Chris Campbell wrote:

I think they are, because...well, there's just no point to fighting that way anymore. Our tech is sufficiently advanced that we do battle now in courts and the marketplace, leaving armed conflicts on any scale the last refuge of the desperate and the incompetant (nope, no comment on the current U.S. administration here, nosiree...). The use of force is sometimes warranted and advisable (the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11, for example), but apart from that...well, why? Why would we ever go to war with China? There's just no point. And why would China wage armed conflict on anyone? The whole country has historically been very insular, and I'm not seeing much reason why that would change (and ye gads, they're already managing more than a billion people; why take on the headache of the rest of the world?).


Because you think you can? Not a great reason, of course, but a common one for a would-be conqueror. Retaliation or punishment is still a valid and justifiable reason (in the court of public opinion) for going to war. And all the tech in the world won't allow you to physically take something (like land). You can shoot it, bomb it, burn it, etc., but you need some grunts with rifles to physically stand on it to claim it.

The more I see in life the more I realize that there's just no profit in large-scale armed conflict anymore. We have better things to do, and going to war costs a fortune. So why bother? Better to just buy out anything that bothers you, and let the undeveloped nations of the world continue to squabble amongst themselves. It isn't *right*, but I can't really see any reason why a developed nation would do any differently.


You sorely underestimate the two main reasons for going to war (not saying they're good reasons). First is the general Pride reason. As in some form of "you can't do that to us" or "we're not pussies and we'll prove it" or "we're better than they are" (hate dressed up as pride) or "if we can't be the leader then no one will be". Yes, no profit in it but that's not the point in risking your life or the lives of others in something that final and destructive, right? I mean to even agree to it is to be far beyond negotiations or risk assessment or rational thought. The other is the Divine reason. Meaning that you go to war for the good of those you are fighting against or because you believe it's the best thing for the world or because you think you have the right to. And only you are capable of pulling it off (don't want someone else doing the fighting because then you can't control it).

Now, those are reasons I'm giving for *starting* a war. It has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor or 9/11 in that those were both responses to attacks, basically "ok, assholes, you wanted a fight now you've got one". Very different and much more justified. Well, Afghanistan was justified but Iraq was not.



I don't know if I'd say I'm a fan, necessarily, but...well, it does lead to stability. The fight's gone out of Europe, Russia's bankrupt, China has its own problems to deal with, and the hot issues in the U.S. are political corruption, energy sources, and terrorism. If globalization is the price for a world without large-scale conflict, I can hardly call it a bad thing. We need to do better, mind, but even still we're heading in the right direction.

You confuse "for now" with "always". Always a new set of players, a new group of people who think the only way to make things fair is to kill for what they think is right. Always a new faction that can't win by the non-lethal rules in place so they say to hell with it, let's kill them for it. Or threaten to kill them for it but if they call our bluff we better actually be able to go to war or we'll never recover.





Alfred.

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