Linux-Setup Digest #370, Volume #21               Mon, 4 Jun 01 12:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  rh7.1: switching the install drive ("Riyaz Mansoor")
  X Windows Clients ("Dave Armbruster")
  Linux Server overload problem during peak hours (more info) (Ken Fung)
  Redhat Version Question (Rand Simberg)
  Re: Linux Server overload problem during peak hours (more info) (Michael Heiming)
  Re: kernel version number (Joal Heagney)
  send/receive fax on suse linux 7.1 (Thomas Runte)
  Re: Redhat Version Question (Joal Heagney)
  Re: power up in wee hours, cron jobs run twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Enlightenment and Logitech MouseMan ("Georges Heinesch")
  Re: Redhat Version Question ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Netscape - How Can I Install/Run? (Felix Miata)
  Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000. ("daltrix")
  problem with cursor (naren)

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From: "Riyaz Mansoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh7.1: switching the install drive
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:18:47 +1000


is there any way to tell the the installer to let my 'hdb' act as my cdrom
drive which actuall is 'hdd'. maybe passing some parameter during the
install boot thingy ....

riaz



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From: "Dave Armbruster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Windows Clients
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:28:27 -0400

Good Day,
    I have installed Redhat 7 on a new server. Everything works great
except I cannot access the system via an X Client. I can telnet, ftp,
and rlogin no problem. I have network access enabled and even have
run the xhost command to authorize the access. Redhat still refuses the
network connection. Anyone else run into this? Thanks in Advance.
                                                       Dave Armbruster




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Fung)
Subject: Linux Server overload problem during peak hours (more info)
Date: 4 Jun 2001 07:49:41 -0700

These are the additional information for my situation.
The "top" screen and the "vmstat 2" screen.

"top":

 10:48pm  up  4:36,  2 users,  load average: 76.74, 48.74, 24.40
247 processes: 244 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  2.3% user, 14.3% system,  0.0% nice, 87.4% idle
Mem:  119636K av, 118388K used,   1248K free,  87232K shrd,    252K buff
Swap: 130748K av, 118736K used,  12012K free                  2200K cached

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
23378 kenf      18   0   220  204   160 R       0  6.1  0.1   1:43 vmstat
23307 kenf      19   0   520  468   292 R       0  3.5  0.3   2:03 top
23810 nobody     1   0  2356 2016   704 D       0  0.2  1.6   0:22 httpd
26651 nobody     0   0  2328 1980   712 D       0  0.2  1.6   0:01 httpd
26926 nobody     1   0  2416 2244   968 D       0  0.2  1.8   0:00 httpd
24022 nobody     1   0  2316 2028   768 D       0  0.1  1.6   0:25 httpd
25749 nobody     1   0  2412 1828   708 D       0  0.1  1.5   0:07 httpd
25995 nobody     1   0  2304 2016   692 D       0  0.1  1.6   0:04 httpd
24008 nobody     1   0  2380 2080   760 D       0  0.1  1.7   0:19 httpd
23902 nobody     0   0  2412 1972   704 D       0  0.1  1.6   0:16 httpd
26220 nobody     0   0  2100 1772   720 D       0  0.1  1.4   0:02 httpd
26208 nobody     0   0  1924 1548   584 D       0  0.1  1.2   0:03 httpd
26801 nobody     0   0  1856 1400   528 D       0  0.1  1.1   0:00 httpd
26225 nobody     0   0  2052 1748   728 D       0  0.1  1.4   0:03 httpd
26866 nobody     0   0  2072 1576   736 D       0  0.1  1.3   0:00 httpd
26787 nobody     0   0  2184 1888   756 D       0  0.1  1.5   0:00 httpd


"vmstat 2":

