William and all,

William X. Walsh wrote:

> Jeff, it is not our responsibility to get it, it is your responsibility to post
> it to the forums you claim to be representing your "members" on.

  We respectfully don't agree.

>
>
> It is YOUR responsbility to post it here.

  Our responsibility legally has bee fulfilled.  If it is specific information
that you request, it is YOUR responsibility to acquire it through channels
that are publicly available.  Any information that I or any of us would
provide would just be denied by you, so we are not entering into
your zero-sum game on YOUR rules.

>
>
> See, your claims about FOIA filings is just so much hot air.  Such requests
> will not result in any information, and then you will just say "Well, it isnt
> my fault you (or the agency filed with) couldn't find it. It is there."

  Not at all.  If you have prepared your filing correctly and done your
request properly, you should have little problem.  I personally have
several FOIA filings pending myself.

>
>
> That is BS and you know it.

  I know nothing of the sort.

>
>
> You are hiding it, and we all know why.

  I am hiding nothing.  You are making a false assumption without substantiation.
However you have made many such assumptions on these lists before, so
it is nothing unusual for you.

>
>
> It is such a simple thing, and you being unwilling to do it is the best proof
> you are a fraud.

  LOL!  You make me laugh WIlliam.  hahahahahahahohohohohoh!
ROFLMAO

>
>
> As you can tell, Jeff, I am not going away.  You have tried everything you can
> to stop me, but I'm like that tenacious pit bull, once it gets its fangs into
> you, it isn't about to let go.

  You flatter yourself much to much William.  If you want to be disgusting
and act as a little paranoid child, that is your own affair.

>
>
> I've backed you into a corner from which you cannot come out, and now everyone
> knows the truth about you.

  Well it must be a HUGE corner!  >;)

>
>
> I hope someone shows up for your fictional meeting, it might make a nice case
> for criminal fraud, since you posted the message with intentionally fraudulent
> information.

  Well come and see for yourself.  But leave your attitude at home, of face the
consequences of your actions.

>
>
> Any Dallas area people on the list willing to take the trip and file the
> criminal fraud complaint when Jeff's 25,000 people don't show up (as he claims
> are already preregistered)?
>
> On 10-Feb-99 jeff Williams wrote:
> >  William and all,
> >
> >  William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
> > > On 10-Feb-99 jeff Williams wrote:
> > > >  William and all,
> > > >
> > > >  William X. Walsh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But let me quote from you and apply it to this process :
> > > > >
> > > > >    "Company, group, or organization representatives, must have an
> > > > >    affidavit from their members to represent their respective
> > > > >    organizations, companies, and or ad-hoc groups.  Otherwise
> > > > >    they only will be considered representing themselves and
> > > > >    are not representative of any group, organization, company
> > > > >    or otherwise group."
> > > > >
> > > > > I now make this request of you.  Please provide said affidavit with
> > > > > verifiable
> > > > > contact information outside of your own phone number. I am sure of the
> > > > > 85,000
> > > > > members of INEG that one will consent to having their private number
> > > > > posted
> > > > > to
> > > > > prove your bona fides.
> > > >
> > > >    We have already filed our affidavit, and it can be obtained through
> > > >    the
> > > >  FOIA filing with the FEC should you so choose to do so as I have already
> > > >  posted some months ago now.  In addition a copy will be on display
> > > >  for anyone to VIEW upon arrival at the conference.
> > >
> > > Why am I not surprised that you would refuse to publicly post this
> > > information?
> >
> >    I already have.  So what is your problem?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > What are you hiding from Jeff?  According to recent emails from you to Mike
> > > Roberts and Esther and others, refusal to publicly post information means
> > > that
> > > they have something to hide, and that one with nothing to hide would
> > > readily
> > > act in public.
> >
> >    Hiding?  Excuse me?  Why are you afraid to follow a proper protocol
> >  procedure through a submission of an FOIA filing William?  To lazy,
> >  possibly?  If so that is YOUR perogative.  Not ours, or our concern.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting how you can make such claims on others, but when they are made
> > > on
> > > you....well, you are less than forthcoming.
> >
> >    No claim at all.  As is clearly stated that even the average 13 yrs old
> >  could
> >  understand you mearly need to file a FOIA to the proper authorities.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > BTW, per your own standard, until you provide such proof, you will be
> > > > > considered to be speaking for yourself only.
> > > >
> > > >    See above comment.
> > >
> > > So since you refuse to make this information available directly to the
> > > forums
> > > where you claim to be representing your members, you must be speaking only
> > > for
> > > yourself.
> >
> >    Not at all.  This may be YOUR misguided attitude or disruptive method
> >  of discourse, but it is none the less a false assertion on YOUR part.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > According to your own standards, this information must be made available to
> > > the
> > > forum where you are representing your organization, and yet you refuse to
> > > provide it.
> >
> >    It is and has been available for anyone, through an FOIA filing.  Get off
> >  your
> >  rump and prepare a proper filing.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are proving my points quite nicely for me.
> >
> >    Well, your rather disjointed opinion is your own affair, not ours.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 09-Feb-99
> > > Time: 22:59:23
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
> > > of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
> > > - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >  --
> >  Jeffrey A. Williams
> >  CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> >  Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> >  E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> >  Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 09-Feb-99
> Time: 23:49:41
> ----------------------------------
> "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
> of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
> - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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