Linux-Setup Digest #297, Volume #21 Thu, 24 May 01 15:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sort of urgent: Recreating boot disk ("Michael Pye")
Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: reference please (Michael Heiming)
Re: Win98 sees extra (ext2?) drive after RH 6.2 install.. (Kishore Gummadidala)
Re: Any X-Clients available , which can run from windows can contact the linux
boxes? ("David Dorward")
Re: USB CD/R-W support in Red Hat 6.2? 7.1? ("KW")
Re: Any X-Clients available , which can run from windows can contact the linux
boxes? (H.Bruijn)
Joystick under XFree86 4.0 (George B Smith)
Re: @Home setup SO SLOW (Neil Cherry)
3CXFE575BT PCMCIA on LINUX 7.1 on Thinkpad 760XL (9547-U9C) (Mike)
Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS (bill davidsen)
Re: help: Undefined reference to '...' (Nate Eldredge)
Re: @Home setup SO SLOW (LRW)
Re: help: Undefined reference to '...' (Adam Fineman)
Connection through (Freesco-)router (Huub)
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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Sort of urgent: Recreating boot disk
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:17:41 +0100
"michael james obrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> Get the redhat install disk. Put it in the machine you need a boot disk
> for. at the LILO prompt type
> linux root=/dev/hda2 ro
The install disk goes straight into the install process no matter what I
type (it is a floppy, the CD can't boot on my system, it was downloaded and
burned as packages...)
I tried it with the other lilo disk and it got a kernel panic when it tried
to mount it, failed because of incorrect or unsupported options...
I'm guessing the 2.0.x kernel used to create the old lilo disk was missing
some improvements to the filing system...
Any other ideas?
Thanks for your help
MP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning)
Date: 24 May 2001 17:29:12 +0100
"Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za> writes:
>Is it possible to re-partition once already installed? Or would I have to
>make a full backup, then restore to the split partitions? (This is possible,
>will waste about 2 CD's, thinking I'd rather go the hard way...)
Myself, I would use a resizing tool such as parted. Some people
like Partition Magic, but I would rather not use that as a boot
manager, though it seems to be OK as a resizer.
You can also backup your partitions one by one to somewhere else on
the disk, then resize them, then restore. Of course, you need to
plan this carefully in advance.
-- Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:45:55 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reference please
Jared Manning wrote:
>
> can someone point me to an web page or some online reference i can use
> for setting up an ftp and/or a telnet daemon for mandrake 7.2?
>
> thanks for any help!
There is a doc called:
Linux System Administrator's Survival Guide
I'm sure google will find it for you.
Please don't use telnet, you can do everything and more with ssh,
you can use scp (secure copy) which comes with ssh, instead of ftp
and it is much more secure.
The ssh package should have come with your distro, perhaps it's
installed and the sshd is running (ssh -v -v hostname) to check,
you can connect to localhost if your network setup is OK.
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kishore Gummadidala)
Subject: Re: Win98 sees extra (ext2?) drive after RH 6.2 install..
Date: 24 May 2001 09:54:58 -0700
I changed the id of my extended partition from 0x05
to 0x85.. and now Win98 does not see it.. does not
assign drive letters to it, and all Win apps run
normally.. Thanks for all the help.. I was just
curious about some of the other posts I had seen
where some folks said that extended partition with
id 0x05 have been working fine for them and others
(my self included) who said changing to 0x85 fixed
everything.. I am sure there is some setup specific
thing going on here. Anybody care to shed some
light on this..
Best Regards,
Kishore.
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<9eg8um$roi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I recently installed RH 6.2 on a Gateway Athlon 750 Mhz, 20Gb
> > system which came with Win98.. The Hard drive was un-partitioned.
> > I partitioned it as shown below (using ParitionMagic 5.0)...
> >
>
> Almost unreadable, this output from PM.
> But it looks as if the 2nd partition has the wrong ID.
> Change it's partition ID from it's current value - which is
> either 0x05(most likely) or 0x0F - to 0x85 (linux extended)
> You can use linux fdisk for this. And it's entirely harmless.
>
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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any X-Clients available , which can run from windows can contact the
linux boxes?
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:03:11 +0100
It seems that on Thu, 24 May 2001 13:41:35 +0100, someone claiming to be
"v.nagasrinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:
> Hi,
> I am running SuSE6.3 linux, its there in the LAN with KDE.
> But from windows , doing through telnet VT100 terminal emulation is bit
> painful ( not handy).
