The problem here is that you assume that when people get bounced mail, they understand why, and attempt to take corrective action. Most people haven't the foggiest clue what a bounced email means, and will most likely just delete it and move on. Punishing the innocent isn't going to win a spam war. It just puts them in the middle as you throw grenades at the spammers on the other side.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote: > Not exactly, at least thats not how I see it. If enough users of an ISP or > email suppliers complain they are blocked by one, big deal, blocked by dozens, > then it begins to matter and the ISP's must take notice. We as an admin > community have done nothing to stop the spam problem. Oh, some filteer, most > have a TOS that they stick to but thats it. Hell, when it gets bad enough that > congress looks into it you know that congress will shit on you with their > solution. If it a drastic enough problem then we should deal with it ourselves. > I know that blocking innocent users is not with the spirit of the Internet but > any solution congress comes up with will be worse and we can remove blocks > easily with a few edits. No so with whatever solution congress comes up with, > you wont just edit that away. > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:33:22 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote the following > Re: Re: spam issues > > >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote: > >> I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do? > >> I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill > >> spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and > >blocked> them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail them > >and> complained heavily, it stopped. Until this week. Now comcast is blocked. > >> When I say blocked I dont mean filtered I mean blocked from all my domains > >and> clients mail servers. FSCK to domains with a lax attitude about spam, let > >them> eat bounces. > > > >what is that solving? spam preys on the weakest link & lowest common > >denominator. blocking off entire netblocks is just cutting off your nose > >to spite your face. > > > >-- > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Linux-users mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > _______________________________________________ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
