On Thu 15 Feb 2007 00:46:01 NZDT +1300, Rik Tindall wrote:

> Seems to me, if you really want to teach GNU/Linux,

Then I would teach how to use software, and Linux software that would
be. Later on I would mention the open source model but not excessively.
In any case I would make sure not to include political cr*p like the
GNU/ in front of Linux and other likewise things. If you like to do
that, please open your own GNU/Politico website, mailing list and
teaching classes.

> then you start with 
> BSD - in the classroom, that is.

Please let me know beforehand, so I get time enough to warn all my
acquaintances not to bother.

New people are either interested in server/admin type stuff, in which
case they have a clue already, or they are desktop users, in which case
BSD is useless.

Remind yourself Rik that Billy got hugely big while unix vendors were
peddling user-unfriendly stuff and peeing against each other. Linux/BSD
peeing contests are just repeating the same mistake and are not
productive. To make it plain, I'm not interested. A talk on what BSD
does for me on the desktop is not of much use either as far as I can
see, because I see already that all my applications which I need to get
semi-professsional work done on Linux aren't on BSD which ticks off BSD
for the bin at that point, and I don't think you'd be the right
presenter for that Rik because I'd want to see applications, not
politics. You've made clear now that you're only interested in politics.
I am not, and I don't think many others here are either. End of story
from me.

I am looking forward to the upcoming presentation on BSD at the root
user level, because it helps me admin a BSD box on the server level. It
would be stellarly useful if it was aimed at users who can already run a
Linux command line.

Volker

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