I forgot to add.
http://www.apnic.net/services/apply-for-resources/kickstart-your-ipv6
It may be: "If you already have an asn, just click here to start using
LISP" (or something like that):
http://your-rir.net/services/getyoureid
Regards,
as
On 04/03/2013 15:54, Arturo Servin wrote:
>
>
> On 04/03/2013 09:40, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Arturo Servin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Possibly, but, would it be very different than when RIRs started
>>> allocating IPv6?
>>
>> It was free to members who already had IPv4. That is an important
>> distinction.
>
> Nop, at least in the one that I know it was free as the air.
>
> Not sure about the others.
>
>>
>> If the "LISP Experiment" only succeeds in issuing EID blocks to
>> organizations that already have their own IP blocks and are already
>> announcing to the DFZ, then IMO, it will not have been very
>> successful.
>>
>> Why do you suppose I mention godaddy.com in my post? If you want a
>> domain name, you can buy one. That's probably not a good way to issue
>> IP addresses. On the other hand, if you want a "green browser-bar SSL
>> certificate" they have additional identity and authority verification
>> hoops for you to jump through. These steps are quite streamlined and
>> are performed efficiently by SSL certificate authorities.
>>
>> My ideal world would allow someone to go get a "very small" block with
>> about the same hoops as a $10/year dot-com registration, hopefully at
>> a similar cost, and including a mapping service for xTRs to be able to
>> find your EID-to-RLOC mapping. The MS relationship may be a tool for
>> reduction of abusive registrations that will invariably happen if the
>> bar to getting EID space is set very low.
>>
>> A larger organization might jump through the extra steps and cost
>> required to get the green SSL certificate. Then they can have more
>> address space, choose their own MS (maybe themself), and gain the
>> capability to sub-divide their allocation.
>>
>> LISP is a pet project. Personally, it makes me want to scream every
>> time someone talks to me about how great LISP is, or will be in the
>> future. If you folks want it to grow out of the pet project stage
>> anytime soon, then you should stop treating it like a pet project and
>> start thinking about how to make it scale up effectively -- not just
>> in technical terms (like negative map cache entries, which are a
>> disaster) but also in business terms, like how do you get an EID block
>> so you can actually take advantage of this new technology.
>>
>> RIRs are not effective organizations to be handing out EIDs to the new
>> kind of users that LISP is supposed to empower. You need godaddy-like
>> companies to want to do this. You might as well inch further away
>> from "pet project" by allowing one or more for-profit businesses to
>> gain experience allocating EIDs, and for the community to be able to
>> decide if it is a good or bad idea.
>>
>
> I though that LISPs users would be ISPs.
>
> And honestly, I do not how a business would have a profit allocating
> EIDs.
>
> Regards,
> as
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