a 512MB Hard Disk. I can boot the install diskette in
text mode, and go through the whole configuration, up to partitioning the
drive. After partitioning, it makes me enable swap space because it wants
more RAM, and that goes fine. Then when I select the packages I want and
it goes to format the drive, I get a kernel panic message, the screen
keeps scrolling without end, and I have to power off the computer.
I know the hardware is configured correctly because I can install and boot
windows 95 on the box. I told the Red Hat setup not to use linear mode,
as I figure a 486 would not have it. I tried both ways though. I also
noticed that during boot, the kernel was assuming a 50 MHz IDE bus, so I
gave the install diskette the idebus=33 paramater, but this did not help.
Does anyone know what might be causing this, and how to fix it?
Thank you...
--
Marco Radzinschi
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL IM: CrackedBoy
"Then, in the dark hour before dawn, sirens blasted. They were announcing
departures for a world that now and forever meant nothing to me. . . . And
I felt ready to live it all again too. As if that blind rage had washed me
clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs
and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world.
Finding it so much like myself--so like a brother, really--I felt that I
had been happy and that I was happy again." --Meursault of The Stranger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: Newb question: which distribution?
Date: 13 May 2001 17:02:22 GMT
13 May 2001 15:01 GMT, Barend Aersmade did say to the dudes:
> I would like to setup Linux on my second HD and boot into it with a floppy
> drive, so when others (my kids) turn on the computer, no bootmanager will
> appear but it would boot straight into windows. Is this possible?
Of course, this is Linux :-)
> Which distribution should I choose then?
It's all very subjective, you should try a few distros yourself and
follow with your own inclinations.
That said, Debian is *very* cool.
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the straps!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Me)
Subject: mounting floppy drive
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:58:34 +0000 (UTC)
I want normal users to be able to mount floppys so they can read them from my
RedHat 6.2. But mount replies that "only root can do that."
The floppy device is owned by root with group floppy and permissions
brw-rw----. In fstab, the entry for the device is as follows:
/dev/fd0 /mnt auto noauto,users 0 0
Is there something wrong with this?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SQUID and ASP?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:14:04 +0200
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> Btw it does not work with mozilla 0.9 either. But it works fine in
> Konqueror, if you configure it to pretend being a netscape (user agent
> settings).
Yes, konqueror can do it with a modified USER-AGENT string. I have just
verified it. I don't know about mozilla 0.9, though.
Anyway, according to my understanding it's clearly the fault of a website
programmer if his script crashes when encountering some specific browsers.
As I said, I contacted the webmaster of that site because some of the users
in the network I manage regularely access pages on that site. I hope that
they'll fix it, otherwise there's nothing I can do about it...
Greetings,
Nils
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 20:06:20 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About SunCompose key
"Fabio S." wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> does anybody knows which is the file containing the definition for the
> variuos "SunCompose" combinations? I looked for it in the /usr/X11R6
> directory but I didn't realized which one is the right one.
>
> (In particular, I am trying to produce the euro symbol with an america
> keyboard).
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Fabio
What about using:
grep -r SunCompose /usr/X11R6
To find out.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Graphic workstation
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:29:09 GMT
Try to stick with the latest distro of Linux that has the new XFree86.
Geforce 2 might be hard to set up with older XFree86.
James wrote:
> What will be a good setup for a Linux workstation for use with Blender and
> GIMP?
> currently I'm using a 800Mhz Duran, 256mb PC133 ram, 30gigHD, Geforce 2
> video card. I'm asking cause I planning on building another box, now if my
> current setup is good then I'll stick with (plus its cheap) Or should I go
> with a more up to date setup.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabio S.)
Subject: Re: About SunCompose key
Date: 13 May 2001 18:38:27 GMT
Il Sun, 13 May 2001 20:06:20 +0200, Michael Heiming ha scritto:
>What about using:
>
>grep -r SunCompose /usr/X11R6
>
I already tried it (I also tried find /usr/X11R6 -name *Sun* -print).
With grep, the only file that matched was
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
which doesn't help me.
