On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 04:00:18 pm Chris Penn wrote: > I have no reason to believe you are bad with Linux. I suspect many of your > Desktop issues are self inflicted. After reading a few of your past KDE > complaints, it seems you demand Desktop applications to work exactly the > way you envision them to work.
I expect them to work consistently. For example, a few days ago, after I added some security fixes (note they're now completely broken and I can no longer do security fixes) KAlarm now, when I click to open a management window (which I do often, to move up the alarm time) instead of putting it on top of the kalarm I'm editing, it puts it in a random screen location. That's not a fix; it's a break. Other problems (including with KMail continue. Which simply proves the point of this thread's subject. But to move on... > Correct me if I am wrong but I recall long > threads about KAlarm and other devilish KDE contraptions. If KDE was the > only choice for Linux I would take a page out of Sokolov's book and kill > myself; the Linux Desktop would be dead, not dying, dead. You are right. But if you're old enough you may remember when KDE was considered to be the best choice for people moving from Windows, because it was Windows-like. In fact, way back when, when our company used both Linux and Windows, that's why I chose it. The KDE failures simply prove the point of this thread's subject. > I am sure > others have suggested this, but just in case, try Gnome. Many of your KDE > apps will continue to work and now there is a Gnome 3.0. I probably will try Gnome as packaged by Mint. I've tried it from a live cd, and it will probably work for me. It's a lot of work to change. And change is coming to Gnome, too. One thing Windows has done since 1995 is know how to update a desktop without totally changing everyone's experience, and Linux not doing that (I know, I'm using the term Linux very generically and I shouldn't, but we'd better if we expect to offer a good desktop experience for the masses) if we want to build our acceptance to the desktop. > I would've figured you for a FluxBox user but anything is better than KDE, IMO. I suppose I come across as a geek, but first and foremost I'm a tool user. At one time KDE gave me windows-like tools which our geographically-diverse staff needed; we don't have everyone in the same location so we can't do one or two days of intensive staff training on a new desktop paradigm. Other staff members have moved back to Windows; I couldn't say no. Perhaps it's time to end the thread, but if not, then certainly responses which simply prove that "The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop" do not make good rebuttals. I'm probably going to end my participation in the thread; maybe it'll die a quick death. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman Post Office Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only Phone +1 909 266-9209, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"; _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
