On Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:44:16 am Ragi Burhum wrote: > You mentioned Jeff. He definitely an expert Linux user and has been using > computers for longer than some of us have been alive (I mean it as a > complement by the way).
Taken as such; heck I've probably been using Unix since longer than some of us have been alive. > And yet, when he is looking for something as simple > as a good e-mail client (with a GUI - like normal humans use), he runs into > problems. Let me search for email on apt: > > ubuntu@ip-10-123-129-144:~$ apt-cache search email |wc -l > 347 > ubuntu@ip-10-123-129-144: > > 347 options. Some jewels like "echolot - Pinger for anonymous remailers > such as Mixmaster" or "chiark-scripts - chiark system administration > scripts". Do I use apt? Hell yes! All the time. But for a Linux *Desktop* > experience this is useless. Synaptic returns the same stuff, except that > it is in a GUI - which once again is not good enough for desktop > experience. Contrast that with the changes that are happening on Software > Center, where there are things like ratings. Yes, those stupid stars will > actually matter - because humans like to rate things they either *really > love* or *really hate*. A very basic crowdsourcing model that allows me to > try the packages in a certain order before having to become an expert in > Linux e-mail clients. And features. I'd love to find a different MUA (client) besides KMail that uses Maildir. While I certainly know who designed Maildir, and his reputation for thinking outside the RFCs, I simply believe that with Maildir he got it right. (Dan Bernstein, by the way; the guy also responsible for qmail, which I hate about as much as I love Maildir.) > Some of us, just want the stupid GUI and compiler and e-mail client and > chat client and whatever else to *just work* so we can go out and code > useful stuff that will help people get their things done. That's almost exactly me; my desktop computer needs to just work so I can just work on the servers I'm paid to maintain, and the ones I need to maintain so I can host my customers. I really don't care about Software Center vs Synaptic; I just don't like change which requires relearning. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman Post Office Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only Phone +1 909 266-9209, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"; _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
