On 1/4/06, Joseph Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There're quite a bit of discussion on this with the Gundam Century translation Mark did, esp. on the Dom -> Rick Dom conversion (another proof for Dr. Core that Rick Dom existed back in 1980s). Different propulsion methods, life support system (air purification vs. air supply). A colony use MS probably would have a big oxygen supply like the space use MS, as it probably would have high risk to go in&out space a bit during combat. An Earth-bound counterpart, which wouldn't have to worry about supply ("... about supply much", if you consider underwater use for a land-based MS), would need probably a small oxygen tank for back up and that's it.
Another is heat dissipation, where colony/space-use couldn't rely on air/water cool to the environment.
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From: "John Costanzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Vanilla GM and Dom Re: [gundam] [OT] Tachikoma, Mirage, Batmobiles and more!
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:20:10 -0500
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> On 04/01/06, Dr. Core <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well there was that scene with Char's Gelgoog and Gyan in Texas (?)
> > colony. So Gelgoog can operate in 1-G and 1-atm envoirnment. Boy
> > what do you think about ground type Ball?
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> Does colony combat require the same specifications as ground combat?
> Space-type Zakus are seen in colonies, too, as well as just about
> every other space-type MS out there. I'm not saying the colonies don't
> have1atm/G, but it doesn't make sense to me that colony combat equals
> ground combat since if this was the case, all space type MS would be
> ground combat capable. The only explanation I can come up with is that
> space-type MS are capable of ground combat but not for prolonged
> periods of time. Either way, just because a Gelgoog - and a
> high-performance model at that - can perform combat inside a colony
> doesn't mean an average run-of-the-mill Gelgoog would be suitable for
> ground combat issue.
If I could hazard a guess, it would be that the primary difference between "ground" and "space" combat type models would be the difference in the way that the unit is built to withstand pressure. In space, the unit has to deal with vacuum, whereas a "ground" model would presumeably be spending a lot more of their time in an atmosphere (since afaik, the only "ground" area in the setting without an atmosphere is the Moon). Space models would presumeably be built to emphasize keeping the cockpit pressure in, while ground models would be built with more of an emphasis on keeping the pressure equalized - or possibly even allowing for limited underwater work (such as Shiro's riverbed trip in 08th MS Team). That's not to say that space models would completely ignore bracing for pressure from outside. Things like missile explosions are likely to require bracing from that direction as well. It's just that the amount of bracing in each direction would be different.
There would probably be other differences, such as an emphasis on whether or not gravity has an effect on the thrusters, and the expectations of any on-board software. But I would suspect that the primary difference between the two would be the way pressure is handled.
There're quite a bit of discussion on this with the Gundam Century translation Mark did, esp. on the Dom -> Rick Dom conversion (another proof for Dr. Core that Rick Dom existed back in 1980s). Different propulsion methods, life support system (air purification vs. air supply). A colony use MS probably would have a big oxygen supply like the space use MS, as it probably would have high risk to go in&out space a bit during combat. An Earth-bound counterpart, which wouldn't have to worry about supply ("... about supply much", if you consider underwater use for a land-based MS), would need probably a small oxygen tank for back up and that's it.
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Boaz
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