Linux-Setup Digest #342, Volume #21 Thu, 31 May 01 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
monitor changes at night... (alz)
Re: Linux, CPU HLT instruction et software cooling ! (Tom Brinkman)
Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file? (James Knott)
[Q] Redhat 7.1 and Sygate ("Syng Shin")
Boot Problems - Caldera New Install ("RC")
Re: Lynx through proxy (Jesper Petersen)
Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?] ("Alan Murrell")
Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C ("Lanzon")
Re: Linux, CPU HLT instruction et software cooling ! (Serban-Mihai Popescu)
Re: Desktop Environments (miguel angel rojas aquino)
Re: rh7.1: urgent install help please (Lee Merrill)
help about linux on ps/2 note n51x
Re: Can't halt or reboot system (Lee Merrill)
Re: rh7.1 ("David Dorward")
invalid ELF headers ? ("Ade")
Grub Installation Problem (Paul Jolly)
Install of SuSE 7.1 hangs in reboot (oz1dcv)
RedHat Linux 7.1 on Compaq Deskpro4000. Video problems. (Brian Kirby)
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From: alz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: monitor changes at night...
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:47:42 -0400
monitor changes at night...
From:
alz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Groups:alt.os.linux.setup
no references
Hello all,
does anyone have an idea on how to keep the correct X settings...Every 2 or
3 starts, the system won't boot X and go back to the prompt where I have to
reajust the monitor settings trough Xconfigurator...
I tried just about everything I found possible and I'm thinking of passing
some parameters at boot time trying to prevent modprob (from what I
understand) from constantly resetting the monitor...but I've no idea which
ones.
This problem arises with an integrated Ati videocard with Mandrake 7.2 or 8
Any idea would be welcomed, thaks in advance.
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From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, CPU HLT instruction et software cooling !
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:49:10 GMT
Georges Goncalves wrote:
> Hardware : AMD Duron 700 @ 950 on Abit KT7, OS Win2K SP2
> AMD Duron 700 @ 900 on Abit KT7, OS GNU/Linux (Debian SID)
>
> When the machines are doing NOTHING (Idle) the working temperature is
> an average of 55�.
You need to improve case temp and/or cpu heatsink/fan. Under full
load (eg, 'cpuburn') your cpu temp shouldn't go over 55C (50 is
better). Also the temp is from an external probe. AMD says to add 10
to 20C to the probe temp to approximate the actual core temp. So your
55C could really be as high as 75C core temp even if the hs/f is
properly installed on the die. AMD4's are finally getting an internal
diode to monitor core temp. A probe (thermistor), no matter how well
placed, is just a guess.
> Anyone knows a similar tool on Linux ?
run 'dmesg' in a term, you should see a line,
"Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK."
somewhere in the output. HLT's are a standard kernel function.
Tom
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From: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:51:47 GMT
Jody wrote:
>
> "James Knott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> > >
> > > Scsi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > : Yeah ... why should I be penalized through levied taxes and
> taxation because
> > > : someone else downloads copyrighted materials? Too much
> government = slavery.
> > > : Down here in the US the government = big business and we have
> all become
> > > : robots and slaves to a group of captialist and greedy folks. Uh
> ... not all
> > > : of us but 90% perhaps. So blind.
> > >
> > > : Scsi2
> > >
> > > : "James Knott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> in message
> > > : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > : > Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > > : > >
> > > : > > Voila! Mkisofs is installed into /usr/local/bin.
> > > : > > Make sure that you do not burn copyrighted music to your CDs
> as it is
> > > : > > bad for your soul and for the recording industry profits.
> > > : >
> > > : > FWIW, Canadians can now legally copy copyrighted music, for
> their own
> > > : > use. The copyright owners get reimbersed through a levy the
> government
> > > : > slapped on blank CDs, audio cassettes etc.
> > >
> > > Do the taxes apply to hard drives? You can always go over border
> and buy
> > > blank cds.