Fabio
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AT commands for external modem
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:59:21 -0400
Barbara Barry wrote:
>
> I currently have an external ZyXEL Omni TA128 using standard AT
> command set working perfectly under OS/2 to my ISP.
>
> I just installed RedHat 7.0 on the same PC with a
> dual boot.
>
> I am trying to configure the TA128 to work with Linux. I used
> the same initialization string as with OS/2 and the terminal
> replies OK and the DTE 1 DTR light comes on.
>
> I found a reference in the modem documentation for a
> standard UNIX register - &C1. Does RH use this standard instead
> of what I use with OS/2? I have tried all these combinations:
>
> ATDT 817-317-0100
> ATDT8173170100
> ATDT 817-317-0100 &C1
> ATDT8173170100&C1
> ATDI 817-317-0100
> ATDI8173170100
> ATDI 817-317-0100 &C1
> ATDI8173170100&C1
Looks like you might have forgotten to put the "1" in
(I'm assuming the number you're trying to call is long-
distance?) Without it, the call probably won't go through.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dual booting problem
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:01:37 -0400
Stanislav Girin wrote:
>
> Hellow.
> In primary partition is placed Win NT with NTFS. Far behind 1024 cylinder in
> the extended partition is installed Red Hat Linux ( 3 logical partitions ).
> So dual booting from hard drive possible only if NT Loader can run
> Linux(Lilo was installed to Linux partition and now loads with floppy.)
>
> Attemptions to use the approach described in HOW-TO were unseccessful -
> command
> dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
> on my comp made boot image with zeros ( 512 zero ).
>
> May be somebody also can explane where is placed Linux partition boot sector
> and LILO in my case - Linux has been installed in logical partitions.
What does your partition table look like on this drive? I'm not really
an expert, but I don't think /dev/hda2 indicates a logical partition.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Graphic workstation
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:02:58 -0400
James wrote:
>
> What will be a good setup for a Linux workstation for use with Blender and
> GIMP?
> currently I'm using a 800Mhz Duran, 256mb PC133 ram, 30gigHD, Geforce 2
> video card. I'm asking cause I planning on building another box, now if my
> current setup is good then I'll stick with (plus its cheap) Or should I go
> with a more up to date setup.
Whatever hardware you go with, get the latest XFree86 so you can
hardware-
accelerate the Geforce 3D ops. You won't believe what a difference it
makes
with Blender...
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hard drive installation or upgrade
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:04:51 -0400
Has anyone out there ever successfully installed or upgraded their
RedHat system from a hard drive?
I have followed all instructions in accordance with the RedHat site
explaining how to do this but the install program crashes.
I have downloaded all the packages out of the RPMS directory using
several different FTP sites. I downloaded all the files from the base
directory and copied the boot.img file to a disk. It seems as soon as
the installer gets to a point to where it is going to use these files on
the hard drive, it crashes. It appears it is having a problem with one
or more of these files.
I should also include that there is one particular file out of the base
directory that I continually have had a problem with downloading from
every FTP site I have tried. The file is called stage2.img. It never
seems to ever successfully download for me. It apparently is a huge
file (some 87 MB). Has anyone ever successfully downloaded this file?
Does anyone know what it is?
Thanks for any help, advise or feedback.
RLH
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From: Will Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7.1 ?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:08:26 -0400
If Wolverine is RH7.1, then what is Seawolf? I'm currently on their
FTP site downloading the ISO's ? I'm curious...
/pub/redhat/redhat-7.1-en/iso/i386/seawolf-i386-SRPMS.iso
Will
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:04:57 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>To paraphrase Mark Twain: "The news about my birth is greatly
>exaggerated"
>Red Hat Linux 7.1 is not out yet. The beta version of Red Hat Linux 7.1
>(Wolverine) is.
>
>Jussi Torhonen wrote:
>
>> Red Hat Linux 7.1 has obviously been released and being currently
>> mirrored. Does anyone here know when those mirrors can be opened for
>> downloading ? Now every mirror has too restricted access for anonymous
>> user to download the stuff.
>>
>> Jussi
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