Linux-Setup Digest #284, Volume #21 Tue, 22 May 01 16:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Newbie Log Rotation Question ("Peter T. Breuer")
linux freezing ("alik blochin")
Another log rotationquestion (Thomas)
Another log rotating problem... (Thomas)
Re: Netscape Communicator 4.77 disappeared on install (George Shapovalov)
Another log rotating problem... (Thomas)
Re: can't compile qt-2.3.0 with -xft. Why? ("ne...")
Re: Need a little hand holding here...please? (George Shapovalov)
Re: Need a little hand holding here...please? (George Shapovalov)
Re: rh 7.1 install (Mike Flys)
Re: Need a little hand holding here...please? (Joel Comeaux)
SCSI: aborting command due to timeout (Xiaoqin Qiu)
Re: INN news server question ("tin")
BIOS Operating System (BIOSOS) (long). (Hermann Samso)
Re: RH 7.1 Xconfigurator vs SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 49) (Wayne Throop)
Win98 sees extra (ext2?) drive after RH 6.2 install.. (Kishore Gummadidala)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Log Rotation Question
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:17:53 +0200
Shonne D Beavers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using snort and my /var/log/message is getting huge. I think that the
> log needs to be rotated, where I want to have it saved and then started
> fresh. I want the files saved as /var/log/messages.1<date>. How do I do
> this, or where do I get documents to do this.
man logrotate.
> I am using SuSE 7.1
Peter
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From: "alik blochin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux freezing
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:49:35 +0200
Hi
i have a very strange problem:
i recently installed mandrake 8.0 and everything goes alright but every 2-3
hours i get a completely freezed system(only power button helps)
and nothing seems wrong:
all the drivers are installed properly....
The system freezes particulary on screensaver...
has anybody seen this before ?
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From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another log rotationquestion
Date: 22 May 2001 12:04:12 -0500
Unlike the recent posting my logs are being rotated but the message log
remains zero bytes big every time this happens. I have to restart
syslogd to get it to log propperly again.
I am running a suse 6.3. I have entered /sbin/init.d/syslog on the end
of the /var/log/messages line in /etc/logfiles hoping this would restart
sysslogd automatically but that doesen't change a thing....
Thanks,
Thomas
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From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another log rotating problem...
Date: 22 May 2001 12:05:02 -0500
Unlike the recent posting my logs are being rotated but the message log
remains zero bytes big every time this happens. I have to restart
syslogd to get it to log propperly again.
I am running a suse 6.3. I have entered /sbin/init.d/syslog on the end
of the /var/log/messages line in /etc/logfiles hoping this would restart
sysslogd automatically but that doesen't change a thing....
Thanks,
Thomas
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From: George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator 4.77 disappeared on install
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:03:35 -0700
1. As far as I remember Netscape installs you need to run it from
terminal (use eterm since you are using gnome, under kde you would use
konsole, but just any one is fine).
cd /comm
./install-script.sh (or whatever it is named), it will ask you some
questions
2. In order to locate files in such situatio and just generally when
installing enything (except may be when you install rpm, dpkg or untar
something) I would STRONGLY recommend doing following:
umount unnecessary partitions (like vfat disks if you have any; this
will save you some time and space)
find />pkg-name.before
do_your_install_here
find />pkg-name.after
diff pkg-name.after pkg-name.before >pkg-name.lst
Last generated file will contain listing of all changes (if you install
over existing version you may do 'find / -ls>...' instead. man find for
more options).
Also if you are doing ./configure;make;make install dance, apparently
only make install should be immerced in finds.
Barret Spangler wrote:
> OK, I downloaded the communicator-v477-yadda-yadda.tar.gz file and
> moved it to /comm (I created that directory for this purpose). Did a
> 'tar zxf' on it and ran the ns-install script file from the file
> manager in GNOME. It was SUPPOSED to (as far as my understanding of
> the README) install all of the files to /usr/local/netscape, but that
> didn't happen. The directory never showed up under any of the other
> directories. However, all of the files DID leave the /comm directory.
