On Monday 29 December 2008 23:03, Shamit Verma wrote:
> On 12/29/08, Kenneth Gonsalves <[email protected]> wrote:
> > what exactly do you suggest we learn from M$?
>
> Innovative and integrated User experience. As a developer, I still
> have not come across development environment + documentation
> comparable to MSDN + Visual Studio.
>
> I work on a C++ product that works on few platforms (Solaris,
> Win32/64, Linux). I keep evaluating Linux dev + debug tools every
> few years and keep coming back to Windows for development. And most
> of GNU command line tools work on Windows with Cygwin (to integrate
> build process with VS).

Strange we have discarded all our closed coding tools for micon 
development and are a lot happier. fte and a few scripts does 
everything that 600 Mb of trash did. Not to menton other stuff like 
cvs and a quantum jump in productivity.

>
> Few things that Linux has innovated :
>
> 1. IPTABLES

filtering network packets is old hat

> 2. RaiserFS

Journaling fs were present much before reiser fs

> 3. Live CD

this one is innovative afaik. as are os on usb, os on flash os on 
microsd. However dos on eprom (card) existed proly before linus wrote 
code on a pc. Dos on a isa card with a few dozen eproms and some sram 
existed in 1985. The card was by Cromemco and a small firm in texas 
burned dos  on it and sold the stuff.

> Can anyone think of other things that Linux introduced and were not
> already present in other Unix environments.

Most stuff in foss are small increments in a very large number of 
places. That is what contributes to progress. The giant leap for 
mankind usually lands you in a ditch.
Infact most so called "Innovations" in the closed software world are 
nothing but pack and paint self glorification jobs. The technical 
retards that make up the press gaga on the PR while getting sozzled 
at one of the 5 star joints. Next day morn general joe wakes up to 
innovation and pays a packet for something available for free in the 
foss world.

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JTD
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