Try getting cygwin from redhat.com, the windows ssh client is rather
nicer then telnet.
> Like recently i saw windows Terminal Emulators for 2000,
> like that any good X-clients available , which can run from windows
That would be an X Server. The server displays teh graphics, the clients
are the programs that display on them. There are x servers for windows,
but they are rather expensive. I have seen this
http://freshmeat.net/projects/weirdx/ but have never had much luck
getting it to run myself.
> boxes, and should emulate the screen like KDE or good graphical usage
> with mouse...
That sounds more like you want VNC. Servers and clients are available for
both Linux and Windows. Its a little tricky to explain, but you can see
the website for screenshots:
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
> Can any one help me out with resources..
>
> thanks in advance...
> regards,
> srinivas
--
David Dorward http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB CD/R-W support in Red Hat 6.2? 7.1?
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:14:09 -0500
I've been working with my boxes trying to get my iomega usb cd to work.
You'll need the 2.4 kernel to get the USB support. Generic scsi support
will also need to be enabled. Long story short... I can get to where I
can mount the CD-RW and read CD's, I just can't burn them.
Last time I tried was several months ago (2.4.0 kernel) and the utilities
that had support for that drive were limited to cdrecord > 2.9, then I
learned that the 2.10 lost support for that drive... It may be fixed by
now... and those cdrocrd versions are just for example, I don't remeber
the exact version #'s.
You can look on the iomega linux site and probably find an article I
posted sometime ago about getting the drive to work... You can also
check out www.linux-usb.org for more support...
--
KW
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ralph Mack"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> It would probably be a good idea to back up my server from time to time.
> I have an outboard IOMEGA USB CD-R/W drive that's been kicking around
> here for a while. Does Red Hat Linux 6.2 support USB storage devices?
> What about 7.1? Do I have to do something special to enable them?
> (Somebody please point me to the right page?)
>
> Does it support adding and removing them on a running system (with the
> media cleanly dismounted, of course)? I'd like to use this CD-R/W to
> back up a couple of other systems as well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ralph
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Any X-Clients available , which can run from windows can contact the
linux boxes?
Date: 24 May 2001 17:24:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 May 2001 12:41:35 +0000 (UTC), v.nagasrinivas allegedly wrote:
> Hi,
> I am running SuSE6.3 linux, its there in the LAN with KDE.
> But from windows , doing through telnet VT100 terminal emulation
> is bit painful ( not handy).
> Like recently i saw windows Terminal Emulators for 2000,
> like that any good X-clients available , which can run
> from windows boxes, and should emulate the screen like KDE or
> good graphical usage with mouse...
>
> Can any one help me out with resources..
They are called Xservers, not clients. There are some free (as in
gratis0 ones which can be found on your local tucows mirror.
http://www.tucows.com
select MS windows version --> Server Tools --> X-Windows Servers
The either run xdm on the linux machine, and tell the windows Xserver to
do an XDMCP query to the linux machine. That should result in a graphical
login prompt, after which you get the default windowmanager with KDE in
your windows machine. Otherwise, if the Xserver you found doesn't
support XDMCP queries, start the xserver on the windows machine, then
log in to the linux machine via telnet or ssh (if the windows ssh client
supports X11 forwarding), and do one of (depends on the shell):
export DISPLAY=hostname.of.windows.machine:0
export DISPLAY=ipnumber.of.windows.machine:0
export DISPLAY=hostname.of.windows.machine:0.0
setenv DISPLAY ipnumber.of.windows.machine:0
and then you can start X-applications manually, with "xterm &" or start
an displaymanager manually "startkde &"
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://HermanBruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George B Smith)
Subject: Joystick under XFree86 4.0
Date: 24 May 2001 10:28:51 -0700
How do I add my Joystick (std on the gameport) to XFree as an
InputDevice?
I already have the kernel modules compiled and working - jstest works.
But I can't find anything on the 'Net for the X side. I see lots of
XFree86 3.x bits - but things have changed with 4.0 haven't they?
Any ideas?
George B. Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: @Home setup SO SLOW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:35:57 GMT
On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:26:38 -0500, LRW wrote:
>I'd ask the @Home newsgroups, unfortunately you have to be connected to
>@Home to access their newsgroups, and the following problem is
>preventing me from doing so. =P
>
>I can get connected to the @Home service, and can even ping out and
>resolve addresses, etc, but my x-fer rate is no more than about 2kbps!
