On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:24 AM, DarkRose<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 4, 3:56 am, Chris Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Kenneth Miller >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > oh cool, so you weren't attacking me! haha and the joke wasn't bad. do you >> > watch star trek? >> >> I watched the older series. I haven't seen the new movie yet, and I'm >> uncertain whether I want to. Star Trek used to be sci-fi, and now >> they're turning it into just another action thriller... not quite my >> style. >> >> > and are you saying that you support linux as well? >> >> Absolutely. My webserver runs Linux. Linux got me through high >> school. I learned most of my Java-fu on Linux with Eclipse. >> >> > cool man. haha sheesh. i feel a little sheepish. I'd like to be your >> > little >> > buddie over the internet if you like. sounds like we would get along great, >> > i'm a dork too. haha. a's in calc ap bc class all the way. but that doesn't >> > mean i'm a wimp. or that i'm not cool. haha. i'll be cool with you. and >> > maybe one day things will develop... can you imagine a business partner >> > willing to help you a lot that you met years ago ovet the internet with >> > google? >> > i plan to go to a full 8 years of college for computer science. i want to >> > get into something serious and sophisticated whatever it is. being devoted >> > to something like that is my entire aim. i want to be able to write my >> > entire programs on my own some day. >> >> The sheer scale and scope of an entire program makes it almost >> requisite that you are part of a team. Going solo as long as I have, >> this is what I have learned. The biggest project I ever pulled off >> solo was my very own wiki engine: >> >> http://www.fsdev.net/projects/show/firewikihttp://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp308/theDigitalProphet/FireWiki/?... >> >> Well, I kind of also wrote my own wiki markup language, too... >> >> http://www.fsdev.net/projects/show/fscode >> >> > and i like your idea of using the mac for programming rather than fight >> > with >> > linux all the time. seems i do a little of that every time they release and >> > upgrade or something... idk. i'm managing to get around it more and more >> >> If I stuck with Linux all the time I'm positive I'd be able to replace >> all my experience and know-how with a series of shell scripts stuck in >> cron. Well, that's what happened to my webserver! MySQL, Apache, >> Ruby on Rails, all glued together with bash and cron. >> >> Every day it runs is a gift from God, mark my words! Some apps were >> never designed to fit into a 326mb RAM postage stamp of a server, but >> by gosh I've done it! >> >> >> >> >> >> > anyway, yea there actually an illegal release of mac that can be attained >> > no >> > charge. dubbed hackintosh. they wacked it to make it possible.... but i >> > don't think that they implanted vulnerabilities within it to gain control >> > though... they have their own website dedicated to it, or at least all the >> > legal parts that they can keep posted haha >> >> > and I love what you said about windows, too... if only there were some way >> > to pin microsucks for everything they've done... but the world that doesn't >> > include serious computer users that an operating system shouldn't be as >> > horrible as microsoft. they've grown accustomed to it... you're statements >> > do certainly explain how microsoft managed to cram their junk in the face >> > of >> > like... the entire world. This would never have happened if these machines >> > didn't come preloaded with their crap. and forget what i said about every >> > os >> > getting their fair share, mac and linux are worth a damn and windows isn't. >> > windows is a must today simply because of all the software that has been >> > funded hugely and has... muscle i guess. it's the software on it that makes >> > it a must. like games, corporate applications... junk other people built >> > thinking they had to put it on windows. >> >> Yes, it has everything to do with inertia. There's just so much mass >> behind the Windows train that it's going to take a lot to stop it. >> >> > you know what i was saying to my future professor, it would really suck if >> > in 20 years we were contracdicted by a surge of viruses and newfound >> > vulnerabilities for mac and linux. I wonder if they are as really secure as >> > we say they are or if they just miss the spotlight because windows has the >> > popularity... but then again, i wonder if windows purposely has people >> > paying for security software by simply punching holes in their system. see, >> > i have thoughts like this going on in my head too. >> >> Windows didn't have file permissions until the NT kernel. Windows >> didn't have a multi-user environment until they bolted it on to >> Windows 2000 Professional. Windows didn't have file access >> restriction checking until Windows XP, but then they turned it off >> because it caused all these security popups! \o/ >> >> Then Windows got completely raped by zounds of viruses. The Russian >> mob invented whole new ways of exploiting Microsoft Windows XP. They >> created adware, spyware, malware, rootkits, and finally and most >> insidious they created little bots that grid together to send out >> masses of spam and relay spyware info to command and control servers. >> >> Oopsie. Nevermind the tens-of-billion dollars in damages to private >> individuals getting their identity stolen and large corporations. >> We'll just create a new vision of the future! Let's call it Vista! >> Vista is slow and annoys users with access restrictions, cancel or >> allow? >> >> Vista is more resistant to most forms of attack, however... it has >> full file-based access restriction. Gee whiz, UNIX has had this since >> 1978! >> >> They had to separate the user accounts, creating one account for the >> system and one account for the users. Gee whiz, UNIX has done this >> since its invention! >> >> Vista has support to run on "two, maybe four" processors according to >> the Vista product manager. UNIX has been multithreading across >> multiple chips (Symmetric Multiprocessing, or SMP) since long before I >> was born. When Cray supercomputers needs to put an OS on a cluster >> with 20,000+ chips, what do they use? Red Hat Linux (yes, they have >> poor choice in distros, but I suppose that even RH would run well on a >> Cray). >> >> Windows is only recently 64-bit. UNIX has been switching around the >> number of bits it works with for an incredibly long time. Heck, >> Windows itself is a 32-bit hack on a 16-bit GUI, written for an 8-bit >> OS that originally ran on a PC with a 4-bit system bus, made by a >> 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. >> >> Window's task scheduler (the logic that decides which processes get to >> run on the CPU and when) runs like a Government agency. Linux has a >> zero-tick, interrupting scheduler (CFS) which quite frankly alone >> makes Windows look like it doesn't have much of a right to live. >> >> The NTFS filesystem fragments. In an age when I don't have to >> defragment HFS+ (Mac) or ext3/ext4 (Linux). What gives? >> >> The Windows XP defragmenter sucks. >> >> The Windows Vista defragmenter sucks worse by several orders of magnitude. >> >> Can you hot-swap CPUs in Windows? Nope. Linux? Sure. >> >> 3D hardware 3d-discreet graphics acceleration for the desktop. Apple >> had it since Mac OS X 10.0. Linux had it before Vista went beta. >> >> Linux is technologically superior to Windows in every category. 'Nuff said. >> >> -- >> Registered Linux Addict #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman| John >> 3:16!http://www.fsdev.net/|http://www.fsdev.net/~cmiller- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Wow. I'm a Windows user that's been trying to tinker with Linux and > learn to use it a bit, but after this thread, I'm done. I'm afraid > I'll pick up the "Everything is better than Microsoft attitude...", > one of the same reasons I won't use a Mac (along with price, and I > prefer total hardware customization to build my own, but Mac fanboys > are the worst). > Live and let live, use what you want, I'll stick with my (now) Windows > 7, be happy, and not mess with anything else, attitude can be > contagious. > Later all.
Notice how I listed only technological reasons. If you need to run Microsoft Office for a business requirement for whatever reason, all the technological wonder of Linux isn't worth a hill of beans - it just won't run that program reliably. Linux is [technologically] superior, but I'm not saying it's The Only Way To Do It (TM). -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman | John 3:16! http://www.fsdev.net/ | http://www.fsdev.net/~cmiller Steven Wright - "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/steven_wright.html --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
