>> >> second bug with ftdi usb/serial converter. you can see kernel output
>> >> in kern1.log
>> 
>> AS> This is a known bug.  It happens sometimes when you rmmod one of the USB
>> AS> host controller drivers while devices are plugged in and in use by usbfs.  
>> AS> To avoid this bug, either don't rmmod ohci_hcd or else stop all processes 
>> AS> using a USB device first.
>> 
>> i do rmmod only if usb subsystem stop working.

AS> Your kernel log did not show the part where the USB subsystem stopped 
AS> working.  It only showed the part where you did rmmod.

i can send more kernel logs if necessary.

AS> Also, what do you mean when you say "usb subsystem stop working"?

users can't sync PDA's ;)

can you say what information is necessary? i can collect it after next
crash.

now i try answer to existing questions from memory

AS>  Do other USB devices still work?

i have ohci (serverworks, onboard) an uhci/ehci (via, pci)
controllers.
"usb subsystem stop working" mean none devices work on one controller

AS>   Can you cat /proc/bus/usb/devices?

i don't know... but lsusb show my usb modem and ftdi usb-serial device.

AS>  Does anything show up in the system log if you plug in or unplug
AS> a device? 

nothing



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