Which is why I use emacs as my HTML editor and konqueror, Galeon and Mozilla 
as the test browsers - I'd use the IE that came with my box's Win98, but I 
can't be bothered with installing it under wine.

konqueror is very strict - if konqueror and Mozilla give the thumbs down to a 
web page, I know I've got to redo it.

Wesley Parish

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:33, you wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> David Mann wrote:
> > BTW the tutor who taught the DW course I went on last year was of the
> > opinion that you should only bother writing for MSIE.  And he's done
> > pages for several high-profile businesses.
>
> Sounds like an MS Certified puppet. He might know how to run DW and
> Frontpage and all the other 'pro' apps, but could he peruse HTML
> syntax in a text editor and know if its gonna work?
>
> > BTW2 the problem with standards is not only getting the web
> > designers/developers to follow them, but also getting the web browsers to
> > format the same HTML in a consistent manner.  Oh and actually having
> > complete standards helps (I never want to use frames again).
>
> The problem with standards is that M$ don't like not controlling them.
> Just look at Javascript..."lets write a slightly compatible thing, call
> it JScript, and encourage web authors to use that instead of the real
> McCoy", is how M$ went about that one.
>
> As a result people who want to write dynamic websites often will only
> do so for MSIE, which again renders websites slightly differently from
> the W3C HTML 4.x Consortium standard. I have seen Javascript code in
> M$ sponsored websites that executes a Javascript window.close() upon
> detecting a non-MSIE browser...
>
> I created a CV for myself using strict HTML 4.x/DHTML/CSS/Javascript
> on a Windows PC once. I had to make some 'alterations' to the small
> Javascripts to get them to work properly with MSIE, but once I got
> them working I then had to transfer the CV to my new linux PC. I
> found the Javascripts didn't work as expected in Moz/NN, and I had to
> change them back to the standard. Guys who use Frontpage or DW will
> not know that their software is creating non-strict code, because the
> code is automatically generated and therefore mostly hidden from the
> end-user (not that any guys who are certified in Frontpage/DW etc will
> actually know how the syntax -should- look...)
>
> It really sucks...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch.

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