Linux-Setup Digest #435, Volume #21              Wed, 13 Jun 01 22:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  New HD Install ("Cameron Loranger")
  Re: RedHat v7.0 installation on Alpha 164LX (Robert Fleming)
  Re: New HD Install (Steve Martin)
  Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another? (Steve Martin)
  Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another? (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Two Mandrake 8.0 Problems (Keith Schoolcraft)
  Re: Dualboot Linux with Win9X on old skool computer! (Keith Schoolcraft)
  Re: New HD Install (AppleBee)
  Re: ide-tape.o errors (Denis Leroy)
  Re: ide-tape.o errors (Denis Leroy)
  Undefined value as an array reference error on L-M 8.0 (DGodwin1)
  Re: RH 7.1: piece of garbage? ("???")
  Re: Redhat 7.1 / Promise Ultra 66 install problem. (Riyaz Mansoor)
  Re: linux ftp, ncftp etc (Riyaz Mansoor)
  Netscape's network connection was refused by the server ("Bob Bourne")

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From: "Cameron Loranger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New HD Install
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:19:39 GMT

I'm running a Win98 box right now, and to rid myself of this os, I've bought
a new 40gb hard drive to put linux on. I have also purchased Red Hat Linux
7.1 Deluxe, so I have cd's. There is no way linux will need that much space,
so, I'd like to partition this new drive for both fat32 (10gb) and leave the
linux partition 30gb. I'm wondering how I should go about partitioning this
new hard drive.

Should I format the fat32 first and then the linux partition, or install
linux first? I'd really like to do this, but if the difficulty really
negates the reason, feel free to let me know.

thanks

     -- cameron





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From: Robert Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RedHat v7.0 installation on Alpha 164LX
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:24:01 -0600

"P.Ravialahan" wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P.Ravialahan) wrote in message 
>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > recently I got to install RedHat Linux 7.0 on an AlphaPC with the
> > configurations given at the end of this message
> >
> > NONE of three installation modes are working out >>>
> Is any one how to get rid of this problem???
> 
> >
> > 1)Installer gets crashed while loading the UI on GUI installation mode
> > SRM console commamd used:
> > boot dqb0 -file /kernels/vmlinux.gz -flags "root=/dev/hda
> > initrd=images/ramdisk.img"
> > gives "Gdk: error"
> >
> > 2) When I was trying to install by "Text mode" with the SRM console
> > command as follows:
> > boot dqb0 -file /kernels/vmlinux.24 -flags "root=/dev/hda
> > initrd=images/ramdisk.img"
> > during this process, installation went well for first two
> > steps[Language selection, Locale settings,  ]
> > on third step [installer source location--  Local
> > CDRom/HardDisk/NFS/FTP-HTTP]
> > It gives a message as follows "unable read Local CDROM......"
> >
> > 3) while using the command
> > boot dqb0 -file /kernels/vmlinux.j -flags "root=/dev/hda
> > initrd=images/ramdisk.img"
> > Its geting stucked in "uncompressing process" --- no error
> > message/running process
> >
> > Hardware configuration & SRM level used as follows:
> >
> > SRM level:   5.8-1
> > Graphics card: Fire GL 1000  ---- PCI
> > Mother board: Alpha PC 164LX
> > Processor: Digital Alpha 21164, 600 MHz
> > Display: COMPAQ Presario V410 Model 304u
> > HDD: Quantum FireBall LM A35  -----IDE
> > CD-ROM: Asus 50x   CD-S500/A  2.0H  ------IDE
> > Sound Card: Creative Labs sound Blaster 1.5, Pro 16  ---- ISA

You need to probe the hardware to see what is avalible.  If you type
"show dev"
in the srm you will find that one of the devices is your cdrom. 
>From there you issue the "boot <device> -fi /kernels/vmlinux.gz -fl 0"
you may have to change the boot flags but pretty much every thing else
is standard.  If you have been using hda as root try scd0 instead
because you are booting mostlikely off a scsi cdrom.




-- 
Robert Fleming
Systems Administrator

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New HD Install
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:40:38 -0400

Cameron Loranger wrote:
> 
> I'm running a Win98 box right now, and to rid myself of this os, I've bought
> a new 40gb hard drive to put linux on. I have also purchased Red Hat Linux
> 7.1 Deluxe, so I have cd's. There is no way linux will need that much space,
> so, I'd like to partition this new drive for both fat32 (10gb) and leave the
> linux partition 30gb. I'm wondering how I should go about partitioning this
> new hard drive.
> 
> Should I format the fat32 first and then the linux partition, or install
> linux first? I'd really like to do this, but if the difficulty really
> negates the reason, feel free to let me know.

