to terminate the usual slide into ignorant tangents..
(where a social group of no specific or enduring purpose has confused
itself into a technical, university-backed community)..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(Quoting Volker, to whom my reply is under consideration / later):
On Thu 15 Feb 2007 00:46:01 NZDT +1300, Rik Tindall wrote:
Seems to me, if you really want to teach GNU/Linux,
Remind yourself Rik that Billy got hugely big while unix vendors were
peddling user-unfriendly stuff and peeing against each other. Linux/BSD
peeing contests are just repeating the same mistake and are not
productive. To make it plain, I'm not interested.
It is you that has just wet yourself, mate.
Widen your vision. No stones had been cast, until now.
A talk on what BSD
does for me on the desktop is not of much use either as far as I can
see, because I see already that all my applications which I need to get
semi-professsional work done on Linux aren't on BSD which ticks off BSD
for the bin at that point,
Just because BSD is ticked off the list for you right now doesn't mean it
is an uninteresting topic, nor does it mean that BSD is not suitable on
the desktop for others.
Correct.
<snip>
You do have to be concerned about the difference between the gnu tools
found on linux and some of the tools found on BSD. As a small example
ls /etc/* -l
works on linux, but the BSD ls insists that the -l switch comes before the
parameter.
This is a winning argument for not teaching BSD/GNU this way around, for
the degree of unlearning (multi-skilling?) it may invoke.
I am not sure why Rik said he would prefer to teach BSD than linux, given
his bent towards GNU and the GPL.
Because he didn't. He said that the proper learning context for
GNU/Linux was the what, whys & failings of BSD - the latter of which
there are increasingly few, for learning upon.
I certainly agree with your comments about not creating divides in the
*nix world, which only allows the monopolists room to grow at our expense..
Long-term, this seems to require the logical annihilation of the Unix
posers (oops. that is, gurus) hiding behind a wet, limp, malformed and
ecologically-threatened duck.
Quack!
;-)
--
Rik
