Thanks Charles, that is a good description (delicate balance between stability and new features) I agree.
I guess the question I'm asking is: everyone is putting down Ubuntu as a server distro. Why? I'm looking for hard/concrete examples why it is not recommended but Debian is? So far I have seen no actual technical reason, nor any arguments made about a feature of the ubuntu server being unreliable or unstable or anything, which leads me to believe that people are skeptical of it because it is considered "new" or "unproven" compared to Debian or CentOS, which is a mindset thing on the part of the user in my opinion. Part of why I am raising the question is because I am recommending a supported customer to move away from CentOS, and I am evaluating whether to recommend Ubuntu or Debian (purely web serving, no other apps). So I'm wanting to see some cold hard facts. (And as a disclaimer: I'm definitely still in the evaluation phase, as I've yet to even install the Ubuntu Server image so I'm a complete newbie with it) DK On 6/3/2010, "char...@knownelement.com" <char...@knownelement.com> wrote: >I use ubuntu/debian for all my linux systems. Large swaths of developers are >using it. In my opinion its the distro family to use. It strikes a delicate >balance between stability and new features. > >You could always run the centos kernel on it. I find the centos kernel to be >slightly more stable. > >Fedora would be good if you want bleeding edge. I will probably use that for >some network related r&d I'm doing. I need latest kernel and userland. > >Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >-----Original Message----- >From: "David Kaiser" <dkai...@cdk.com> >Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:36:26 >To: SoCal LUG Users List<linuxusers@socallinux.org> >Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Trying to get focused on the PHP programming but > need help with the following > >Also, I'd say that "production" means different things to different >people. Joe's not going to be adding tons of users and maintaining >their e-mail and home directories, etc. he's going to be developing >and testing a PHP app. I'd say whatever gets his PHP environment >installed while reaching some intersection of "easy to install" and >"secure/reliable enough for me" is what he's looking for. CentOS >fails all of the "easy to install" tests, in my opinion. > > >On 6/3/2010, "David Kaiser" <dkai...@cdk.com> wrote: > >>Chris, >> >>I doubt you have a logical reason for this argument, but perhaps you can >>enlighten us. >> >>For Joe's sake, he's using Ubuntu already. You'd really recommend >>Centos, with it's 3 year old packages and all before you'd recommend >>Ubuntu? >> >>There has to be a good reason for that... I'm curious. >> >> >>On 6/3/2010, "Chris Penn" <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Debian is my first choice, however, I would go for Centos before >>>Ubuntu for a web server in production. >>> >>>Chris... >>> >>>On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I would just go with Ubuntu Server 10.04. I think CentOS 5.5 is still using >>>> a 3 year old version of php, unless you use the -testing repo. Even Debian >>>> would be a good choice. >>>> There isn't really a need to build from source, unless your running Gentoo >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> -- Trevor Benedict >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> LinuxUsers mailing list >>>> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >>>> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>"As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to >>>be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." >>> -Roger Penrose >>>_______________________________________________ >>>LinuxUsers mailing list >>>LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >>>http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >>_______________________________________________ >>LinuxUsers mailing list >>LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >>http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >_______________________________________________ >LinuxUsers mailing list >LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >_______________________________________________ >LinuxUsers mailing list >LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
