On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:39:29PM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> So do I.
> >[*] Lack of confirmation does not scale.
> 
> Baloney. But more on that later, too.

Fine.  I'll read it.  But understand me clearly: anything which allows
a third-party to subscribe to a mailing list without my *prior* consent,
i.e. which compels me to clean up the mess, is a spam-by-proxy tool.

In other words, if you have a mechanism which accomplishes what
confirmation does -- ensuring that I have in fact actually requested
to be subscribed *before* subscribing me -- then I'm all ears.  I'd
love to have alternatives.  But if it *doesn't* do that, then it's
ineffective and irresponsible, because it allows a malicious third
party to co-opt your mailing list(s) and others' mailing list(s)
to perform a mailbomb/spam-by-proxy/whatever-you-wish-to-call-it attack.

---Rsk
Rich Kulawiec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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