> >
> > No, just stuff blank CDs and tapes.
>
> How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
> Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
> Where does the levy taxes exactly go?
>
It certainly gets charged. Beyond that, I couldn't say where the money
goes.
--
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From: "Syng Shin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: [Q] Redhat 7.1 and Sygate
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:11:11 -0400
Hello
I have a server with Win 98 and Sygate, and a linux box (RH 7.1) is
connected to it.
For the linux box, I am using DHCP, and set DNS, Gateway to 192.168.0.1 (IP
for the NIC connected to the network, not to the cable modem, on the
server).
Domain is home.com since I am using @Home cable modem.
I left 127.0.0.1 in the host file, but changed the locahost.localdomain to
syng.home.com. The Nick name is still localhost.
The problem is, if the linux box is connected to the network, it's extremely
slow .. sometimes programs don't even start.
It's fast when it's not connected. Also, it doesn't get any internet
connection from Sygate.
I couldn't find any problems with Sygate because other windows systems on
the network works fine.
TCP/IP and NetBeui is installed on the Sygate server.
Does anyone have same problem?
Thanks.
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From: "RC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot Problems - Caldera New Install
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:27:36 -0500
An older Pentium Pro System was converted to Caldera Linux on a new, never
used 15 GB hard drive. The initial install worked fine. System was able to
boot up, etc. System stayed up 90+ days, then an old tape drive (floppy
disk controller) was removed from the system. System was shutdown, drive
removed, and then restarted. The system would not restart at that point.
It basically gets to the point of checking the hardware then goes no
further.
It acts like it is not finding the master boot record.
Anyone out there have any suggestions? Other than starting all over on the
installation.
Drive partitioned into 3 parts (main - 7 GB, swap - 1/2 GB, and second - 6
GB)
Version 2.3 Caldera Open Linux
Both Lisa and Lizard Installs have been tried
Pentium Pro 200 MHz - 128 MB RAM
Many thanks in advance!
Randy
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From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Subject: Re: Lynx through proxy
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:59 +0200
>After you've figured out what the real proxy is, is this all you need to do:
>
>Add
>
>export http_proxy=http://your.proxy.com:8080/
>export ftp_proxy=http://your.proxy.com:8080/
>
>To your ~/.bashrc. Notice the ending /, took me a week to figure out that that
>is what's wrong.
>
>And suddenly most every web app will know what's your proxy.
Yes I found out, so now it works with a solution like yours.
Thanks
Jesper
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From: "Alan Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?]
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:40:55 -0700
> How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
> Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
It gets applied directly at the time of purchase.
> Where does the levy taxes exactly go?
Who knows? :-)
--
Alan Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.zoolink.com/alan/
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From: "Lanzon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:48:26 +0800
Matthew van de Werken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lanzon"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, but you don't get better then VIM!
> >
> > The true programmer's tool :)
> >
>
> I guess the only downside is the OP doesn't want to learn "a bunch of
> keyboard commands".
Pfft, and miss out on the best charater editing tool around? I figure start
of learning about ":" and "/" and you can trial and error the rest! I think
i am always finding new niffty commands every day :)
But I love being able to compile code, finding errors (not that I have
ahabit of finding errors) and being able to jump straight away to that line
number with the press of a few keys! It's great! Of cause it probably isn't
the best tool for writting English Essays :)
> This pretty much rules out vi[m]. Don't get me wrong,
> I love vi (you should see some of my Windows text files -> they're full
> of colons and assorted seemingly random characters), but it's not exactly
> a beginner's text editor.
Yeah it's funny! I have real problems in Word sometimes! When ever I want to
delete a charater I try and use "x".
- Lanzon
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From: Serban-Mihai Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux, CPU HLT instruction et software cooling !
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:06:59 GMT
Are you sure you're comparing apples to apples? Maybe lm_sensors is not
properly tuned and could show wrong numbers.
