I mounted it 'ro' as vfat and got this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# mount -t vfat -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt/mp3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# ls -l /mnt/mp3
total 16
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2000-10-30 14:45 fm
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2004-12-13 05:43 music
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root  438 2000-10-30 14:45 settings.dat
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2000-10-30 14:45 voice
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# ls -l /mnt/mp3/music/
total 20
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-01-11 09:52 AmandaMarshall
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2004-12-13 05:47 AmiStewart
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-01-11 09:56 LisaStansfield
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-01-11 10:09 PaulaAbdul
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2004-11-27 18:35 Santana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# cp -a /mnt/mp3/music/AmandaMarshall/audio_* .
cp: reading `/mnt/mp3/music/AmandaMarshall/audio_01.mp3': Input/output error

So, it didn't seem to make much of a difference, as I by this only got:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root     16384 2006-09-08 18:56 audio_01.mp3*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root         0 2006-09-08 18:57 audio_02.mp3*

Attempting to mount it as 'msdos' instead of 'vfat' didn't seem to make 
much of a difference:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    114688 2006-09-08 19:19 audio_01.mp3*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root         0 2006-09-08 19:24 audio_02.mp3*

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# mount -t msdos -o ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mp3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/plr# cp -a /mnt/mp3/music/amanda~1/* .
cp: reading `/mnt/mp3/music/amanda~1/audio_01.mp3': Input/output error

The debug /var/log/debug file is filled up with attempts and reattempts 
to access the device. If you would like to have a look I'll post them.

I don't think we should make Linux behave like XP, but perhaps if XP has 
a way to deal with this device so it works, we might also be able to 
make it?

Any ideas or suggestions are welcome, and I'll see what I can do.

Peter

Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Peter Rasmussen wrote:
>
>   
>> OK, I know there is a lot of cr^H^Hno-good devices in the USB market.
>>     
>
> That's putting it mildly!  :-)
>
>   
>> I do however, with this particular device remember that I at one time 
>> had this device working with my Linux desktop, and I believe it was 
>> early to middle 2.4'ish, but even then I remember that it was very 
>> fickle. I could only mount it as 'msdos' (not vfat) and I could only do 
>> one thing at a time (eg. removing old files or copying new files over) 
>> before rebooting it, otherwise it would freeze.
>>     
>
> About like I saw (although the device I had could be mounted okay as
> vfat).  I have trouble even imagining what sort of firmware peculiarities
> could cause these behaviors.  It's as though they went out of their way to
> make the device hard-to-use.
>
>   
>> On my PC at work with WinXP I can with no specific software remove and 
>> copy files over without any problem, and I can see that it mounts is as 
>> vfat because I can for example create files with upper/lower case.
>>
>> Should I investigate which 2.4 kernel it was that I could use it with? I 
>> am not sure about what the binutils and other supporting software was, 
>> but if you think it would be useful I'll see if I can find the right 
>> combination again.
>>     
>
> I don't think there's much point.  Any significant changes in the kernel 
> since the 2.4 days are not likely to be undone, for any reason.  Nor is 
> the kernel likely to be changed in any major respect to make it behave 
> more like Windows XP.
>
> Does the device work any better if you mount it read-only?  Obviously this 
> would defeat the purpose of maintaining the files on the device.  But if 
> it worked then at least we would have a small clue.
>
>   
>> I have had enough bad experiences reg. contacting HW manufacturers about 
>> Linux support of their devices, so I stopped doing that some time ago (I 
>> started using Linux in 1993, and funny enough, it has never really 
>> become easier to change their minds about starting to provide info or 
>> support for something they didn't already, and they couldn't care less 
>> about a potential consumer threating *not* to buy their product, sigh!).
>>     
>
> An all-too-common experience, unfortunately.
>
> Alan Stern
>   

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