 procs                  memory    swap        io    system         cpu
 r b w  swpd  free  buff cache  si  so   bi   bo   in   cs  us  sy  id
 6 0 0     4  3008  5912 17076   0   0    9   34  563  342  56  44   0
 3 0 0     4  3396  5456 15404   0   0   21   23  435  368  61  39   0
 8 0 0     4  4932  5456 15456   0   0    9    0  473  493  55  45   0
 3 0 0     4  1304  5208 14796   0   0  173   31  387  379  56  44   0
 6 0 0     4  2072  5052 14168   0   0    8    0  315  419  56  44   0
 6 0 0     4  4188  5040 14212   0   0   14   25  560  600  50  50   0
 7 0 0     4  4816  5084 14416   0   0   77   33  864  696  58  42   0
11 0 0     4  6420  5084 14480   0   0   12   29  591  509  57  43   0
24 3 0     4  5516  5084 14508   0   0   10   38  320  343  49  51   0
16 0 0     4  5828  5148 14684   0   0   47   39 1079  665  58  42   0
13 0 0     4  8032  5148 14736   0   0    6   30  523  475  53  47   0
 9 1 0     4 10184  5148 14808   0   0   14   30  561  375  53  47   0
10 0 0     4  8552  5148 14876   0   0   19    0  454  338  59  41   0
11 0 0     4  8732  5148 14952   0   0   18   36  545  370  51  48   2
14 0 0     4  4920  5212 15056   0   0   41   31  633  304  61  39   0
13 0 0     4  3660  5212 15180   0   0   22   47  831  535  48  52   0
 4 0 0     4  5012  5212 15196   0   0    3   20  286  181  58  42   0
 6 5 0     4  1208  4996 14500   0   0    9   48  511  472  54  46   0
 2 0 0     4  2400  4660 12928   0   0   26    0  444  245  52  48   0
11 1 0     4  4588  4060  9332   0   0   84   62  991  605  59  41   0
22 0 0     4  3444  4052  9416   0   0   54   31  694  412  53  47   0
15 1 0     4  2952  3640  7712   0   0   59   35  630  381  54  46   0
 6 0 0     4  2232  3324  4596   0   0   91   30  577  356  53  47   0
 5 14 0     4  1220  1848  4216   0   0  665    0  617  652  39  61   0
 1 24 0   172  1320   468  4012   0  84  245   61  374  637  30  22  48
 0 33 1  1000  1200   384  3920   2 416  551  130  683 1389   7  19  74
 1 43 0  2080  1204   276  3396  10 544  447  136  624 1206   8  29  62
 0 49 0  3136  1260   276  3212   6 530  246  141  406  935  10  33  56
 0 48 9  8352  1200   200  2940   8 2614 1481  681 2212 3109   3  19  78
 0 51 11 33960  1200   152  2500 236 12848 2360 3229 3944 6599   1  17  82
 0 58 10 51480  1200   188  2248 358 8814 1331 2218 2180 4546   2  11  88
 0 70 2 56560  1200   188  2228 646 2624  679  660 1052 1796   4  11  86
 1 68 2 59872  1204   188  2448 688 1708  612  435  899 1309   4  12  84
 0 68 0 60924  1200   196  2484 472 588  319  149  480  853   6  35  59
 0 65 0 62728  1200   196  2576 524 936  479  239  690 1165   2  10  88
 2 59 0 63532  1200   236  2644 516 768  598  200  958 1450   3  24  73
 0 59 0 63812  1872   272  2648 224 266  222   72  329  600   2  18  80
 0 66 0 63900  1248   272  2676 258 136  240   35  344 1731   2  17  81
 4 62 5 65032  1200   272  2716 422 588  419  153  644 6153   1  21  78
 1 67 4 66148  1200   272  2736 350 624  403  156  661 6236   3  22  75
 1 72 0 67932  1200   272  2756 540 978  404  248  672 1763   2  15  82
 1 73 0 70112  1200   272  2788 766 1204  396  304  675 1456   3  14  83
 1 73 0 72476  1200   272  2872 970 1420  462  355  789 1414   4  19  77
 1 73 0 74140  1200   272  2880 654 1016  384  268  625 1317   3  22  74
 0 69 3 75524  1200   272  2908 468 952  367  238  608 1351   4  10  86
 1 68 5 77520  1204   272  2936 438 1078  443  278  739 2179   3  24  74
 1 75 0 78272  1200   272  2952 248 572  221  143  404 2196   6  31  63
 1 63 10 79460  1200   272  2988 254 734  380  190  670 6044   1  13  86
 0 67 9 81048  1200   264  2356 428 960  457  251  770 4582   4  14  82
 2 68 4 83000  1200   256  2336 582 1334  693  336 1116 7470   5  23  72
 1 64 10 84440  1200   256  2424 308 722  424  186  684 3504   3  14  83
 0 66 10 86204  1200   256  2464 470 1068  517  276  877 2415   2  13  85
 1 72 5 87364  1200   256  2460 350 792  305  198  548 1894   3  33  64
 0 65 9 89132  1204   256  2488 630 1070  531  275  873 4536   3  13  83
 0 67 9 91700  1200   256  2352 854 1568  926  405 1499 12568   3  14  83
 1 70 9 92996  1200   256  2304 440 818  421  206  731 6099   2  22  76
 2 73 2 94444  1200   256  2320 416 908  432  239  735 6617   2  17  81
 0 69 10 96516  1200   248  2288 550 1256  471  318  808 3280   4  16  80
 1 69 9 98436  1200   248  2344 562 1298  460  330  776 2426   5  18  77
 0 72 6 101120  1204   232  2256 808 1696  704  432 1245 4918   5  14  81
 1 73 5 102472  1204   220  2220 470 900  315  225  530 1692   7  29  64
 2 68 9 104688  1216   268  2232 746 1358  619  348 1047 7488   3  21  76
 2 69 9 107768  1200   264  2216 1290 2226 1591  576 2691 37165   2  14  84
 2 65 9 109040  1232   264  2260 540 830  696  208 1148 15528   2  14  84
 1 65 9 109896  1200   256  2100 374 622  422  165  739 9340   1  14  85
 0 69 7 111312  1200   256  2180 620 1072  635  273 1111 9096   2  10  87
 0 67 8 113196  1220   252  2188 728 1188  730  297 1172 7907   4  16  80
 1 68 10 113672  1204   252  2236 226 308  224   90  352 3978   3  25  72
 0 70 9 114892  1200   252  2212 462 756  505  197  812 9236   2  13  85
 1 70 10 116500  1200   252  2264 648 1028  755  257 1178 13484   4  15  81
 0 70 9 117200  1200   252  2300 216 384  287  100  426 5311   2  21  77
 0 68 10 117968  1200   252  2148 268 434  352  119  561 6789   4  18  78
 0 69 9 118976  1200   252  2220 384 658  442  166  691 5206   3  15  82
 0 67 9 119816  1200   252  2160 262 502  259  129  419 2642   4  17  79
 0 105 2 123368  1204   252  2168 1568 2184 1062  556 1868 32312   1  11  88
 0 97 10 124752  1204   252  2220 568 776  386  198  644 8953   2  20  78
 2 92 9 125776  5736   380  2232 672 790  621  198 1026 12068   3  19  78
 0 94 9 125608  4176   508  2328 488   0  244    7  354 6432   3  25  72
 2 96 9 125504  1964   636  2392 512  14  236    4  332 5676   6  20  74
 0 91 2 126684  1660   764  2732 5432 2734 2429  720 4793 70573   2   7  91
 1 89 0 126052  1940   764  2796 520 112  186   29  338 4257   4  21  75
 1 87 0 125520  2236   764  2820 592 136  199   36  386 3921   4  21  75
 0 87 0 125368  1244   764  2852 552  90  199   24  348 2660   5  19  76
 2 109 0 125272  1200   448  1884 578  62  199   24  355 2619   3  25  72

