On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Luc Verhaegen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:46:21PM -0500, [email protected] wrote: >> Videos of the announcement here... >> http://www.linaro.org/linaro-blog/2014/03/03/linaro-connect-asia-2014-kicks-off-in-macau/ >> >> http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/allwinner-joins-linaro-as-a-founding-member-of-the-linaro-digital-home-group-248195871.html >> >> Let's hope this translates to full corporate support for upstreaming >> to mainline. >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > http://liliputing.com/2014/03/allwinner-joins-linaro-digital-home-group-commits-open-source-chip-support.html > > As i stated on irc, i am not too happy with allwinner joining linaro. > > For quite a few of the linaro member companies, this is really just > another consortium. They dispatch some fluff "engineers" that are > usually not too useful anywhere else, and then pat themselves on the > back that they are now actively doing the "open source" thing as well.
I think you are misreading this. Allwinnner is trying to increase their appeal in Western markets. Joining Linaro will increase these Western ties. Big companies that have already made it send fluff engineers, not small companies climbing the ladder. Smartest thing for Allwinner to do is rotate their engineers through Linaro relatively quickly so that they learn normal Linux practices. I would very much like to see Allwinner adopt normal Linux and Android build practices and become more involved in upstreaming code. Right now they just release tarballs which have no history or any way of tracking changes. So if Linaro teaches them about these processes we are all winners. I'd love to just see the first step of them maintaining forked Android repos off from Google's master copies. In turn that would let their customers fork the Allwinner repos with their custom changes. Doing that would enable security updates to flow through the repo chain. Currently there is absolutely no mechanism for pushing security updates. > > I was getting hopeful with allwinner talking to some of us directly in > the last few weeks. But now that i learned that they joined linaro, that > hope was lost. Allwinner joining linaro will only reduce Allwinners > active contributions to linux-sunxi in future. They have chosen to back > linaro instead, and will now dispatch some dispensable "engineers" to > linaro, and feel good about themselves. And then they will turn around > to us and state: "but we are already doing open source, at linaro". There are some topnotch Linux engineers working at Linaro. Let's hope they mentor the Allwinner people so that they can take the practices they learn back to China. Besides, why can't linux-sunxi cooperate with the Linaro people? Everything Linaro does is on open mailing lists and servers. Maybe some of the linux-sunxi developers might poke around inside Linaro now and see if they can get themselves hired. > > Luc Verhaegen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "linux-sunxi" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jon Smirl [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
