Hugo, the implication from your suggestion, "Get them a Mac" is that a) I have lots of money (false)
b) Mac is superior in many ways to linux What are you doing on the clug group? Derek. On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Hugo Vincent wrote: > Get them a Mac. > > > On 29/11/2004, at 12:09 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: > > > Hi, > > For the sake of the discussion, I will use the phrase, "my parents". > > In fact, I am referring to a potential new linux user, who maybe > > any age. The reason I ask, is that I have had this conversation with > > many people, and wondered what the consensus is. > > > > My parents have a win 95 machine, that is loaded down with avg etc etc, > > and cannot send email. > > > > what do you think would best suit my parents. > > semi computer literate. > > long term exposure to windows 95 > > notion of folders/directories is a bit vague > > > > they need a)email, b)webbrowsing, c)office. " > > > > Here is the sticky bit: > > However, given that > > a) they are in Invercargill > > b) cannot be bothered with joining a *lug group > > c) expect to have something that "just" works. > > > > > > Let me explain the requirements. > > They are in Invercargill, so a support trip is not easy. For that > > matter, > > they could be in Christchurch, but I cannot see them for the next 4 > > days. > > So, the actual amount of my support required better be low low. > > > > The are not going to joing *lug group to get help. No way are they > > going > > to download 10-100 messages a day, filter out the non useful answers > > etc. > > yes, filters "work", but they cannot be bothered with installing/using > > them. > > Worse, some of the answers are intensely time consuming. > > Video problems? Ah, go read www.xfree86.org, or, search google > > > > When you buy an appliance from the store, you take it home, plug it in, > > and it just works. Breadmakers, video recorders, cars take minimal > > effort > > to get going. > > Why is the same not true of computers? > > > > > > ================================== > > In an offline discussion, Nick made the comment:: > > > > yes its annoying that they haven't made a computer that just works yet. > > > > certainly microsoft is not the answer for them, given this post i read > > this morning on nzlug. > > > > http://www.linux.net.nz/lists/NZLUG/2004/11/0394.html > > > > Its that damn flexibilty thing, it implies complication. > > > > I wiuld try ubuntu, it gives them a straight up sensible defaults for > > browsing (firefox) , email (evolution) and it has OOo. They do not > > need > > to choose between konqueror, mozilla and firefox, nor between kmail, > > evo > > and mutt, nor between abiword, lyx and OOo. > > > > Its the sort of thing that would require a newer computer if they > > bought > > their last one with w95. Its also the sort of thing that you'd want to > > spend the weekend with them installing and explaining, but they should > > be able to grok firefox, evolution and OOo if they have used the MS > > fare. > > > > Are guis ever going to change? apart from getting prettier, the point. > > click, drag concept has been pretty constant for a while now..... > > > > ============================= > > Derek. > > > > -- > > Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on > > linux for email > > IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus > > apparently from me, it has > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] forged the e-mail > > headers on someone else's machine > > ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me > > when (apparently) receiving a > > Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from > > me...... > > > > > -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when (apparently) receiving a Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me......
