yea hey, we just don't like windows for certain reasons. this isn't "the only way to do it" attitude. there were multiple times where i iterated this in previous threads. I acknowledged that windows had significant programs that linux will probably never have. also, there's not a single *really*good game for linux like halo or anything else. the only thing you can do to get those kind of games for linux is get cedega and that doesn't even support everything.
does this kind of fight just hover over me or is it always this way when operating systems are described? On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Chris Miller <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:24 AM, DarkRose<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 4, 3:56 am, Chris Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Kenneth Miller > >> > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > oh cool, so you weren't attacking me! haha and the joke wasn't bad. do > you > >> > watch star trek? > >> > >> I watched the older series. I haven't seen the new movie yet, and I'm > >> uncertain whether I want to. Star Trek used to be sci-fi, and now > >> they're turning it into just another action thriller... not quite my > >> style. > >> > >> > and are you saying that you support linux as well? > >> > >> Absolutely. My webserver runs Linux. Linux got me through high > >> school. I learned most of my Java-fu on Linux with Eclipse. > >> > >> > cool man. haha sheesh. i feel a little sheepish. I'd like to be your > little > >> > buddie over the internet if you like. sounds like we would get along > great, > >> > i'm a dork too. haha. a's in calc ap bc class all the way. but that > doesn't > >> > mean i'm a wimp. or that i'm not cool. haha. i'll be cool with you. > and > >> > maybe one day things will develop... can you imagine a business > partner > >> > willing to help you a lot that you met years ago ovet the internet > with > >> > google? > >> > i plan to go to a full 8 years of college for computer science. i want > to > >> > get into something serious and sophisticated whatever it is. being > devoted > >> > to something like that is my entire aim. i want to be able to write my > >> > entire programs on my own some day. > >> > >> The sheer scale and scope of an entire program makes it almost > >> requisite that you are part of a team. Going solo as long as I have, > >> this is what I have learned. The biggest project I ever pulled off > >> solo was my very own wiki engine: > >> > >> > http://www.fsdev.net/projects/show/firewikihttp://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp308/theDigitalProphet/FireWiki/?. > .. > >> > >> Well, I kind of also wrote my own wiki markup language, too... > >> > >> http://www.fsdev.net/projects/show/fscode > >> > >> > and i like your idea of using the mac for programming rather than > fight with > >> > linux all the time. seems i do a little of that every time they > release and > >> > upgrade or something... idk. i'm managing to get around it more and > more > >> > >> If I stuck with Linux all the time I'm positive I'd be able to replace > >> all my experience and know-how with a series of shell scripts stuck in > >> cron. Well, that's what happened to my webserver! MySQL, Apache, > >> Ruby on Rails, all glued together with bash and cron. > >> > >> Every day it runs is a gift from God, mark my words! Some apps were > >> never designed to fit into a 326mb RAM postage stamp of a server, but > >> by gosh I've done it! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > anyway, yea there actually an illegal release of mac that can be > attained no > >> > charge. dubbed hackintosh. they wacked it to make it possible.... but > i > >> > don't think that they implanted vulnerabilities within it to gain > control > >> > though... they have their own website dedicated to it, or at least all > the > >> > legal parts that they can keep posted haha > >> > >> > and I love what you said about windows, too... if only there were some > way > >> > to pin microsucks for everything they've done... but the world that > doesn't > >> > include serious computer users that an operating system shouldn't be > as > >> > horrible as microsoft. they've grown accustomed to it... you're > statements > >> > do certainly explain how microsoft managed to cram their junk in the > face of > >> > like... the entire world. This would never have happened if these > machines > >> > didn't come preloaded with their crap. and forget what i said about > every os > >> > getting their fair share, mac and linux are worth a damn and windows > isn't. > >> > windows is a must today simply because of all the software that has > been > >> > funded hugely and has... muscle i guess. it's the software on it that > makes > >> > it a must. like games, corporate applications... junk other people > built > >> > thinking they had to put it on windows. > >> > >> Yes, it has everything to do with inertia. There's just so much mass > >> behind the Windows train that it's going to take a lot to stop it. > >> > >> > you know what i was saying to my future professor, it would really > suck if > >> > in 20 years we were