Machine had no response after this line...... :(

Thanks. :)

Ken

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Redhat Version Question
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:53:44 GMT

I'm running RH6.2 (I tried 7.0, and it was such a disaster that I blew
it off and went back to 6.2).  I've upgraded the kernel (my own build)
to 2.2.19, and I've upgraded to the most recent version of RPM (among
other things).  What else is different between 6.2 and 7.x that would
prevent me from using the RPMs for 7.x?  

IOW, when I want to do upgrades (like, for instance, I'm doing by
going to Samba 2.2 today), what do I need to do to make the machine
capable of using 7.x RPMs instead of 6.2?  I'm wondering because I'm
concerned that at at some point there will no longer be support for
the 6.2 distro.

-- 
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interglobal space lines  * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org 

"Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..."
Replace first . with @ and throw out the "@trash." to email me.  
Here's my email address for autospammers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:08:01 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Server overload problem during peak hours (more info)

Ken Fung wrote:
> 
> These are the additional information for my situation.
> The "top" screen and the "vmstat 2" screen.
> 
> "top":
> 
>  10:48pm  up  4:36,  2 users,  load average: 76.74, 48.74, 24.40
> 247 processes: 244 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states:  2.3% user, 14.3% system,  0.0% nice, 87.4% idle
> Mem:  119636K av, 118388K used,   1248K free,  87232K shrd,    252K buff
> Swap: 130748K av, 118736K used,  12012K free                  2200K cached

Ah, that's looks "better", you need to put in more RAM, I would at least
suggest upgrading to 512 MB, then check if it's enough.