> Weird. I then created the /usr/local/netscape directory and then tar
> zxf again to get the files back into the /comm directory and again ran
> the ns-config script. And, just like before, the files went SOMEWHERE,
> but not into ../netscape. I checked under /comm to see if they somehow
> went there, nope. Checked both of the logs that were generated, they
> tell me that the files were created, but not their location. Used the
> GNOME search function to try to locate any files named netscape, no
> dice. I have redhat 6.2 with all the standard fixins. (just
> installed last night, still new to this whole CLI thing) Any ideas, or
> do I deserve a thorough LARTing for somehow screwing up a simple
> install. Oh, I was never able to find an RPM for it. A newbie
> mistake, to be sure, but hey. I'm a newbie and I freely admit
> it. Thanks in advance. barret
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From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another log rotating problem...
Date: 22 May 2001 12:06:07 -0500
Unlike the recent posting my logs are being rotated but the message log
remains zero bytes big every time this happens. I have to restart
syslogd to get it to log propperly again.
I am running a suse 6.3. I have entered /sbin/init.d/syslog on the end
of the /var/log/messages line in /etc/logfiles hoping this would restart
sysslogd automatically but that doesen't change a thing....
Thanks,
Thomas
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't compile qt-2.3.0 with -xft. Why?
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:16:50 GMT
On May 22, 2001 at 15:51, J�rgen Diez eloquently wrote:
>"Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>You need atleast xfree 4.03
>
>I've patched my 4.02 up to 4.03 but it still doesn't work
You also need freetpye 2. Search around on http://keithp.com/~keithp/
for further info.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Theory is gray, but the golden tree of life is green.
-- Goethe
1:15pm up 2 days, 13:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a little hand holding here...please?
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:40:04 -0700
Sure it is not as simple. And if you will think for just one more moment
you'll understand why.
What happens when your 'cp -r / /mnt/suse' gets to copying /mnt/suse? ;-) (I
did that once already, nothing too terrible though as you overfill only backup
partition, and I as well like to keep some minimal install on some far
partition :-)).
So you have to specify all the folders in / one by one in your command
line:
cd /
cp -a b* dev lib _the-rest-of-it_ /your/path/here
omit lost+found (it gets autocreated on ext2 when problems are found, and
doesn't make sence on reiserfs)
you also don't want to copy /proc and apparently /mnt and it does not make
sence to transfer /tmp. Just do
cd /your/new/root
mkdir tmp proc (I actually prefer doing ln -s usr/tmp tmp, since my /usr is
separate big partition)
then umount /your/new/root
mount /dev/whatever /root/mnt (for example, but NOT under /mnt)
cp -a /mnt /your/new/root
Also, did you notice the use of -a option? This will preserve links (and not
just copy files instead) and permissions in addition. (man cp, its not too
long).
Joel Comeaux wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> Well, I've been testing distros and finally settled on one. I'd been
> dual booting between SuSE 7.1 and RH 7.1. If I want to get rid of SuSE
> 7.1, and make a duplicate of the RH 7.1 in it's place....
>
> mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/suse
> rm -r -f /mnt/suse/*
> cp -r /* /mnt/suse/.
>
> Surely...can't be that easy? Normally, I'd just RTFM....and I definitely
> have in this case (put a lot of work into this install of RH), but I guess
> I just need the "warm and fuzzy" feeling.
>
> Also, I plan to keep it this way, to make backups. Using the fastest
> partition to work with and making backups to the second. Is that a sound
> plan? It's been really great having a seperate partition to fall back
> on....as I'm not really a newbie, but have alot to learn, I've kindof
> "messed up" a time or two, but been able to recover nicely with the
> additional distro to boot into. Heh.....dual booting is so much nicer,
> when there are no windoze partitions to deal with.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joel
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From: George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a little hand holding here...please?
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:06:24 -0700
And dont forget to edit transferred etc/fstab before you reboot, otherwise you
will have two lilo entries which in fact will boot you to the same distribution.
Also speaking of lilo, rerun it with new kernel. Now this is VERY important to
edit lilo.conf and run lilo right after copying your files. Otherwise if your
other distribution was listed in lilo.conf you won't be able to boot (lilo will
try to look for an old kernel and give up), but you have a boot disk or at least
disk with lilo pointing only to your chosed distributoin, don't you?