A better way would be to let the system settle down and, in both Windoze
and Linux, to quickly reboot and go see what the bios says about the
temperature. 15*C difference would not go away that fast.
No matter what, I think that the fact you don't see any time-related
decrease in temperature after you boot Linux doesn't tell anything about
its ability to run cool.
Serban
Georges Goncalves wrote:
>
> Hi people,
>
> I have a technical question on these topics...
>
> Hardware : AMD Duron 700 @ 950 on Abit KT7, OS Win2K SP2
> AMD Duron 700 @ 900 on Abit KT7, OS GNU/Linux (Debian SID)
>
> When the machines are doing NOTHING (Idle) the working temperature is an
> average of 55�. On Win2K, I use the HMonitor tool to get temperatures.
> It features a "CPU Low Power Mode" option to check (doc says it uses
> the HLT command of the CPU to reduce power consumption hence the
> temperature drop). It works because a couple of minutes later, the
> temperature drops to 39-40�... (a reboot and the BIOS confirms
> this temperature). I use LMSensors on Linux to get the temperatures and
> it also works at an average temperature of 55� but the temperature
> never drops.
>
> What puzzles me is that all modern OSes (WinNT/2K, Linux and others) are
> ALREADY meant to use the CPU HLT command when they're Idle, but, the
> temperature remains constant (does not drop) HMonitor claims using the
> HLT command and the temperature really drops.
>
> Who's right, who's wrong ?
>
> Anyone knows a similar tool on Linux ?
>
> PS: I've recompiled the kernel with APM support "Make Idle CPU calls" or
> some
> to try the feature but the temperature variation was about a quarter of
> a degree.
>
> --
> Georges 'Melkor' Goncalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (miguel angel rojas aquino)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Desktop Environments
Date: 31 May 2001 10:08:53 -0700
"Tyron Washington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I have a couple of questions about desktop environments and stuff (I'm using
> RedHat 7.0):
>
> [1] What is the relationship between GNOME and the desktop environments
> featured on themes.org (afterstep, blackbox, enlightenment, fvwm, gtk+,
> icewm, kde, litestep, sawfish & wm)? Or is GNOME just another desktop
> environment?
well, the ones you mention here (excepting GNOME) are what we know as window
managers, and are the responsibles of the look and feel of your desktop (icons
title bars, etc.) regarding windows operations, and GNOME is a desktop environent.
it takes charge of operations sucha as drag and drop betwen optimized applications,
file associations, common object models, etc.
>
> [2] What is the difference between all the desktop environments described
> above? Is it simply that they draw and organize window and desktop elements
> differently?
yes, basically, and regarding the differences betwen window managers and desktop
environmets, GNOME can use different window managers (sawfish, wm, enlightenment)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Merrill)
Subject: Re: rh7.1: urgent install help please
Date: 31 May 2001 10:14:37 -0700
Your CMOS settings shouldn't change if you have the computer plugged
into a power outlet, as far as I know. So my guess is a hardware problem
of some sort, the HD boot problem is probably not due to CMOS options.
Lee
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: help about linux on ps/2 note n51x
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:17:37 +0200
I am trying installing slackware linux 3.0.0 in a ps/2 note (n51 sx model)
with bootdisk found at
http://wwwa2.kph.uni-mainz.de/ftp/pub/machines/linux/mca/Slackware/.
After reading the realted readme file i was able to detect my wd240 with
1123 cylinder 38 head and 2 sec (?). I think that it is a strange
configuration
but the bootdisk told it to me!
The problem is that after partitioning with fdisk i type setup and after
some step he tries to format the swap
and system partition but it starts spitting out nasty messages. The author
suggest playing around but i haven't
be able to install nothing!
can someone help me. The laptop is a 386 with 2 mega expanded to 6 with a
old memory and i can't install newer
distribution because or are too large (most want 8 MB) or don't recognise my
mca hd. If i can't install linux i will
never be able to use decent progs on 386 with 37 HD!
