RE: ASP vs. CF

[Billy Cravens]

I agree, but in theory, if you’ve used one .NET language you’ve used them all J   Of course, this isn’t true – C# supports some features that languages like VB.NET don’t.   I think most of the criticisms about any technology are due to the paradigm shift involved.  If you think you’ll find a 1:1 correlation between CF and .NET, or J2EE, or Perl, or whatever, then you will be disappointed.  For example, a Java developer looking at CFC’s might say: “Where the heck is the constructor?  What a waste”  Just because something is different doesn’t mean it’s inferior (whoa – think about the socio-economic theses my last sentence could create – maybe harmony among programmers is the key to world peace?)   ************************** Billy Cravens Web and Software consulting www.Architechx.com   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ferguson, Ken Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: ASP vs. CF   To my way of thinking, if you have not used C# with ASP.NET then you have not really used .NET. Which CLR supported languages have you been using behind your apps? Why, specifically, are you displeased with .NET? I have heard this comment several times with virtually no supporting data. I've heard only very broad statements about why people think ASP is not as good as CF, but I've yet to receive a real, intelligible answer concerning specific complaints about ASP.NET.   I've worked quite a lot with ASP, CF, PHP and ASP.NET with C# and I find that you cannot say one is better than the other. It all depends on circumstances. It depends on the environment, the project's specific goals, the support staff's capabilities...   Check me out man, arguing a subject with which I'm completely fed up after midnight still at work. I hate to say it, but what a loser!!! I think the best course of action would be to chuck it all and go sailing!!!   Ferg   Quote of the day: "You drive a hard bargain Beeblebrox!" - Benji Mouse     -----Original Message----- From: Brian Bessemer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ASP vs. CF     > I like doing CF, ASP, and VB, but have a history in a lot.  I play with .NET in my spare time, but I am yet to be impressed.   Similar thoughts here. I do a good deal of CF and ASP, and I've played around with PHP and .NET. Personally, I am not at all impressed with ASP.NET (I couldn't tell you about C# or anything like that, as I have really only played around with ASP.NET and ADO.NET.) Maybe once MS decides exactly what it's supposed to be and let's the rest of the dev community in on the secret, I'll be willing to jump on board, but so far it doesn't seem that it can do anything that others mentioned cannot, and in the little I've played with it, it seems like what it can do takes a bit more code than plain-jane ASP (and there's less documentation readily available for it.)   As far as the differences between ASP and CF... I can only speak on my own experiences. I find CF, in general, is a much quicker environment to develop in, and offers far better debugging options than anything else I've used. I also like the option of coding in script or markup-style tags. I tend to be able to do the same tasks in CF with less code than in ASP, and I have run into a couple situations where I can do something in CF that I cannot in ASP. That being said, ASP definitely seems better at handling just about anything with files... whether you're reading text in from a flat file or moving or copying or deleting directories, sub-directories, etc., I have found ASP incredible.   On the PHP side, I've just started playing around with it. I definitely like it better than ASP.NET, but I'm having some difficulties with a couple of it's 'features.'