On   Thu,   30   Jul   1998  18:23:12   -0700   "Ronald   F.   Guilmette"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If  you have  a defense  for  that which  I have  already stated  (here)
>appears to be indefensible,

This isn't a court Ronald, and you aren't the judge. You're just a person
who called  me names in  public without provocation  and who now  has the
nerve to insinuate that the only reason I do not wish to waste my time in
a flame  war is that  there is no  sensible explanation for  the LISTSERV
behaviour  you have  described.  Well, as  I said,  it  should be  fairly
obvious why you want to send  a "probe failed" message with MAIL FROM:<>,
in fact it  borders on self-evidence. I'm sure someone  else on this list
will post an  explanation if you really  can't figure it out  on your own
after making a *genuine* attempt (hint: what is the typical criterion for
auto-delete on a typical LISTSERV list?) It seems that my signoff request
needs to be approved by the list owner (?), but consider me gone.

>P.S. Why is  it that you folks  at lsoft have been unable  to remove the
>long-bouncing addresses  of subscribers to  your mailing lists  who have
>died and gone to heaven many months ago?

Perhaps  if you  would  provide specifics,  a  meaningful and  productive
discussion  could ensue,  but  that just  doesn't seem  to  be your  goal
tonight.  Without specifics,  I can  only make  guesses. Maybe  your mail
system has  so many "smart"  spam filters  that it doesn't  always return
bounces  to the  right address,  maybe it's  one of  the lists  where the
customer reloads a  whole new roster of subscribers from  a database they
maintain themselves  using their own methods  (typically web-only), maybe
LISTSERV is such  a piece of garbage that the  auto-delete mechanism just
never works  and the whole  auto-delete process  is secretly driven  by a
random number generator! Either way,  if you can provide more information
I will  be happy to  pass it on  to the people in  charge of the  list in
question.

  Eric

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