George Shapovalov wrote:
> Sure it is not as simple. And if you will think for just one more moment
> you'll understand why.
> What happens when your 'cp -r / /mnt/suse' gets to copying /mnt/suse? ;-) (I
> did that once already, nothing too terrible though as you overfill only backup
> partition, and I as well like to keep some minimal install on some far
> partition :-)).
> So you have to specify all the folders in / one by one in your command
> line:
> cd /
> cp -a b* dev lib _the-rest-of-it_ /your/path/here
>
> omit lost+found (it gets autocreated on ext2 when problems are found, and
> doesn't make sence on reiserfs)
> you also don't want to copy /proc and apparently /mnt and it does not make
> sence to transfer /tmp. Just do
> cd /your/new/root
> mkdir tmp proc (I actually prefer doing ln -s usr/tmp tmp, since my /usr is
> separate big partition)
> then umount /your/new/root
> mount /dev/whatever /root/mnt (for example, but NOT under /mnt)
> cp -a /mnt /your/new/root
>
> Also, did you notice the use of -a option? This will preserve links (and not
> just copy files instead) and permissions in addition. (man cp, its not too
> long).
>
> Joel Comeaux wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> > Well, I've been testing distros and finally settled on one. I'd been
> > dual booting between SuSE 7.1 and RH 7.1. If I want to get rid of SuSE
> > 7.1, and make a duplicate of the RH 7.1 in it's place....
> >
> > mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/suse
> > rm -r -f /mnt/suse/*
> > cp -r /* /mnt/suse/.
> >
> > Surely...can't be that easy? Normally, I'd just RTFM....and I definitely
> > have in this case (put a lot of work into this install of RH), but I guess
> > I just need the "warm and fuzzy" feeling.
> >
> > Also, I plan to keep it this way, to make backups. Using the fastest
> > partition to work with and making backups to the second. Is that a sound
> > plan? It's been really great having a seperate partition to fall back
> > on....as I'm not really a newbie, but have alot to learn, I've kindof
> > "messed up" a time or two, but been able to recover nicely with the
> > additional distro to boot into. Heh.....dual booting is so much nicer,
> > when there are no windoze partitions to deal with.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Flys)
Date: 22 May 2001 18:45:24 GMT
Subject: Re: rh 7.1 install
>Sounds like a damaged CD. Get a replacement copy.
>
Thats what i thought it might be but i was just checking with everyone. Thanks!
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From: Joel Comeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a little hand holding here...please?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:07:16 -0500
George Shapovalov wrote:
> And dont forget to edit transferred etc/fstab before you reboot, otherwise
> you will have two lilo entries which in fact will boot you to the same
> distribution. Also speaking of lilo, rerun it with new kernel. Now this is
> VERY important to edit lilo.conf and run lilo right after copying your
> files. Otherwise if your other distribution was listed in lilo.conf you
> won't be able to boot (lilo will try to look for an old kernel and give
> up), but you have a boot disk or at least disk with lilo pointing only to
> your chosed distributoin, don't you?
>
>
> George Shapovalov wrote:
>
>> Sure it is not as simple. And if you will think for just one more moment
>> you'll understand why.
>> What happens when your 'cp -r / /mnt/suse' gets to copying /mnt/suse? ;-)
>> (I did that once already, nothing too terrible though as you overfill
>> only backup partition, and I as well like to keep some minimal install on
>> some far partition :-)).
Hey, thanks a bunch George - saved me from my ignorance.
Joel
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From: Xiaoqin Qiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI: aborting command due to timeout
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:01:14 -0700
Hi,
Recently we have a PC installed RedHat 6.2 with 2.2.14-5.0smp kernel
experiencing problems with SCSI. We have two SCSI hard disk in this
machine. The problem is sometimes the kernel falls into continuos loop
of messages like
May 22 07:34:49 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14258, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 31 d8 e0 00 00
10 00
May 22 07:34:49 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14259, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 31 d8 f8 00 00
70 00
May 22 07:34:49 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14260, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 24 41 00 00 00
08 00
May 22 07:34:51 asap kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 14259) timed out -
resetting
May 22 07:34:51 asap kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel
0.
