Gordon and all,
Gordon Cook makes a good point that has been made over and over again
Mike. What is the essence of the ICANN's authority? It is not even completely
constituted yet. The ICANN Interim Board presently really is not in any
position to be making any decisions or even set a process in which
decisions can be made appropriately as in its MoU agreement with the NTIA
has not yet been met, in that their is not decision or consensus on how
or what type of structure for a membership Organization may be formed.
Yet, it appears that you feel that you, the ICANN Interim Board, have the
authority to determine what process in which will be used to determine
what Accreditation requirements should be the standard, amongst
other areas. This seems on it's face both dictatorial, and in stark
disagreement with the requirements of the White Paper as well as the
NTIA/MoU. How do you justify this position Mike?
Gordon Cook wrote:
> >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 10-Feb-99 Mike Roberts wrote:
> >> > With respect to the rest of the email, you present a compelling
> >> > case for your vision of the future of the Internet name and
> >> > address system. However, it is your case and your opinion,
> >> > to which you are richly entitled in our democracy. Others
> >> > may have other views and reach other conclusions.
>
> who are these others, and why can't their conclusions stand the light of
> day? you assume that you have the god given right to be the only one to
> hear them.
>
> It seems
> >> > to me to be unreasonable for you to conclude, with a lot of
> >> > value laden adjectives, that those who may disagree with you
> >> > are less worthy of having their opinions heard in the councils
> >> > and public processes of ICANN. Gordon and others have been
> >> > critical of the SJ Mercury article quotation in which I said
> >> > that critics of ICANN needed to distinguish between being heard
> >> > and having their way. This is the essence of the kind of
> >> > republican democracy we have in the United States.
>
> Patrick greenwell:
>
> >
> >Another important compenent of a republican democracy is that we elect the
> >officials that are to serve our interests.
> >
> >Who elected you to serve?
> >
> >
>
> Gordon Cook: Bill and Pat make very sound points. lets bring up another
> issue Mike -- **authority**
>
> This is not the military nor even the Navy. The mind set in your comment
> above is military.... someone handed you the sword of command. You assume
> that authority over the rest of the net went with it.
>
> That is a mistaken assumption. right now ICANN has zero authority and when
> an entity with no authority starts pushing its weight around, that gives
> everyone problems. Where to you think your "authority" comes from? jon
> postel? did Jon appoint you his heir?
>
> there is another small point in this nations history.
>
> Icann has just announced a taxation plan that looks pretty open ended. Only
> problem is I don't see any representation.
>
> Icann will likely not have a protocols SO proposal anytime soon. Nor will
> it have an Address SO proposal anytime soon. Those systems are in place as
> John Curran pointed out in Reston... they are functioning very well thank
> you with out ICANN.
>
> That leaves domain names. It would be wonderfuilly ironic if your style
> Mike led the contending factions to coalesce around the Paris proposal and
> brought their own proposal to commerce for approval. where would ICANN be
> then. You are asking for millions a year to impose your will on the rest
> of the net. what makes you think you are entitled to it?
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> NOTE: Contempt in which ICANN PRES. MIKE ROBERTS holds rest of Internet:
> "Some of those people think the management [ICANN] should check with the
> public [the Communities of the Internet] every time they make a decision,
> which is crazy," Roberts said. "That's flat-out crazy." WIRED NEWS 2/4/99
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