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel version number
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:01:30 +1000

Peet Grobler wrote:
> 
> Why would a vendor want to revise the kernel?
> 
> Duane Healing wrote in message ...
> >That number is usually vendor specific and represents their revision of
> >that kernel version. That's why the standard issue kernels don't have it.
> >
> >--
> >-Duane
> >
> >In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "ulty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at
> >the keyboard thusly:
> >> As far as kernel versions go, say we have:
> >>
> >> 2.2.12-20
> >>
> >> we have the major number, minor number, and patch level, what does the
> >> -20 represent?

Mandrake grabs patches all over the place to put extra functionality
into theirs, such as reiserfs before it became part of the main kernel
release, supermount, which is still not part of the main release,
probably for good reasons, and for the 2.4.5 kernel, something called
swan*****, which I think has to do with encryption.

Joal Heagney/AncientHart

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From: Thomas Runte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: send/receive fax on suse linux 7.1
Date: 4 Jun 2001 10:13:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi, 

after having spent lots of time trying to get hylafax to work together with 
my USR 56K message modem (I would still be happy about a working 
config.modem) I am starting to wonder, if my ELSA ISDN card can't do the 
job. I know that send/receive fax is extremely easy with windows using the 
CAPI 2.0 interface so I just can't imagine that there is no such solution 
for linux.   

Any ideas ? 

Regards Thomas


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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Version Question
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:08:15 +1000

Rand Simberg wrote:
> 
> I'm running RH6.2 (I tried 7.0, and it was such a disaster that I blew
> it off and went back to 6.2).  I've upgraded the kernel (my own build)
> to 2.2.19, and I've upgraded to the most recent version of RPM (among
> other things).  What else is different between 6.2 and 7.x that would
> prevent me from using the RPMs for 7.x?

The glibc version usually bites me on the bum more times than not. If
you really want a new version of something, you can grab the src.rpms
and
rpm --rebuild *.src.rpm
and then pray that it goes smoothly. If not, you can jump into the
source install on
/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/<package>, compile it in there (Getting hints from
the spec file under /usr/src/RPM/SPECS), go to the spec directory and
then do
rpm -bi --short-circuit <package>.spec  # install into the temp
directory rpm uses
rpm -bb --short-circuit <package>.spec  # package everything under the
temp dir into rpms

Of course you really have to be eager. And every now and again there's
another package you have to update first before you can build. (Eg.
going from Mandrake-7.2 modutils to modutils-2.4 I had to install the
kernel 2.2.19 and header files first. Then modutils built.)

Joal Heagney/AncientHart

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: power up in wee hours, cron jobs run twice
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:06:02 GMT

On 01 Jun 2001 05:16:59 +0800, Dan Jacobson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I don't know it this happens in your linux distribution, but every day
>say I power up at 1:00 AM. and a few minutes later anacron runs the
>appropriate jobs.  At about 4AM they get rerun by the main cron, etc.
>Today is the first of the month so it is running the cron.monthly so
>it is even more ridiculous, with about an whole hour of wear and tear
>on my hard disk.

Why are you complaining?  Some people power their machines up/down
like light switches, and some leave their machines on for long periods
of time, and some are somewhere in the middle.  If you run your
machine like a light switch, anacron will end up doing most of the
scheduled type stuff, and perhaps you should remove cron from your
system.  If you leave your system up for days on end, most of the
scheduled work gets done by cron, and the anacron stuff almost never
runs.  You could delete/remove anacron then if you wanted to.

But, in general you are more than welcome to adjust the timing of
anacron or cron type jobs to suit your situation.  Myself, I often get
up at 5am, and will often find myself online when tripwire starts
doing it's thing, chewing up CPU time crawling through my 6 disks.  I
keep meaning to move some of these "night" jobs to a time more like
3am than 7am.  Some people are morning people and some are night
people.  If the people who set up some kind of default cron schedule
for your system (in your case Mandrake, in mine Debian) are the
opposite sort of night/morning people, you will find time consuming
jobs running when you would rather they didn't.  The solution is to
reschedule them yourself.  It's not a good thing to just delete them,
as some of these jobs need to get done on a daily/weekly/monthly
basis.  For example, fsck probably should get run through cron if you
never shut your machine down.

Just my $0.02.
Gord


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Date: 4 Jun 2001 17:21:29 +0100
From: "Georges Heinesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlightenment and Logitech MouseMan
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x

Hi.