May 22 07:34:54 asap kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 20.0
Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
May 22 07:35:25 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14430, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 32 25 58 00 00
80 00
May 22 07:35:25 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14431, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 32 25 d8 00 00
80 00
May 22 07:35:25 asap kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 14432, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Read (10) 00 00 28 29 e0 00 00
08 00
May 22 07:35:27 asap kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 14431) timed out -
resetting
May 22 07:35:27 asap kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel
0.
May 22 07:35:30 asap kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 20.0
Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
and the machine hangs (it seems it can't do any IO operations anymore).
Is there anyone know the reason for this problem and how to fix it?
Thank you very much!
Xiaoqin
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From: "tin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: INN news server question
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 03:03:47 +0800
i didnt find in there
i have a question about ckpasswd,
i think i cannot call up ckpasswd to check my
shadow file
do you have any idear?
ckpasswd -s Check passwords against the result of getspnam(3) instead of
getpwnam(3). This function, on those
systems that supports it, reads from /etc/shadow or similar more
restricted files. If you want to
check passwords supplied to nnrpd(8) against system account
passwords, you will probably have to use
this option on most systems.
Most systems require special privileges to call getspnam(3), so
in order to use this option you may
need to make ckpasswd setgid to some group (like group "shadow")
or even setuid root. ckpasswd has
not been specifically audited for such uses! It is, however, a
very small program that you should be
able to check by hand for security.
i dont understand this mean
"Dean Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi!,
>
> > how to setup INN News server using username password Auth? and how to
kill
> > the post ?
>
> You might like to read the URL:
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/software/inn-faq/part1/
>
> It provides the answers to many of your questions, especially what is
needed
> to set up the username authentication to your newserver. You may also
like to
> read the appropriate RFC's for the USENET system as well.
>
> See ya
>
> Dean Thompson
>
> --
>
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From: Hermann Samso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.arch,comp.os.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: BIOS Operating System (BIOSOS) (long).
Date: 22 May 2001 19:18:51 GMT
Summary:
With the advent of cheap ROMs and flash memory, it
would be delightful to have a small Boot Up Operating System.
The Story:
Having just bought two second hand PCs, I had to realize
that they didn't have any Operating System installed, and
oh poor me! forgot to buy the last update/release of my
favourite OS (Linux/Windows/etc). What to do?
The Solution:
Not only for test reasons, but to really boot up a System
from scratch, it would be helpful to have a BIOS "glue"
or some other kind of ROM installed in everyday use PCs.
This would help mantain the System and also help in software
developement.
This idea is not new. We fount it in old 8 bit and 16 bit
Home Computers. The like of Basic ROMs in Sinclairs/Commodores/
Amstrad/Ataris or TOS/Workbench in Amigas and Atari STs.
This would suppose a level of abstraction between plain ol'
BIOS and your favourite OS. It would be a simple kind of DOS,
nowadays to find in the Public Domain (FreeDos,...) and
would help in recovery and simple machine testing operations.
Call it BIOSOS.
Such a low profile System can be packed easily in a 512KB ROM
or Flash alike piece. It wouldn't overprice a Motherboard much,
and certainly would be very helpful to gain a rapid insight of
the System at view, at last, without having to boot up from any
removable or soft image.
Forth, a JavaVM or a minimal Linux, are implementations that
instantly pop up to mind (SUN's, PowerPc's CHRP,...)
The system would consist of basic operations needed to rescue
a system or boot up a new one, the like of edit, fdisk, filesystem
operations (ls/dir, fdisk, cd, ...) an assembler or compiler, ...
In an extreme case where all your software has gone corrupted,
and you can't find any 3rd party to deliver you a new System,
an experienced man, call him a software developer or programmer :)
would have at least the possibility of bringing the machine again
to work. This is not possible nowadays in existing PCs, because,
although they have a low level system layer (Basic Input/Output
System), they lack another level over it that provides basic
maintenance applications.
It is not meant to replace any existing Operating Systems,
only to extend the all present PC BIOSes to be able to
boot up a barebones machine.
