What I like about Signal, is I can give a “username” instead of an email or 
phone number.  As for end to end encryption and auto delete, one can configure 
WhatsApp to cover everything.  WhatsApp is used everywhere and still my goto.

T.

From: David Nikkel <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Nikkel via linux
Sent: January 28, 2026 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [linux] Using de-googled android and Linux mobile devices

Attention : courriel externe | external email
Hi Lucas,

You don't mention needing/wanting a chat app but that's the app I've recently 
moved away from Google.  My family and I were big users of Google Chat, really 
our main way of communicating.  We've moved to Signal and it's been working 
great so far.  The native app for Linux makes it very handy for Linux users.

For Linux focused phones, you might want to review this 
article<https://itsfoss.com/linux-phones/> from 
itsfoss.com<http://itsfoss.com/>.

Dave

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 1:14 PM Lucas Fryzek via linux 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello All,

I'm curious if anyone in the OCLUG has tried using de-googled android
or linux based phone OS like PMOS? How has your experience been?

I'm interested in switching especially with the current political
climate to try and use tech that doesn't depend on US companies.

I've been doing a test to try and use f-droid for most of my apps on my
pixel (haven't fully migrated to a fully de-googled ROM), but my
experience trying to use FOSS apps that don't depend on google servers:

 * E-mail
    - K9 mail works great for anything I need
 * Web
    - I've been using firefox on android forever and fennec in fdroid
      works great, you can use unified push for notifications as well so
      you don't even depend on google's notification serers
 * Files, notes, and pictures
    - I've setup nextcloud on my personal server and it works okay for
      file storage.
    - Image sync is not as great. All my images get auto uploaded but
      viewing them on the server can be quite laggy. I've heard better
      things about immich for images but I really like the nextcloud
      ecosystem besides these problems
    - Quilpad is a really great notes app, and can use nextcloud/webdav
      for sync. Supports things like markdown formatting as well
 * Contacts & Calendar
    - With nextcloud I have caldav and carddav for calendar in contacts
      and I can use them on Android using DAVx5. I'm still using the
      default calendar and contacts app on my pixel phone but the data is
      coming from my server
 * Passwords
    - I have a Keepass password DB I keep synced between devices using
      nextcloud and then I use KeepassDX on android to access it. Works
      great for me
 * Authenticator
    - I use Aegis for TOTP, and it works great
 * Notifications
    - I have unified push setup with Nextpush which can use a nextcloud
      server as a Webpush endpoint. This works great for any apps that
      support unified push, and allows you to have push notifications
      without depending on google's Firebase cloud messaging platform.
    - There are other unified push distributors that I tried like ntfy.sh
      & sunup that also work, but like I mentioned before I'm a bit sucked
      into the nextcloud ecosystem.
 * Maps
    - This is the biggest pain point. OSMAnd I've found really annoying to
      use. Co-maps/Organic maps are nice to use but don't support public
      transit. I recently found out about the e-foundation Cardinal map
      app which works alright. Navigation for driving isn't as good as co-
      maps/organic maps but it does support public transit through
      transitous which has OC transpo data.
    - There is also Bimba, a dedicated public transit app that can use
      transitous for public transit routing. It works okay, but I find the
      UI a bit off putting.

I'm curious about other people's experience, have you been able to use
a de-googled phone? I'm especially interested if anyone is running post
market os or some other linux phone. What device do you use, how's the
experience for receiving calls, get notifications, battery life, etc.

I'm interested in buying a device that has decent linux support to try
out a dedicated linux phone device. So if others have experience I'm
keen to here it.

Thanks & Regards,
Lucas

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