and a site our company designed:
http://www.nymph1.net

Nice flash elements and the site is totally navigable with a text based browser too. Our client wanted to sell his guiding services online and he wanted a site that stood apart from his competitors. His site does that. Flash can be replaced by animated gif's but they are larger and load slower - but they do not require a plugin. Ahhh tradeoff's. I am a hardcore open standards/source zealot but working in the real world of web development means using tools I'd rather not sometimes. Until we have something better (like animated PNG's or similar) this will continue to happen. Some like flashy sites, some just want the content. Taken to the extreme, why not have courier font point size 12 for all web pages? Because it would be u-g-l-y, on that I'm pretty sure we can all agree. Therefore the amount of "flashiness" is just a matter of degree isn't it? To each his own I guess. I can't wait till the OSS community finishes building web development tools to rival the proprietary ones. Sadly, there is a ways to go yet.

Oh yeah, by the way, do you want your site to NOT be found by search engines? Build it all in flash then! =) Flash elements are ok used in moderation but the surest way to kill search engine rankings is to use all flash.

My .002c worth.

Cheers

Jason

Chad wrote:

Yes, and used sensibly Shockwave is cool/useful/whatever, at least thats
my opinion.


I have yet to see a site where using shockwave/flash (is there a
difference?) has improved navigation, or has been used beneficially
with something that wouldn't have been possible without. I have however
seen many sites which are completely unusable because of it.



http://www.dxinvisiblewar.com/
Is a rather nice Flash/shockwave only site not sure if it's an improvement on what can be done by HTML once you take into account the size of it but is nice in a rather fancy, flashy kind of way (if you have broadband and a fast pc that is). And I doubt that any thing similar could be produced with out using Flash or Shockwave.


Chad







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