So this is my please to BIOS and motherboard facturers,
but also to any hobbiests that like the idea.
saludos,
hermann samso
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Throop)
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 Xconfigurator vs SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 49)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:19:15 GMT
: WT> I find that Xconfigurator correctly recognizes the video type,
: WT> and installs the correct module. And it will emit a working
: WT> XF86Config file... but only if <8-bit depth, or <=1024x768
: WT> resolution is specified.
: WT> [otherwise] it always causes the screen to lock up.
: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Mine run toward a monitor that self-protects itself when asked to do a
: higher hscan rate than it can do.
I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. The monitor supports
1600x1200 16-bit truecolor pixels when connected to other machines,
and the hscan rate autoconfigured for the SiS-630
is well within the monitor specs.
: Running a cheap SiS-6326 video card at 1152x864, 16 bits deep.
Ah... well, that reminds me that I haven't tried intermediate
resolutions between 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Once before, I had a
card that XF86 couldn't handle at 1280x1024, but *could* with 8-bit pixels,
or at something like 1160x900 (or some such... I'll have to look it up).
At least that gives me something else to try that might be vaguely acceptable.
But still... there really ought to be a better solution; the hardware is
easily capable of supporting 1600x1200 with 16 or even 24 bit pixels.
Well... "easily capable" according to the specs, and I have every reason
to suspect it really is, since it can support either 24-bit pixels
or high resolution, but not both. It has the memory, no problem there.
But something is going wrong with the X server's handling of the hardware.
Hmmm. Maybe I'll try turning off all accelerations next...
Wayne Throop [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sheol.org/throopw
"He's not just a Galaxy Ranger... he's a Super-Trooper!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kishore Gummadidala)
Subject: Win98 sees extra (ext2?) drive after RH 6.2 install..
Date: 22 May 2001 13:00:34 -0700
All,
I recently installed RH 6.2 on a Gateway Athlon 750 Mhz, 20Gb
system which came with Win98.. The Hard drive was un-partitioned.
I partitioned it as shown below (using ParitionMagic 5.0)...
===========================================================================================================
Partition Information for Disk 1: 19594.9 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #
StartSect TotalSects UsedSects FreeSects
===========================================================================================================
C:NO NAME FAT32 Pri,Boot 2925.9 0 0
63 5,992,182 4,109,146 1,883,036
Linux Ext2 Pri 15.7 0 2
5,992,245 32,130 5,916 26,214
Extended Pri 8652.2 0 3
6,024,375 17,719,695 5,815,530 11,904,165
EPBR Log 2706.3 None --
6,024,375 5,542,425 5,542,425 0
Linux Ext2 Log 2706.2 6024375 0
6,024,438 5,542,362 1,763,658 3,778,704
EPBR Log 133.4 6024375 1
11,566,800 273,105 273,105 0
*:SWAPSPACE2 Linux Swap Log 133.3 11566800 0
11,566,863 273,042 8 273,034
Free Space Log 5812.6 None --
11,839,905 11,904,165 0 11,904,165
E: FAT32X Pri 8001.1 0 1
23,744,070 16,386,300 2,739,330 13,646,970
===========================================================================================================
The above partition scheme was arrived at after
a number of tries.. I basically shrank my C:, and
created a 16M partition for /boot so that it would
fall within the 1024 cylinder limit. I then created
a logical partition for the /root and /swap. E:
was created for storing Win98 files.
Things seemed to have worked but for the fact that
Win98 lists the ext2 partition when I open Explore or
My Computer as D:/. It cannot see any files in that
drive, and any app which tries to browse the file system
becomes very slooow..
eg. I want to download the web page I am viewing, and
click 'save as' and try to go one directory up.. it
takes a minute before the system responds..
Also when I try to get the properties of D:\ I get
a "a device attached to the system is not functioning"
message.
I do not use a boot manager.. I use a boot disk to start
up linux, and just pop out the floppy to revert to Win98.
I am thinking I need to make the Linux partition hidden..
but I would sure like to hear from someone who has gone
through this before..
Eagerly looking forward to any replies.
Thanks,
Kishore.
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