Thank you, Valerio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Merrill)
Subject: Re: Can't halt or reboot system
Date: 31 May 2001 10:18:39 -0700
A kernel crash would be my first guess, you might try this yourself as root,
"ps -ef > pslist", kill all processes first with SIGTERM, then with SIGKILL,
and see which process it stops on. That would be a first step, and you might
get an oops to give further info.
Lee
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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh7.1
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:12:41 +0100
It seems that on Thu, 31 May 2001 12:40:40 +0100, someone claiming to be
"Riyaz Mansoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:
> hi all
>
> what's the recommended/minimum swap/root filesystem size for the redhat
> 7.1?
swap - double your RAM
root - depends on how much you want to install and if you have a /usr
partition as well.
--
David Dorward http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
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From: "Ade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: invalid ELF headers ?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:56:07 +0100
after installing php4 on my machine i do httpd -t and it tells me that there
is a syntax error in httpd.conf :
cannot load /etc/httpd/lib/libphp4.so into server:
/etc/httpd/lib/libphp4.so: invalid ELF header
what is an invalid ELF header and how can i fix it ?
regards,
Adrian.
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From: Paul Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Grub Installation Problem
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:56:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All,
This has been vexing me for some time now.
Grub Installation.
I cannot seem to get GRUB installed correctly. I have an ASUS A7V board,
with onboard ATA100 controllers. Hence, my first HDD is /dev/hde, my second
one is /dev/hdg. On /dev/hde is Windows 98 (this has no problem loading
from GRUB). Linux is on /dev/hdg.
The directory structure on my linux drive is as follows: swap, /boot, /,
/home, where /boot and / are ReiseFS. The problem occurs when I try and
boot Linux. If gets as far as VFS mounting the root partition, but then the
kernel panics with the message: Kernel Panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs.
I am currently having to boot Linux from floppy disk (not at all good!).
Any help much appreciated.
Paul Jolly
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From: oz1dcv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install of SuSE 7.1 hangs in reboot
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:07:04 +0200
Pretty new to linux, installed SuSE 7.1 successfully on laptop, but
problem with an old desktop. Hardware:
Pentium 100 MHz, 32MB RAM 1 GB IDE hard disk, 3Com ether net 3c905
PCI.
Installation on a clean hard disk, default values all around except
for danish keyboard, minimum system.
Installation is non graphical due to amount of RAM.
SuSE decides partitioning.
Using original CD and boot disk from SuSE.
When the installation reboots everything seems normal until message
"Starting syslog services"
after 4-5 seconds with some disk activity the screen clears and there
remains just a blinking cursor at the top left corner. Disk activity
continues for a further 5-6 seconds, but after that nothing happens,
at least not for an hour. (then I pushed the reset button).
I have tried with both the old kernel and with 2.4 - same results.
Fresh partitioning on both installs.
Booting a rescue system (floppy+CD) succeeds, but I have not found
anything on the harddisk that tells me what could be wrong ( I
probably don't know what to look after).
/etc/fstab contains:
/dev/root / etx2 defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
seems a bit odd to me, but maybe just because the installation hasn't
completed?
Any ideas - how to proceed ?
--
Yours
Hans Erik Busk
Registered Linux user #104633
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Kirby)
Subject: RedHat Linux 7.1 on Compaq Deskpro4000. Video problems.
Date: 31 May 2001 11:09:58 -0700
I have installed RH Linux 7.1 on my Compaq machine and am having video problems
when running X on this machine.
I am currently trying to get the video settings correct on my Compaq
machine with an S3 Virge/GX chipset. I have seen numerous posts of others
who have had the same problem with their Linux installs, however, I have
found no solutions to the problem. I am seeing a small rectangle next to
my mouse cursor and many other visual artifacts on the screen. When I move
a window the contents become totally unreadable. Surely someone somewhere
can shed some light on this problem.
Thanks for any help on this...
Brian
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