contracdicted by a surge of viruses and newfound > >> > vulnerabilities for mac and linux. I wonder if they are as really > secure as > >> > we say they are or if they just miss the spotlight because windows has > the > >> > popularity... but then again, i wonder if windows purposely has > people > >> > paying for security software by simply punching holes in their system. > see, > >> > i have thoughts like this going on in my head too. > >> > >> Windows didn't have file permissions until the NT kernel. Windows > >> didn't have a multi-user environment until they bolted it on to > >> Windows 2000 Professional. Windows didn't have file access > >> restriction checking until Windows XP, but then they turned it off > >> because it caused all these security popups! \o/ > >> > >> Then Windows got completely raped by zounds of viruses. The Russian > >> mob invented whole new ways of exploiting Microsoft Windows XP. They > >> created adware, spyware, malware, rootkits, and finally and most > >> insidious they created little bots that grid together to send out > >> masses of spam and relay spyware info to command and control servers. > >> > >> Oopsie. Nevermind the tens-of-billion dollars in damages to private > >> individuals getting their identity stolen and large corporations. > >> We'll just create a new vision of the future! Let's call it Vista! > >> Vista is slow and annoys users with access restrictions, cancel or > >> allow? > >> > >> Vista is more resistant to most forms of attack, however... it has > >> full file-based access restriction. Gee whiz, UNIX has had this since > >> 1978! > >> > >> They had to separate the user accounts, creating one account for the > >> system and one account for the users. Gee whiz, UNIX has done this > >> since its invention! > >> > >> Vista has support to run on "two, maybe four" processors according to > >> the Vista product manager. UNIX has been multithreading across > >> multiple chips (Symmetric Multiprocessing, or SMP) since long before I > >> was born. When Cray supercomputers needs to put an OS on a cluster > >> with 20,000+ chips, what do they use? Red Hat Linux (yes, they have > >> poor choice in distros, but I suppose that even RH would run well on a > >> Cray). > >> > >> Windows is only recently 64-bit. UNIX has been switching around the > >> number of bits it works with for an incredibly long time. Heck, > >> Windows itself is a 32-bit hack on a 16-bit GUI, written for an 8-bit > >> OS that originally ran on a PC with a 4-bit system bus, made by a > >> 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. > >> > >> Window's task scheduler (the logic that decides which processes get to > >> run on the CPU and when) runs like a Government agency. Linux has a > >> zero-tick, interrupting scheduler (CFS) which quite frankly alone > >> makes Windows look like it doesn't have much of a right to live. > >> > >> The NTFS filesystem fragments. In an age when I don't have to > >> defragment HFS+ (Mac) or ext3/ext4 (Linux). What gives? > >> > >> The Windows XP defragmenter sucks. > >> > >> The Windows Vista defragmenter sucks worse by several orders of > magnitude. > >> > >> Can you hot-swap CPUs in Windows? Nope. Linux? Sure. > >> > >> 3D hardware 3d-discreet graphics acceleration for the desktop. Apple > >> had it since Mac OS X 10.0. Linux had it before Vista went beta. > >> > >> Linux is technologically superior to Windows in every category. 'Nuff > said. > >> > >> -- > >> Registered Linux Addict > >> #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman|<http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman%7C>John > >> 3:16! > http://www.fsdev.net/|http://www.fsdev.net/~cmiller-<http://www.fsdev.net/%7Chttp://www.fsdev.net/%7Ecmiller->Hide > quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > Wow. I'm a Windows user that's been trying to tinker with Linux and > > learn to use it a bit, but after this thread, I'm done. I'm afraid > > I'll pick up the "Everything is better than Microsoft attitude...", > > one of the same reasons I won't use a Mac (along with price, and I > > prefer total hardware customization to build my own, but Mac fanboys > > are the worst). > > Live and let live, use what you want, I'll stick with my (now) Windows > > 7, be happy, and not mess with anything else, attitude can be > > contagious. > > Later all. > > Notice how I listed only technological reasons. If you need to run > Microsoft Office for a business requirement for whatever reason, all > the technological wonder of Linux isn't worth a hill of beans - it > just won't run that program reliably. > > Linux is [technologically] superior, but I'm not saying it's The Only > Way To Do It (TM). > > -- > Registered Linux Addict #431495 > http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman | John 3:16! > http://www.fsdev.net/ | > http://www.fsdev.net/~cmiller<http://www.fsdev.net/%7Ecmiller> > Steven Wright - "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to > paint it." - > http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/steven_wright.html > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. 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