> On a related topic, my boss today got a MO (Magneto-Optical) drive, and 
> has set it up fine under Linux. The MO media (size of floppy, with 

> A month ago we tried unsuccessfully to get data off a 4yr old CD-R, 
> leading to the search for something more stable.

Yeah right. When CDs first hit the market they claimed that too, what
do you think they'll claim for MO in ten years? When CD-R first hit the
market they made reduced claims to CD, but still in the decades. A few
years later, the first-generation dye of CD-Rs was proven rubbish.

There were only ever rather few proven brands of CD-R on the market,
Verbatim = Imation [1] were not one of them. Last week I tried t get
top-quality CD-Rs - forget it. Verbatim/Imation is sold as
top-of-the-line and with an expected 10-20% failure rate during/after
burning. Have a look at the recording surface and you'll puke. When I
asked whether they had something better they didn't know what to say.
Bottom line: there isn't anyone in any shop who has any clue about
longevity.

All the good-quality CD-Rs have disappeared from the market, most
notably Kodak. Of course, a cheap CD-burner makes things worse. The
closer the tolerance, the better the longevity (think about it, things
get worse over time). I know that a good Sony CRX185 burner only burns
about 200 CDs (IIRC) before tolerances become bad enough to cause the
first errors. These errors are of course corrected so won't show after
burning. Now when it's a few years later, ... you get the point.

Even proven technology gets you nowhere if manufacturing standards are
rock-bottom, as currently is the case with CD-Rs. Manufacturing changes
every few months at the latest, and with it any assurances there may
have been.

Back to the MO topic, Carl, what makes you think this is any better? Is
the longevity of the technology *proven*? Have the manufacturers
published the results of their longevity tests? Very few CD-R
manufacturers did (Kodak, TDK[2] are online). Anyone can claim
anything. Dump what the manufacturer is saying, you want independent
test results, everything else just makes you feel good.

If you want longevity, the only way I can realistically see is to use
different technologies or at least different brands of media, and to
copy to new media every few years. CDs score top and with some distance
on the will-there-be-a-drive-in-5-years scale.

Volker

[1] Same thing. Look at the codes in the ATIP area.

[2] 2 years ago a friend and I bought a few boxes of TDK. Most of them
are discoloured (cloudy) on the recording surface now, including the
ones which were in the 10-pack I opened only a few days ago. Good
technology maybe, still doesn't do me any good.

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