On Jun 4, 2010, at 2:53 AM, Jeff Lasman wrote:

> On Friday 04 June 2010 01:11:27 am Trevor Benedict wrote:
> 
>> One of my main beefs with binary server distro's is how out of date they
>> are.
>> CentOS 5.5, brand new:
>> 
>> php 5.1.6 released: 24 Aug 2006
>> mysql 5.0.7 released: 28 January 2009
>> apache 2.2.3 released: 28 July 2006*
>> 
>> *There is a point of being stable, and then there is just out... of...
>> date...*
> 
> I neglected to point out in my most recently preceding post, but we use a 
> proprietary system built for our control panel to keep our entire hosting 
> stack updated from source. It allows us to decide on the versions of 
> everything we want to use.

<sarcasm> OMG proprietary!!! the horror, the unspeakable horror! </sarcasm>

In all seriousness though I would be interested to know what you use. Keeping 
up to date but maintaining "vendor" certification is really hard and supporting 
20 machines by hand is painful but 600+ requires a different approach/scale and 
you can not just keep throwing more system administrators at it (unless you 
like constantly being in a hiring/training loop).

The unfortunate issue is certification of OS's that software / governments 
demand is a expensive process so while these versions are old they almost 
always have any security patch back ported since the certification body doesn't 
care about patches they require the versions to be the same across the 
"certified" platform. If you run RHEL or CentOS you can just like in debian and 
other distro's utilize the upstream and up to date RPM's that are available 
(name escapes me right now).

- Brian
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