If you're really serious about ridding yourself of Windows 98, why
even put a FAT32 partition on the drive? Put it in your existing
box as a second drive, install Linux on it, and keep both until
you're comfortable with your new Linux system.

I'd make the new drive the master drive, re-jumper the Windows
drive as the slave, install Linux on the new drive, and set up
LILO to boot either OS. If you'd like some hand-holding through
the process, contact me off-list and I'll help any way I can.


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:41:49 -0400

"Erick Woertz Jr." wrote:
> 
> I've got ME on one harddrive right now, and I just came across a free
> harddrive at work, and want to put linux on that one, keep windows on the
> one in my computer now, and set up a dual boot that way.  is it possible at
> all?  can anyone help?

It most certainly is possible. I'm running a two-hard-disk system
right now with Win88, WinNT, and RH 7.1 all happily coexisting.

How big is the recently-acquired drive?


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:46:34 -0500

Erick Woertz Jr. wrote:

> I've got ME on one harddrive right now, and I just came across a free
> harddrive at work, and want to put linux on that one, keep windows on the
> one in my computer now, and set up a dual boot that way.  is it possible
> at
> all?  can anyone help?
> 
> 
> 

Install Mandrake and very carefully read the install questions especially 
at the time of configuring lilo.  Put the Windoze disk as the primary slave 
(/dev/hdb) and make the Linux disk the primary master (/dev/hda).  
Mandrake's installer will configure a proper lilo.conf for you and you will 
be able to boot either Linux or Windoze.


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From: Keith Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two Mandrake 8.0 Problems
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:09:41 GMT

Regarding the CD issue are you sure you got good disks?  If you burned
them yourself you might have a bad image.  Don't know about your second
question.  Sorry.

Yu Di wrote:

> Hi, I just installed Mandrake 8.0 on my system (PII350, 288M memory),
> basicly it worked ok, but there were two problems:
>
> (1)Regarding CD-Rom:
>     During four attempts of installation, the system simply freezed
> when it was reading from the installation CD, and I had to reboot and
> re-install from the start. I know that my CD-Rom driver has some
> problems (sometimes it refuses to pop out, etc.), but I don't know why
> it can cause a system freeze.
>     Finally, it happened to work and I got Mandrake installed. But
> then after I rebooted, and tried to use "Software Manager" to install
> some more RPMs from the disks, it keeps popping out my CD and saying
> that it's not the correct CD.
>     I "ls"ed /mnt/cdrom, and found that there was nothing there! I
> "umount"ed the disk, mounted it again, and there was still nothing. I
> tried to "umount" again, and it said "device mounted more than one
> time" or something like that.
>     Finally I issued "supermount -i disable", and re-booted the
> system, and mounted the disk again, then it recognized the disk. But
> when I tried to install the RPM of gimp from the disk, after the
> progress bar goes to the end, the system freezed again! I had to press
> "reset", and was asked to do "fsck" by hand. Lucky that fsck finished
> successfully.
>     And, when I finally got into the system again, I found that gimp
> was actually successfully installed!
>     So what could be the problem here?
>
> (2)Regarding time-zone:
>     I wrongfully set "use GMT in hardware clock" in the installation
> process, and as a result my time display was wrong. I then used
> "Mandrake Control Center" to change the time-zone settings, but when I
> answered "no" to "use GMT" question, it did not change the time
> display, and the cursor becomed a clock and remained so ever after
> (the control center still responds to mouse/keyboard inputs, it just
> never finished the updating of time zone configuration). I had to shut
> down X, use linuxconf to change that, and reboot, and adjust the CMOS
> time in BIOS, then it worked.
>     So why was the control center behaving like that?
>
> Thanks!!


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From: Keith Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dualboot Linux with Win9X on old skool computer!
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:14:52 GMT

It depends what you want to do with this system.  Sure its possible to duel
boot.  Fdisk and cut your disk up leave at least a gig for linux and Install
win98 first then install linux.  Create a swap file then just install everything
else to just \  root since you have little space to work with.

