On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 01:22, Martin Baehr wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 04:27:22PM +1200, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
> >     1.3  WYSIWYG is impossible.  (Bug, or not :) )
> 
> WYSIWYG is impossible period!
> printer and monitor are just so fundamentally different,
> you will never get the same output on both.
Almost, but not quite.  We'll stary by hand-waving over the problem of
RGB->CMYK  conversion.  Now you are left with two problems.
  1. Screen resolution (72 DPI) is different from the printer 
     resolution (> 200 DPI).  IBM have a nifty trick to solve this: LCD
     monitors with an enormous resolution.  Sure they cost over $US10K 
     a throw, but you approach 200 DPI resolution.  Ironically the 
     super-high resolution monitors are *cheaper* to make than standard
     LCD monitors, but when you have a fifteen-year  patent you may as 
     well make the most of it :)
  2. The way you specify the image is different between the display and
     printer.  Both Windows and X suffer this problem as the programmer
     has to figure out how to convert the displayed image into a 
     printed image.  This problem is solved by adopting the same output
     language for both.  The NeWS and NeXT systems both adopted 
     "Display PostScript", which later mutated into PDF.  MacOS X 
     adopted PDF as the display system, which allows programers to 
     write the display routine *once* and the output is then
     same for both paper and screen.

RGB->CMYK conversion is a bit of an arse, and there is not many ways to
get around it.  Ok, there is one way, you go to Pantone� and fork over a
wad of cash.  You can then use Pantone� colour set which looks the same
on the screen and when printed.  The GIMP will never replace Photoshop
because free software cannot afford the cost of implementing the
Pantone� colour scheme.  (Caveat: I am an HCI expert, not a graphic
designer, I only dabble in most of this stuff\ldots )

Anyway, it is all by the by as everyone should get hard and learn LaTeX
:)
 
> > 4.  Lack of standards for "fancy" UI features, such as Drag and drop, 
> >     clipboard, global menus, tasklists...
> 
> what are global menues?
Global menus are things like the GNOME menu, the KDE menu, the Clip menu
in WindowMaker, the root menu in TWM...
 
> > 4.  THE MIDDLE MOUSE BUTTON for paste.  (Ok, technically not an X 
> >     feature, rather a widget-set feature, but we will put it in 
> >     anyway.)
> 
> copy and paste IS a problem though.
> while i do like the speed of X pasting, the fact that i can't select
> two things and replace the second selection
> with the first is often annoying.
Try using the Cut and Paste menu options for doing this.  Cut and Paste
work from a slightly different clipboard (called CLIPBOARD) than the
middle mouse-button clipboard (which uses PRIMARY).  The only trick is
that you have to be using GTK+ >= 1.2, QT >=3, XEmacs >= 20, and
Netscape/Mozilla >=4, as these systems have all agreed on how Cut and
Paste should work.
-- 
Michael JasonSmith      http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpj17/

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