>And stalls out constantly.
>
>There's a GREAT reference page at
>http://members.home.net/randal.leavitt/CableModemConnectionNotes.html
>which I followed, but it doesn't help.
>No change in performance from when all I had was a host name a default
>gateway to when I put in all the rest of the info.
>
>Can anyone who has a good connection using cable modem give me some
>pointers?
>Like for Host, go ahead and use the full c123456-a.xxxx.mo.home.com or
>just use c123456-a, use DHCP or BOOTP, etc.
>There are some odd discrepancies too. My IPCOFIG /ALL under WIndows
>(before Windows crashed) gave me my default gateway etc...and it ends in
>a .1. But the network settings has my domain set as ending in .0 and no
>way to change it.
I'm using RH 6.x (upgraded over 10 years from Slackware 1.x, don't
ask).
Here's my /etc/resolv.conf
search x.xx.home.com
nameserver 01.2.3.4
nameserver 01.2.3.3
and here is my nsswitch.conf
passwd: files
shadow: files
group: files
#hosts: db files nisplus nis dns
hosts: files
services: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
networks: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
protocols: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
rpc: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
ethers: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
netmasks: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
bootparams: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
netgroup: files
publickey: files
I also have a firewall in place (which is why I dont' clean my junk up
a little better) and TCPD and IP Chains.
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: 3CXFE575BT PCMCIA on LINUX 7.1 on Thinkpad 760XL (9547-U9C)
Date: 24 May 2001 11:16:04 -0700
I am at my wits end - well, almost...
My end goal is to use a Thinkpad 760XL (9547-U9C) as a LINUX firewall
- for fun. I have successfully loaded the OS but have become
confused. I am not sure if my NIC is not configured correctly, or the
PCMCIA, or what. I am in need of a helping hand, and would appreciate
any dedicated assistance for a while from anyone here. I have done a
great deal of reading but I feel that I have read so much, that I have
confused myself.
I have scoured these posts but have found little help. I am ready
willing and able to send anyone the information needed to help me in
my quest.
What I am trying to do, I am sure has been done. If you are out there
and can reply, please email me.
Thank you all for your support.
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:16:02 +0000 (UTC)
In article <tQGM6.870$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'll add another question to the thread. 2 of the developers I work with say
| that reiserFS should be used for development because it is more robust then
| ext2 and in the embedded system we are developed, the power frequently is
| removed from the target system running Linux.
Your developers may not understand the issues... reiserfs recovers
faster, but not significantly better. You are more likely to have a sane
directory structure after crash, but the correctness (or even existance)
of the data is about the same as ext2. Also, there can be corruption
even so, and that's why there is an fsck (by whatever name) for
reiserfs. If you don't run it you could have undetected problems. See
the reiser docs, I don't remember the details, one of the developers
explained.
Note that unrecoverable corruption is unlikely with either fs, but not
impossible. And a look at the changelogs for 2.4 development shows that
there are still fairly frequent cases where reiser needs fixes for cases
which are infrequent enough to have missed developer testing, but happen
often enough to require fixes now. I would regard reiser as less stable
than ext2, even though the design has features which some people find
very useful.
| As a consequence of the fact
| that power can be removed at any time, there is no graceful shutdown of this
| system.
Other people have addressed this in other ways than "let it crash and
recover..." That mode doesn't sound particularly robust.
| I am told by one of the developers that reiserFS will be the new
| default file system in the next release of Linux.
That's by no means clear unless the decision is being made on
political rather than technical factors. IBM and SGI have spent time and
money porting the JFS and XFS journaling filesystems to Linux. In
particular JFS has been around in production for a decade, and is likely
to have a lot fewer obscure bugs than any new fs. Since JFS (on AIX)
includes all sorts of RAID-0 and 1 capability and features of the VFS, I
don't know if they are in the Linux version or if the current Linux RAID
and VFS stuff is used.
| I wonder what some of the
| developers here have to say about reiserFS and its reliability in a
| situation where power can and will be removed frequently from an embedded
| system.
Reiser was never designed for such use, nor was any other Linux fs
I've seen. Note that in a system crash with power on the physical writes
complete, vs. a power fail in which the actual write may be defective.
Journaling filesystems in general are aimed at the former case, since in
a normal computer application the power supply almost always has power
to keep the physical write going, and give the CPU a ms or two to use
powerfail to abort queued i/o. To actually drop all power generates
problems which most vendors do not try to solve with off the shelf
solutions.