Rich wrote:

> Hi, I have just received and old school Pentium 166 with a 2.5GB hard disk
> and I was wondering whether anybody could point me in the right direction as
> to partition sizes and whether it would be possible to dual boot with
> 98lite? If you know of any decent websites which explain this please mail
> me!
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Rich


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AppleBee)
Subject: Re: New HD Install
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:30:18 -0000

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:19:39 GMT, Cameron Loranger
 <<fySV6.4988$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

::

> I'm running a Win98 box right now, and to rid myself of this os, I've bought
> a new 40gb hard drive to put linux on. I have also purchased Red Hat Linux
> 7.1 Deluxe, so I have cd's. There is no way linux will need that much space,
> so, I'd like to partition this new drive for both fat32 (10gb) and leave the
> linux partition 30gb. I'm wondering how I should go about partitioning this
> new hard drive.
> 
> Should I format the fat32 first and then the linux partition, or install
> linux first? I'd really like to do this, but if the difficulty really
> negates the reason, feel free to let me know.
> 

Format the HD using the supplied software and when you go to
format it make one HD partition 10 Mb and the other 30 Mb. 
If you want to make your partitions different sizes for RH linux
you can do that when you install it. 




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Leroy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ide-tape.o errors
Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:52:29 -0700

Ga Mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> HELP!
> 
> I have an HP/Colorado 4/8 GB Travan-3 tape drive in a newly constructed
> RedHat Linux 7.1 system.  The tape drive is currently configured as
> /dev/hdd and I have /dev/tape linked to /dev/ht0.  (Or is that /dev/ht0
> linked to /dev/tape...)  I am trying to restore files from a backup made
> on another system. That system had no problem writing to the same drive
> (it was moved from the old system to the new).  mt commands appear to
> work fine.  E.g., I can retension the tape with 'mt retension'.
> However, tar can't read from the drive.  I get the following error
> messages when I try:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> [root@c1125351-a backup]# tar -xzf /dev/tape
> tar (child): /dev/tape: Cannot read: Input/output error
> <...snip...>
> [root@c1125351-a backup]#
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> If I look in /var/log/messages, I see this:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> May 29 11:01:26 c1125351-a kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_chrdev_open
> 
> May 29 11:01:26 c1125351-a kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc =  8,
> key =  5, asc = 2c, ascq =  0
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> I remember having the same problem with the same error/log messages when
> I initially got the drive going in the original system.  Unfortunately,
> I can't for the life of me remember what I did to resolve the problem
> the first time.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Greg



The solution is to use the device in SCSI emulation mode, it'll work just fine.

 modprobe ide-scsi
 modprobe st

drive is now available as /dev/st0 and /dev/nst0

-denis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Leroy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ide-tape.o errors
Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:52:30 -0700

Ga Mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> HELP!
> 
> I have an HP/Colorado 4/8 GB Travan-3 tape drive in a newly constructed
> RedHat Linux 7.1 system.  The tape drive is currently configured as
> /dev/hdd and I have /dev/tape linked to /dev/ht0.  (Or is that /dev/ht0
> linked to /dev/tape...)  I am trying to restore files from a backup made
> on another system. That system had no problem writing to the same drive
> (it was moved from the old system to the new).  mt commands appear to
> work fine.  E.g., I can retension the tape with 'mt retension'.
> However, tar can't read from the drive.  I get the following error
> messages when I try:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> [root@c1125351-a backup]# tar -xzf /dev/tape
> tar (child): /dev/tape: Cannot read: Input/output error
> <...snip...>
> [root@c1125351-a backup]#
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> If I look in /var/log/messages, I see this:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> May 29 11:01:26 c1125351-a kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_chrdev_open
> 
> May 29 11:01:26 c1125351-a kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc =  8,
> key =  5, asc = 2c, ascq =  0
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> I remember having the same problem with the same error/log messages when
> I initially got the drive going in the original system.  Unfortunately,
> I can't for the life of me remember what I did to resolve the problem
> the first time.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Greg



The solution is to use the device in SCSI emulation mode, it'll work just fine.

 modprobe ide-scsi
 modprobe st

drive is now available as /dev/st0 and /dev/nst0

-denis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DGodwin1)
Date: 14 Jun 2001 00:53:34 GMT
Subject: Undefined value as an array reference error on L-M 8.0

While trying to install Linux Mandrake on a computer everything went smoothly,
until I got to the "configure X" portion.  After the install program detected
the video card, and I chose the approriate monitor, I get the error, "Can't use
an undefined value as an array reference"  The computer was running Linux
Mandrake 8.0 previously, with only a different monitor.  I can't seem to figure
out the problem.  Any solutions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
advance.