My Logitech MouseMan isn't working properly witrh Enlightenment
0.16, I can drag the windows (hence, the button is recognized), but
the E "User Menu" doesn't show up.

What I use now is ...

===== /etc/XF86Config =====
    Section "Pointer"
        Protocol        "Wsmouse"
        Device          "/dev/wsmouse0"
        ZAxisMapping    4 5
        Buttons         5
    EndSection
===== cut here =====

Everything works (even the wheel), except the left mouse button.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

-- 
Cu  Georges Heinesch, Luxembourg
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    http://www.geohei.lu
    PGP RSA & DH/DSS public key on request and on public servers

... watch your 6 ...


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Version Question
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:24:31 +0200

Rand Simberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running RH6.2 (I tried 7.0, and it was such a disaster that I blew
> it off and went back to 6.2).  I've upgraded the kernel (my own build)
> to 2.2.19, and I've upgraded to the most recent version of RPM (among
> other things).  What else is different between 6.2 and 7.x that would
> prevent me from using the RPMs for 7.x?  

Eevrything. They're binary incompatible. You'd have to use src.rpms.

Peter

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From: Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Netscape - How Can I Install/Run?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:59:11 -0400

hihihi wrote:
 
> Alexvali wrote:
 
> > I tried to install Netscape from a CD and it doesn't work. Could somebody
> > please explain me how should I do it?
 
> Was it a .rpm file ?
> What was the command line that you tried ?
> What where the error messages that you got from it ?
> Where you ROOT when you did this ?
> More details please :-))

Using RHL 5.1 as root, with 4.72 installed:

With wget I downloaded the gz file of Netscape 4.77 because I couldn't
find an RPM of that version. After unzipping I ran ./ns-install from the
temp dir unzipped to. It wanted to know where to install. There was no
MOZILLA_HOME environment variable. The only choices that appeared to be
where it was previously installed were /usr/bin/netscape and
/usr/lib/netscape. I told it to install in /usr/lib/netscape. It claimed
to successfully install, but when I went to Gnome and clicked the
existing icon, I got 4.72 again.

I found the Gnome rpm applet and told it to uninstall Netscape. It
seemed that's what it was doing. Afterward, the startup icon remained. I
clicked it and nothing happened. Then I ran the same ./ns-install as
before. Again it claimed a successful install. This time clicking the
Gnome Netscape icon continues to do nothing. The command line in the app
starter is /usr/bin/netscape, which is a shell script. If I try to
execute that script from a prompt, the message "it does not appear
netscape is installed" displays.

Where should I have told it to install?

What should the MOZILLA_HOME be set to, and from which config file?

What do I have to do to run 4.77?
-- 
A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under
control.                Proverbs 29:11 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/

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From: "daltrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:06:11 -0500

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hello,

"Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hello,
>
> we have a rh6.2 box with win2000 and win98 clients.
> the win98 clients can see the linux box in network neighbourhood
> but the win2000 cannot.
>
> thank you.
>
>
>

double check that your win2k box is on the same subnet as your linux
box.  i have ran into problems with cable companies that use dhcp,
giving out ip addresses that are in 2 and 3 different subnets
sometimes.  for a computer running smb to show up in network
neighborhood, they must have the same broadcast address. take these
examples..

65.27.20.0 -- 65.27.21.255   anything in this range would be
considered on the same subnet if the subnet mask was 255.255.254.0
65.27.20.0 -- 65.27.20.255   anything in this range would be
considered on the same sunbnet if the subnet mask was 255.255.255.0

the broadcast on these subnets is the upper limit, 65.27.21.255 and
65.27.20.255 ... so as you can see, if your subnet mask differs, your
broadcasts addresses change and your systems cant talk through
netbios without a router or a wins server on each side.

i think if you would do an  "ipconfig /all" on your windoze boxes and
an "ifconfig" on your linux box and copy and paste the output into
this newsgroup we could help you out much more.

good luck.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (naren)
Subject: problem with cursor
Date: 4 Jun 2001 09:07:20 -0700

Hi,
       I have got a problem with my X-windows. When I start an X-session
instead of displaying normal arrow shaped cursor, a square shaped
(approximately 3cmx3cm size) cursor appears. Can any one help me?

I have a redhat6.2 version on a AMDK6-2 system, with S3 trio 3D-2X graphics
card.

thanks in advance,
Naren

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