William and all,

  No, we have been following the ISOC "Happenings" for several years,
as have I.  No poll was taken, but we have voted on the impact and
actions with respect to the ISOC, as well a forwards several of their
questionable actions, such as the incident yesterday with respect
to tie ISOC chapter in Israel whom is not CONTROLLING the .il ccTLD
for instance.

  BTW, our statement was not JUST in support of your comment... Contrary
to your fantasy's of our existence

William X. Walsh wrote:

> Did Gallup poll all INEGroup members for you to reach this "We" consensus, Jeff?
>
> I'd rather NOT have any messages in support of my statements than to have a
> message in support from a fictional person and company.
>
> On 16-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote:
> >  William and all,
> >
> >    We[INEGroup] and myself would have to agree completely with william
> >  on this point the ISOC record is clear and has been much less than stellar.
> >  They are a detriment to the stakeholder community on the whole.....
> >
> >  William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
> > > The ISOC track record with regards to this process has been horrendous.
> > >
> > > I have been involved long enough to see that clearly.  They have been an
> > > obstacle rather than a contributing factor.
> > >
> > > On 16-Mar-99 Greg Skinner wrote:
> > > >  Ronda Hauben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Greg I agree that there is a need for social issues to be
> > > > > discussed in a forum. Especially social issues about
> > > > > the Internet and its present and future development.
> > > >
> > > > > But the Internet Society, under the kind of political pressure
> > > > > it functions under, focuses on commercial issue, and the
> > > > > social issues are ignored or converted to mean how can
> > > > > we spread commercial interests agenda.
> > > >
> > > >  *sigh*
> > > >
> > > >  I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
> > > >
> > > >  I have read remarks from several ISOC members, on the ISOC members'
> > > >  discussion list, which can be accessed at
> > > >
> > > >  http://www.isoc.org/members/discuss
> > > >
> > > >  I believe that there are members who have a number of concerns, in
> > > >  addition to commercial concerns.
> > > >
> > > >  I would suggest that everyone who is interested read the ISOC members'
> > > >  comments on the ISTF, and judge for themselves.
> > > >
> > > >  --gregbo
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 16-Mar-99
> > > Time: 11:28:56
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
> > > of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
> > > - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >  --
> >  Jeffrey A. Williams
> >  CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> >  Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> >  E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> >  Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 16-Mar-99
> Time: 11:49:18
> ----------------------------------
> "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
> of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
> - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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