On 1 Nov. 2013, at 05:45 , Sander Steffann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>> I want to ask everyone on the list: Which facts prevent a scaling experiment 
>> with the aim of global production state? In my opinion a /16-EID-prefix is 
>> perfect for that goal.
> 
> The problem is in that what you describe depends on public PITRs, and we have 
> seen how badly that worked for 6to4 public relays. Running a public relay 
> costs money (equipment, maintenance, bandwidth), and when nobody pays for 
> them then we cannot expect any decent quality. And LISP will be blamed and 
> seen as an unreliable protocol, just like 6to4. Relying on public relays is a 
> very bad idea.

Hi Sander,

you are right. But IMHO this is one possible economic model.

What about third parties selling MR/MS services which include also PxTRs 
services?

Luigi


> 
> Now, if some big tier-1 transit networks start running production quality 
> PxTRs (because PxTRs attract traffic, and their customers pay for traffic) 
> then I can see some possibilities. If the LISP traffic volume increases then 
> other networks might also start running PxTRs so they don't have to pay their 
> transits for it, and then we are getting somewhere. But as long as 'public 
> PxTR' means 'someone with good intentions but no real responsibility' then 
> this will be a dangerous experiment for LISP...
> 
> Cheers,
> Sander
> 
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