Daniel
System:
ASUS sp97-v mobo w/ SiS5597/5598 video chipset built in
233 pentium
64 mb ram (4shared with video)
HP M45/S40 Monitor
DLink DE-528CT PCI NIC



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From: "???" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.1: piece of garbage?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:40:20 +0800


"robin barbehenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?????
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> While what you are saying is undoubtedly true, one of the reasons why
> linux is not more popular is because when people ask for help,
> politely or otherwise, someone always has the same answer---let's say
> it altogether now--RTFM!!! Experience level and understanding vary
> greatly and not everyone can figure out these howtos.  I find most of
> them extremely poorly written and very difficult to decipher without
> help.  This is mostly because they are often way out of date and the
> instructions they give no longer work with newer versions of linux.
> Someone with years if not decades of experience can fly right through
> them.  We might get more people to use linux if the first words out of
> mouths are not "read this".  Most of the time, helping that person to
> get started and then referring him to documentation later is more
> likely to be successful.  If you do not wish to lend the time and
> patience to help, then leave it alone.
>
> RB

Yes,  this "RTFM" things keep me away from asking questions. Usually I just
search newsgroups for related answers and try to RTFM & fix the problems
by myself.  Waste a lot of time, indeed.  I do hope more people can help
newbies
like me to get started from somewhere and then refer to documentation later

But when someone said something is "piece of garbage"! I don't think he
needs
any information or helps (even RTFM) from others. Maybe he just want to tell
the world, he "hate" something and he is proud of that. Well, this is "free"
cyber
world. He has the right to "hate", hasn't he?

ada2




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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1 / Promise Ultra 66 install problem.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:39:33 +1000



try setting your cdrom PIO to 4 in your bios.

if it does not work, re post with the contents of what u get when u press
ALT+F4, there should be details about it in that window.

riyaz


C wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm trying to install RH7.1 on my home machine
>
> (Digital Venturis 6200 with a 333Mhz Pentium Overdrive processor it has 64MB
> Ram and a Promise Ultra66 controller (latest bios) and a AC28400R WD disk
> which detects correctly on the controller.)
> Onboard IDE is used for the CD i boot from, nothing else in the machine, the
> display is an onboard Matrox MGA 2MB.
>
> The installation bombs everytime (in both text and gui modes) when the
> "installing software" screens come on, (after the software selections &
> partitioninings)
> I have it dual booted with NT which works fine.
> The error message is
> pfd:<some number> Xlib: unexpected async reply
>
> on the console
>
> tried all sorts of combinations of partitioning and installation.
> Doesn't help.
>
> Would appreciate suggestions/help.
> Thanks
> Cyrus


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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux ftp, ncftp etc
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:43:07 +1000




David Efflandt wrote:

>
> Yes, but have you edited $HOME/.ncftp/firewall for your firewall-host and
> firewall-port, maybe with firewall-type=1?  Can Netscape access ftp://
> URL's when properly configured for your proxy.
>

i tried 3 and 6 which seemed the closest to me. but i'll try 1.


>
> > any other tips?
>
> Get a different ISP.  Otherwise you may never be able to telnet or ssh to
> an internet host (free shell acct, etc.), or use any other POP3 servers,
> or do irc, or use time servers...
>
> >

hehe. can't switch. :(

on a different note, aren't there linux ftp clients that handle http
proxy/firewalls?

well maybe the same note.

riyaz


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From: "Bob Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape's network connection was refused by the server
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:53:52 +1000

Three examples:
Netscape's network connection was refused by the server
home.netscape.com
etc.
Netscape's network connection was refused by the server
www.debian.org
etc.
Netscape's network connection was refused by the server
packages.debian.org
etc.
She's asking for Configuration location (URL)
and SOCKS Host:
  Lynx connects and downloads, OK.
[Communicator 4.77]
[dist: debian 2.2 R3 i386, 3cdrom set]
[$ export http_proxy="http://proxy.sale.vic.australis.com.au:80/"; - has been
set.]
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
PM - replies to me fine.
Bob Bourne.





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