On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Arturo Servin <[email protected]> wrote: > Possibly, but, would it be very different than when RIRs started > allocating IPv6?
It was free to members who already had IPv4. That is an important distinction. If the "LISP Experiment" only succeeds in issuing EID blocks to organizations that already have their own IP blocks and are already announcing to the DFZ, then IMO, it will not have been very successful. Why do you suppose I mention godaddy.com in my post? If you want a domain name, you can buy one. That's probably not a good way to issue IP addresses. On the other hand, if you want a "green browser-bar SSL certificate" they have additional identity and authority verification hoops for you to jump through. These steps are quite streamlined and are performed efficiently by SSL certificate authorities. My ideal world would allow someone to go get a "very small" block with about the same hoops as a $10/year dot-com registration, hopefully at a similar cost, and including a mapping service for xTRs to be able to find your EID-to-RLOC mapping. The MS relationship may be a tool for reduction of abusive registrations that will invariably happen if the bar to getting EID space is set very low. A larger organization might jump through the extra steps and cost required to get the green SSL certificate. Then they can have more address space, choose their own MS (maybe themself), and gain the capability to sub-divide their allocation. LISP is a pet project. Personally, it makes me want to scream every time someone talks to me about how great LISP is, or will be in the future. If you folks want it to grow out of the pet project stage anytime soon, then you should stop treating it like a pet project and start thinking about how to make it scale up effectively -- not just in technical terms (like negative map cache entries, which are a disaster) but also in business terms, like how do you get an EID block so you can actually take advantage of this new technology. RIRs are not effective organizations to be handing out EIDs to the new kind of users that LISP is supposed to empower. You need godaddy-like companies to want to do this. You might as well inch further away from "pet project" by allowing one or more for-profit businesses to gain experience allocating EIDs, and for the community to be able to decide if it is a good or bad idea. -- Jeff S Wheeler <[email protected]> Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts _______________________________________________ lisp mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp
