hey michael

re rms - what you said is roughly it, but it isn't so much that oss 
doesn't "share" in his beliefs it's more that certain key features of
the oss platform(in the political sense) are in conflict with what 
the fsf is all about.
and he is an amazing guy. 
completely unique and once you get 'past' his um unusual personal qualities,
which carry over into his written work & interviews etc, and start to see
what it is that he is on about it's hard not to agree with him.
well at least that's what i've found.

i'm going to have to think some more about the values/process distinction
you've made - could you remind me of this some time if i haven't replied
to it in the next few days?

still, back to the ot subject, even the oss can't avoid the wider
political and social implications of oss - for all that some of its
proponents like to think otherwise.

cheers
peter

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:41:36 +1300
Michael JasonSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 12:35, Peter Elliott wrote:
> > well i don't think it requires any twisting at all - surely openness(sp?)
> > in software reflects a desire/belief in an open society/world?
> Richard Stalman believes that Free Software is political.  That is why
> he disagrees with the Open Source movement, because it does not share
> his political and philosophical outlook.  It also explains why he has
> clung onto the term "Free" despite all the confusion it has caused.
> 
> Listening to him, I get the impression that he is more interested in
> values, rather than process.
> 
> -- 
> Michael JasonSmith                                   http://www.ldots.org/
> 
> 

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