Doesn't mean it can't work, but the operation is outside the usual
design parameters. perhaps the reiser developers will have some
additional comments, I don't in any way speak for them.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.
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From: Nate Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: help: Undefined reference to '...'
Date: 24 May 2001 11:20:36 -0700
"Paul Dragicevich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> it might help if you posted your source, if it's not too big.
Not to mention the complete error messages.
--
Nate Eldredge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: LRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: @Home setup SO SLOW
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:32:24 -0500
Obviously the IP and the x's in domain are changed and I'll use mine,
but where you have "files" it actually says "files"?
I'm not in front of the machine in question to look at it, but shouldn't
there be more under hosts at least? Or whatabout where you put in your
host name (c12345-a) or IP? Don't you need the host name somewhere
whether you're static or DHCP?
Oh I'm still going to give this a try when I get home! I'll try anything
that doesn't involve small woodland creatures.
I'm just thinking that there's so much more that might be needed...but
then, that might be part of my problem.
(But I still can't imagine that you don't have to tell it the gateway at
least.)
Thanks for your help!! =)
Liam
Neil Cherry wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:26:38 -0500, LRW wrote:
> >I'd ask the @Home newsgroups, unfortunately you have to be connected to
> >@Home to access their newsgroups, and the following problem is
> >preventing me from doing so. =P
> >
> >I can get connected to the @Home service, and can even ping out and
> >resolve addresses, etc, but my x-fer rate is no more than about 2kbps!
> >And stalls out constantly.
> >
> >There's a GREAT reference page at
> >http://members.home.net/randal.leavitt/CableModemConnectionNotes.html
> >which I followed, but it doesn't help.
> >No change in performance from when all I had was a host name a default
> >gateway to when I put in all the rest of the info.
> >
> >Can anyone who has a good connection using cable modem give me some
> >pointers?
> >Like for Host, go ahead and use the full c123456-a.xxxx.mo.home.com or
> >just use c123456-a, use DHCP or BOOTP, etc.
> >There are some odd discrepancies too. My IPCOFIG /ALL under WIndows
> >(before Windows crashed) gave me my default gateway etc...and it ends in
> >a .1. But the network settings has my domain set as ending in .0 and no
> >way to change it.
>
> I'm using RH 6.x (upgraded over 10 years from Slackware 1.x, don't
> ask).
>
> Here's my /etc/resolv.conf
>
> search x.xx.home.com
> nameserver 01.2.3.4
> nameserver 01.2.3.3
>
> and here is my nsswitch.conf
>
> passwd: files
> shadow: files
> group: files
>
> #hosts: db files nisplus nis dns
> hosts: files
>
> services: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> networks: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> protocols: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> rpc: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> ethers: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> netmasks: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
> bootparams: files [NOTFOUND=return] files
>
> netgroup: files
>
> publickey: files
>
> I also have a firewall in place (which is why I dont' clean my junk up
> a little better) and TCPD and IP Chains.
>
> --
> Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
> http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
> http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: Adam Fineman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: help: Undefined reference to '...'
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:57:11 -0400
"David. E. Goble" wrote:
>
> Hi All;
>
> I have redHat 6.2 (server install)
>
> I am trying to do some programming.
>
> Tried these two;
>
> gcc testlibpq.c -I/usr/include/pgsql/ -L/usr/lib/
>
> and
>
> gcc cube.cpp -I/usr/X11R6/include/ -L/usr/X11R6/lib/
>
> both produce a list of;
>
> .... Undefined reference to '...'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> I understand this has something to do with linking...
>
That seems likely.
> What am I doing wrong or not doing. Please I need step by step
> instruction, thanks.
You haven't given us enough information to help you. Post the
*smallest* possible compilable program that displays the error, along
with the command you issued to compile it and the output from the
compilere.
--
Adam
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From: Huub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Connection through (Freesco-)router
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:08:48 +0200
Hi,
I want to connect a RH6.2 pc to the internet through a Freesco-router.
The router is working fine I think, because from the router I can ping
both my network and the ISP. From the network I can ping the router. But
I can't manage to connect from the network through the router to the
internet. I tried to fill in all information I got: (default) gateway,
DNS, netmasks, anything I could think of. Nothing works. (Now I've
temporarily placed the NIC in another pc directly connected to the
modem.)
Can somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong and how I should set up
the connection?
Thank you very much
Huub
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