On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:39, Jim Cheetham wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 22:59 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 21:52, Wesley Parish wrote:
> > > From my point of view, that DMCA-like extension to copyright has the
> > > effect of outlawing the use of the brain:
> > > "so that the prohibition against the making, importing, hiring and
> > >        selling of devices, services or information designed to
> > > circumvent "copy protection" be expanded to cover devices, services or
> > > information that circumvent technological protection measures that
> > > protect all rights provided to copyright owners, including
> > > communication, not just copying;"
> > >
> > > Bang goes the New Zealand Knowledge Economy if you can't get intimate
> > > and physical with your nearest and dearest to make a device a.k.a. a
> > > child's brain, with the ability and capacity of circumventing "copy
> > > protection"!  And then it suggests outlawing the hiring of such a
> > > device as an individual human equipped with a  brain with the ability
> > > and capacity of circumventing "copy protection".
> > >
> > > To put it bluntly, it doesn't make any sense.
> >
> > actually what you are saying doesn't make sense Wesley.
>
> Well, if you read into it carefully with a legal-language eye? :-)
>
> My child, because he has a brain, has the ability and capacity to
> "circumvent copy protection" at some stage in the future.
>
> And I, being the father, am therefore part of "making ... [a] device ...
> designed to circumvent copy protection".
>
> But, the get-out clause (sorry Wesley) is that a human being is not
> *primarily* designed for circumventing copy protection, that is a
> secondary activity, and therefore it doesn't apply :-)

Thanks.  I'm glad you can see the funny side of it. ;)  The law is still 
idiotic, though, being far, far too broad.

Still, it would be interesting to see just to what uses one could put these 
overly broad provisions - I can see a future Aziz Choudry using such 
provisions to halt wire-taps and such-like, because they have been left so 
broad it is not only legitimate but compulsory to make such use of them.

And I would be delighted to hear about such a case!

Wesley Parish
>
> > > > What to CLUGers think? Does anyone have pointers to mailing lists /
> > > > groups in NZ keeping an eye on changes to copyright law?
>
> As has been suggested, NZOSS is a good place for this, and IIRC there is
> also an Open Politics list (not about software) somewhere - check the
> NZOSS archives for a mention.
>
> -jim

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Wesley Parish
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